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a. who is they? lawyers? Federal judges? Manufacturer? or Federal judges and manufacturer togther? use of 'they' is creating ambiguity here
b. judge is made the agent of action, moreover 'from suffering further damages of an economic nature ' is very wordy - 'damages of an econmic nature' means 'economic damages'- use of such convoluted language makes this option incorrect.
c. similar to a, wrong use of they. also further damages being suffered is wrong. If the damages are further (in future, more than current) than how can they be 'being suffered' right now. being is continuous form, and is used wrongly here.
d. prevent whom? ambiguous use of them.
e. use of their here has a clear antecedent- lawyers. correct option.
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The Command subjunctive is used when the verb indicates a desire, intention, command, recommendation, request, resolution, or advice. It is also used along with such words as advisable, better, desirable, directive, essential, fitting, imperative, important, necessary, urge, urgent and vital etc
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"They" is ambiguous.

"Argue" should not be followed by a subjunctive.

Only E is correct.
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I was confused between B and E, but I finally selected B, thinking that E looses the information by making an active voice to passive voice. Please help how to avoid this trap(where more focus should be on actual meaning and where more focus should be on wordiness)
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I was confused between B and E, but I finally selected B, thinking that E looses the information by making an active voice to passive voice. Please help how to avoid this trap(where more focus should be on actual meaning and where more focus should be on wordiness)


Sorry, your query is not clear - the preference for E over B is not because of wordiness or original meaning.

B is wrong not because of wordiness or meaning, but because of faulty use of subjunctive. The verb "argue" is not a bossy verb, and hence the use of subjunctive "judge act immediately " is wrong - it is a grammatical error.

(If there is only one grammatically correct option, you have to select the same, irrespective of whether it maintains the meaning of the original sentence. Nowhere in the official guide is it stated that the correct option should have the same meaning as the original sentence. In case there are more than one gramatically correct options, then select the one that adheres to the meaning of the original sentence.)
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I was confused between B and E, but I finally selected B, thinking that E looses the information by making an active voice to passive voice. Please help how to avoid this trap(where more focus should be on actual meaning and where more focus should be on wordiness)


Sorry, your query is not clear - the preference for E over B is not because of wordiness or original meaning.

B is wrong not because of wordiness or meaning, but because of faulty use of subjunctive. The verb "argue" is not a bossy verb, and hence the use of subjunctive "judge act immediately " is wrong - it is a grammatical error.

(If there is only one grammatically correct option, you have to select the same, irrespective of whether it maintains the meaning of the original sentence. Nowhere in the official guide is it stated that the correct option should have the same meaning as the original sentence. In case there are more than one gramatically correct options, then select the one that adheres to the meaning of the original sentence.)



But your answer cleared my query for rejecting the wrong answer. :-D

1. I read one post in the discussion which also describes argue as bossy verb. However, I don't know what are the bossy verbs. I tried to search, but I did not understand anything except the sentence that imperative verbs are bossy verbs.

2. I know the usage of subjunctive verbs-- demand, dictate, insist, mandate, request, recommend, suggest stipulate(some are optional-- ask, beg, urge, prefer, desire, intend, order require).

But I have seen some posts on gmatclab, the post that sometimes subjunctive verbs does not act as subjunctive verbs.For instance--
A study conducted by researchers suggests that cat walk more in winter than in summer to keep its body warm. -- wrong

A study conducted by researchers suggests that cat walks more in winter than in summer to keep its body warm-- Correct

Because the study is not giving any suggestion so it should not be treated as subjunctive verb. Correct me if I am wrong.

I suggest him that he eat less to stay fit-- correct

2. I have read in one of your posts that two modifiers can not refer to the same noun if they are not connected by conjunction

The dog lying behind my house and black in color is sick. --correct

However,

A study conducted by researchers on cat suggests that.............

Modifier--on cat
and
conducted by researchers
modifies a study

But writing the below statement seems awkward to me, please help. I always struggle when same noun is modified by more than one modifier
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AR15J wrote:
I was confused between B and E, but I finally selected B, thinking that E looses the information by making an active voice to passive voice. Please help how to avoid this trap(where more focus should be on actual meaning and where more focus should be on wordiness)


Sorry, your query is not clear - the preference for E over B is not because of wordiness or original meaning.

B is wrong not because of wordiness or meaning, but because of faulty use of subjunctive. The verb "argue" is not a bossy verb, and hence the use of subjunctive "judge act immediately " is wrong - it is a grammatical error.

(If there is only one grammatically correct option, you have to select the same, irrespective of whether it maintains the meaning of the original sentence. Nowhere in the official guide is it stated that the correct option should have the same meaning as the original sentence. In case there are more than one gramatically correct options, then select the one that adheres to the meaning of the original sentence.)



But your answer cleared my query for rejecting the wrong answer. :-D

1. I read one post in the discussion which also describes argue as bossy verb. However, I don't know what are the bossy verbs. I tried to search, but I did not understand anything except the sentence that imperative verbs are bossy verbs.

2. I know the usage of subjunctive verbs-- demand, dictate, insist, mandate, request, recommend, suggest stipulate(some are optional-- ask, beg, urge, prefer, desire, intend, order require).

But I have seen some posts on gmatclab, the post that sometimes subjunctive verbs does not act as subjunctive verbs.For instance--
A study conducted by researchers suggests that cat walk more in winter than in summer to keep its body warm. -- wrong

A study conducted by researchers suggests that cat walks more in winter than in summer to keep its body warm-- Correct

Because the study is not giving any suggestion so it should not be treated as subjunctive verb. Correct me if I am wrong.

I suggest him that he eat less to stay fit-- correct

2. I have read in one of your posts that two modifiers can not refer to the same noun if they are not connected by conjunction

The dog lying behind my house and black in color is sick. --correct

However,

A study conducted by researchers on cat suggests that.............

Modifier--on cat
and
conducted by researchers
modifies a study

But writing the below statement seems awkward to me, please help. I always struggle when same noun is modified by more than one modifier


1. The term "bossy" is used in Manhattan SC guide to explain which kind of verbs are suitable for use of command subjunctive.

2. Very well explained. ("suggest" may or may not be bossy).

3. This is an exception of modifier touch rule. Manhattan SC guide lists the exceptions. The first one is as follows:
A mission critical modifier (again seems to be a Manhattan-coined term) may come in between a modifer and the noun it refers to. The latter modifer then modifes the entire noun+ first modifer. So in this case the modifier "on cat" modifies "A study conducted by researchers ", not just " A study". ("conducted by researchers" as usual modifies the noun it touches, i.e. "A study").
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isn't option E omitting the doer of action??

i have read that words that provide context should not be omitted or added to the original sentence.
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The doer of the action may not be mentioned in all passive voice sentences. For example, in a recent public rally, several slogans were raised against the Apex court. Here it is not mentioned who raised the slogans. Still, it is a complete sentence.
One more: Constitution demands that the wages be paid on skills rather than on gender, caste, color, or creed. Here there is no need to mention who pays the wages. Obviously, it is implied that wages are paid by those who employ the people.
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This question is part of the GMAT Club Sentence Correction : Pronoun Revision Project.

The lawyers for the patent holder pressed the federal judge to impose an injunction against the hardware manufacturer, arguing that they should take immediate action in order to prevent further economic damages against their client.

A. they should take immediate action in order to prevent further economic damages against their client
'They' and 'Them' are ambigous

B. the judge act immediately in order to prevent the client from suffering further damages of an economic nature
Economic damages to damages of economic nature. .Option is unecessarily wordy.

C. they should act immediately to prevent further economic damages being suffered by the client
'They' is ambigious

D. the judge act immediately in order to prevent them from suffering economic damages further
Correct answer

E. immediate action should be taken to prevent their client from suffering further economic damages
Correct choice.
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The lawyers for the patent holder pressed the federal judge to impose an injunction against the hardware manufacturer, arguing that they should take immediate action in order to prevent further economic damages against their client.


A. they should take immediate action in order to prevent further economic damages against their client

B. the judge act immediately in order to prevent the client from suffering further damages of an economic nature

C. they should act immediately to prevent further economic damages being suffered by the client

D. the judge act immediately in order to prevent them from suffering economic damages further

E. immediate action should be taken to prevent their client from suffering further economic damages


This question is part of the GMAT Club Sentence Correction : Pronoun Revision Project.




A. they should take immediate action in order to prevent further economic damages against their client - Wrong: Meaning issue due to pronoun "they"

B. the judge act immediately in order to prevent the client from suffering further damages of an economic nature - Wrong: No subjunctive needed 2) Wordy

C. they should act immediately to prevent further economic damages being suffered by the client - Wrong: Meaning issue due to pronoun "they" 2) Incorrect usage of "being"

D. the judge act immediately in order to prevent them from suffering economic damages further - Wrong: No subjunctive needed 2) Meaning issue due to pronoun "them"

E. immediate action should be taken to prevent their client from suffering further economic damages - Correct: "their" refers to "lawyers".
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Shouldn't passive voice be avoided when the rest of the non-underlined part is in active voice? Or is this one of those "use this rule only when you're left with 2 answer choices with no grammatical errors"? If it's the later case, can you please provide me a link where I can find all those rules that should be my secondary considerations while attempting a question?

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Shouldn't passive voice be avoided when the rest of the non-underlined part is in active voice? Or is this one of those "use this rule only when you're left with 2 answer choices with no grammatical errors"? If it's the later case, can you please provide me a link where I can find all those rules that should be my secondary considerations while attempting a question?

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I can't recall an official question with an answer that should be ruled out because the passive voiced was used, even as a 'last split of two choices' kind of thing. That's one of those 'SAT hang ups' that doesn't really apply to the GMAT.

Check the link in my signature for the 'getting started on verbal' study kit, and watch the SC videos there. Start trying to discuss SC in the way it is discussed in those videos.
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Shouldn't passive voice be avoided when the rest of the non-underlined part is in active voice? Or is this one of those "use this rule only when you're left with 2 answer choices with no grammatical errors"? If it's the later case, can you please provide me a link where I can find all those rules that should be my secondary considerations while attempting a question?

Thanks a lot


Hello SUV0508,

We hope this finds you well.

To answer your query, no such rule regarding passive voice exists.

The only thing to keep in mind regarding the passive voice on GMAT is that the use of the passive voice is considered less concise.

We hope this helps.
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