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Re: The most comprehensive resume book I have ever seen [#permalink] New post 22 Jul 2008, 15:14
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I haven't looked at this closely (just taking a break at work), but there's clearly a difference in styles & theme between the US and international resumes. International students hoping to get a job in the US need to learn to target their resumes better. If anyone is interested, take a look at the 2-page resume (CV actually, which explains some of the difference) starting on p.50. I hate to be harsh, but these two pages have zero value in a job hunt in the US, and probably anywhere else for that matter.

1. He uses 1/3 of the first page to list his name and address
2. He uses a chunk of the second page to list language skills in some unknown (to me at least) format
3. He uses 1/2 of the first page listing his school experiences back to elementary school (!?!?), yet doesn't provide a single useful tidbit
4. He spends a full page listing the positions he's held, yet doesn't say a single word about what he did, what he learned or how he contributed

A resume needs to include points that grab interest, and prompt people reading it to want to learn more and ask questions. The only thing on these entire two pages with any value at all is his job as a crepe maker, which should be valuable for about 45 seconds of conversation. Other than that, the entire thing is completely forgettable. I'm shocked that his career office would let something like this come out, but ultimately each person is responsible for themselves. Tragic really. There isn't enough content here to merit 1/2 page, let alone two pages.
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Re: The most comprehensive resume book I have ever seen [#permalink] New post 22 Jul 2008, 15:26
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Oh, I don't know if anyone else noticed, but I think this is a conference for business school leaders. It struck me that two Darden attendees were the class president from last year and this year; and it seems that many attendees were leaders from their schools.
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Re: The most comprehensive resume book I have ever seen [#permalink] New post 22 Jul 2008, 19:21
Not to pile on here, but what about pg 7.

Champion in Fear Factor 08/2006, USA
* Physical Competition


That's actually pretty cool.


P&G Skill Seminar 04/2007, Denmark
* How to Ace an Interview and Writing an Outstanding CV


Did he take this seminar or was he the lecturer for it?


Driving License B

No comment.
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Re: The most comprehensive resume book I have ever seen [#permalink] New post 22 Jul 2008, 19:28
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As easy as it may be to criticize some of these resumes, I think it actually provides a good chance for us all to evaluate our own resume, and as Peli noted, make sure we are actually conveying the skills we have, not just the titles we have held...

Some of these are just a laundry list of titles, test scores, and dates. I think it serves as a good reminder on what actually matters... (hint: not that stuff for the most part)

The book certainly has some impressive people, but there are certainly some of those resumes that provide examples of what not to do.

By the way, naturallight, so you are saying I should take my driver license accomplishment off my resume? :wink:

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Re: The most comprehensive resume book I have ever seen [#permalink] New post 22 Jul 2008, 22:27
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Driving License B

No comment.

Hey, that driver's test is hard! I'm just glad I hit the 80/80 split on my road and written sections.
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Re: The most comprehensive resume book I have ever seen [#permalink] New post 22 Jul 2008, 23:44
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Yes, there are many differences between US and European resumes. And there also are differences between resumes from European countries. Btw, it's called CV in UK & Ireland.
Pictures, marital status and number of children with their age, driving licence, 2 pages are standard in some countries.
A few years ago I was applying for internship in the UK. At 20 of age I did not have much to put, but was advised by a British friend to write a 2 page resume anyway. 1 page resume looks as if I had not done much.
You wouldn't put a personal statement on a French or German resume, but you would on a British one. Also, there is a lot more text about details of responbilities and achievements on an American resumes. In Germany, you would normally sign your resume (this is disappearing though as most resumes aren't sent by post anymore), etc...
In short: tailor your resume for the country you applying in.

I am not sure what this book is for. Maybe these students are not even looking for jobs in the US. This book may be used for giving information on participants of a conference for instance.
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Re: The most comprehensive resume book I have ever seen [#permalink] New post 22 Jul 2008, 23:52
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One more thing: different does not necessarily means inferior. I say that because of the jokes and comments made on foreign resumes.
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Re: The most comprehensive resume book I have ever seen [#permalink] New post 23 Jul 2008, 02:27
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I think 2 pages is OK if you need the space. For example, HBS' limit is 2 pages on the application. Why wouldn't they just say 1 page if that's what they wanted>
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Re: The most comprehensive resume book I have ever seen [#permalink] New post 23 Jul 2008, 05:33
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Some of these resumes are not that good (listing titles, etc.), and make a good case for the what not to do. But I agree with Lumone. In Europe, employers sometimes require a picture, marital status, etc. There is absolutely nothing funny about it. If anything, this CV book provides a good insight on how to approach the cultural differences between the countries. I would guess that these dudes are somehow achievers in their countries, so maybe that's the way to go where they are from...

On another note, many Europeans also are weirded out by US resumes. In France for example, where people are pretty conservative about their achievements, US resumes often look cocky and arrogant :wink: , as everyone seems to have been a VP/manager out of college, and saved the world from poverty, financial crisis and the return of the pterodactiles...
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Re: The most comprehensive resume book I have ever seen [#permalink] New post 23 Jul 2008, 05:52
CerealsMBA> I believe that you're from France (so am I ;) ). Congrats on your Chicago admit!
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Re: The most comprehensive resume book I have ever seen [#permalink] New post 23 Jul 2008, 06:10
Thanks! I am actually not a French Citizen, but I went through the French education system, went to college in France and worked there for a while (I basically spent there the last 10 years of my life) ... So, to a certain extent, even though I am in the US now, France is home ;)

Let me know if you have any questions about applying with a French profile, I'd be glad to help!
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Re: The most comprehensive resume book I have ever seen [#permalink] New post 23 Jul 2008, 13:11
Anyone notice the guy who got a 99% percentile rank in the AWA section of the GMAT?

Funny, I thought the highest score you could get was 6/6 which corresponds to a 81% percentile rank.

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Re: The most comprehensive resume book I have ever seen [#permalink] New post 23 Jul 2008, 13:15
Umm...I had a 5.5 in January and that was 83%ile. A 6.0 can certainly not be 81%ile - but point taken, it can't be 99%ile either.

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Anyone notice the guy who got a 99% percentile rank in the AWA section of the GMAT?

Funny, I thought the highest score you could get was 6/6 which corresponds to a 81% percentile rank.

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Re: The most comprehensive resume book I have ever seen [#permalink] New post 23 Jul 2008, 13:27
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Anyone notice the guy who got a 99% percentile rank in the AWA section of the GMAT?

Funny, I thought the highest score you could get was 6/6 which corresponds to a 81% percentile rank.

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6/6 was 95th percentile as of last year. It may have gone down a bit since, but its gotta be at least 93 or so still.
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Re: The most comprehensive resume book I have ever seen [#permalink] New post 23 Jul 2008, 14:47
I got a 6.0 on my AWA about 3 weeks ago, and it was 87%-tile.
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Re: The most comprehensive resume book I have ever seen [#permalink] New post 23 Jul 2008, 19:14
6.0 AWA came to 89th percentile when I took my GMAT in April 2008.
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Re: The most comprehensive resume book I have ever seen [#permalink] New post 23 Jul 2008, 20:37
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6.0 AWA came to 89th percentile when I took my GMAT in April 2008.


it was around 89th percentile also when I took the GMAT in Jan 2008.
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Re: The most comprehensive resume book I have ever seen [#permalink] New post 23 Jul 2008, 20:39
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As easy as it may be to criticize some of these resumes, I think it actually provides a good chance for us all to evaluate our own resume, and as Peli noted, make sure we are actually conveying the skills we have, not just the titles we have held...

Some of these are just a laundry list of titles, test scores, and dates. I think it serves as a good reminder on what actually matters... (hint: not that stuff for the most part)

The book certainly has some impressive people, but there are certainly some of those resumes that provide examples of what not to do.

By the way, naturallight, so you are saying I should take my driver license accomplishment off my resume? :wink:

~Sam


It's also interesting to see the different writing styles used to describe similar positions - goes to show how even though folks have the same title, their actual functions can vary :)
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Re: The most comprehensive resume book I have ever seen [#permalink] New post 23 Jul 2008, 22:15
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Anyone notice the guy who got a 99% percentile rank in the AWA section of the GMAT?

Funny, I thought the highest score you could get was 6/6 which corresponds to a 81% percentile rank.

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Who cares about AWA?!?
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Re: The most comprehensive resume book I have ever seen [#permalink] New post 24 Jul 2008, 14:27
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Anyone notice the guy who got a 99% percentile rank in the AWA section of the GMAT?

Funny, I thought the highest score you could get was 6/6 which corresponds to a 81% percentile rank.

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Who cares about AWA?!?


That's what makes it all the more funny!

I just took the GMAT 5 weeks ago and a 6.0 was equal to 89% percentile.

I'm guessing this guy decided to report his AWA (only God knows why), then decided that a high-80s/low-90s percentile rank wasn't that impressive, so he decided to give himself a 99% percentile rank.

Classy!

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