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# The NCIED was then, as it is now, the first and most

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The NCIED was then, as it is now, the first and most successful national organization solely
dedicated to developing American Indian economic self-sufficiency through business ownership.

A. then, as it is now, the first and most successful
B. first and most successful as a
C. then first and now the most successful
D. the first, and remains the most successful,
E. the first and still the most successful

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14 Nov 2012, 04:13
A. then, as it is now, the first and most successful:------ looks like this is the best.
B. first and most successful as a --- significantly missing the point that it is even today so’
C. then first and now the most successful ---meaning distorted; implies that it was not the most successful then.
D. the first, and remains the most successful,: If there is a comma after successful. It is utterly wrong.
E. the first and still the most successful; ---- It might weirdly mean that the NCIED is successful despite that it was the first.

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14 Nov 2012, 21:19
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The NCIED was then, as it is now, the first and most successful national organization solely
dedicated to developing American Indian economic self-sufficiency through business ownership.

A. then, as it is now, the first and most successful
B. first and most successful as a
C. then first and now the most successful
D. the first, and remains the most successful,
E. the first and still the most successful

OA..........

I would rather choose E.

A. then, as it is now, the first and most successful implies that the organization was then the first and now also the first. I feel that the first will remain the first; there is absolutely no need of repeating that he is now also the first. ex- Neil Armstrong was the first human to land on Moon. No matter how many humans now land on Moon, Neil will remain forever the first human to land on Moon.
B. first and most successful as a "THE" is missing. It is a must in this case.
C. then first and now the most successful "then first" implies that at the previous moment it was the "first" organization to have bla bla but now some other organization have replaced it.
D. the first, and remains the most successful, It undermines the second part "remains the most successful"
E. the first and still the most successful Correct.
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14 Nov 2012, 23:25
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gmatbull wrote:
The NCIED was then, as it is now, the first and most successful national organization solely
dedicated to developing American Indian economic self-sufficiency through business ownership.

A. then, as it is now, the first and most successful
B. first and most successful as a
C. then first and now the most successful
D. the first, and remains the most successful,
E. the first and still the most successful

OA..........

I would rather choose E.

A. then, as it is now, the first and most successful implies that the organization was then the first and now also the first. I feel that the first will remain the first; there is absolutely no need of repeating that he is now also the first. ex- Neil Armstrong was the first human to land on Moon. No matter how many humans now land on Moon, Neil will remain forever the first human to land on Moon.
B. first and most successful as a "THE" is missing. It is a must in this case.
C. then first and now the most successful "then first" implies that at the previous moment it was the "first" organization to have bla bla but now some other organization have replaced it.
D. the first, and remains the most successful, It undermines the second part "remains the most successful"
E. the first and still the most successful Correct.
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Hello ->
I think there is an issue in E.
See the verb "was" that applies to 2nd half also I guess.
So the sentence wud read-> was the first and was still the most successful

And why "the" is must the option B? can you pls let me know?
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15 Nov 2012, 01:03
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Marcab wrote:
gmatbull wrote:
The NCIED was then, as it is now, the first and most successful national organization solely
dedicated to developing American Indian economic self-sufficiency through business ownership.

A. then, as it is now, the first and most successful
B. first and most successful as a
C. then first and now the most successful
D. the first, and remains the most successful,
E. the first and still the most successful

OA..........

I would rather choose E.

A. then, as it is now, the first and most successful implies that the organization was then the first and now also the first. I feel that the first will remain the first; there is absolutely no need of repeating that he is now also the first. ex- Neil Armstrong was the first human to land on Moon. No matter how many humans now land on Moon, Neil will remain forever the first human to land on Moon.
B. first and most successful as a "THE" is missing. It is a must in this case.
C. then first and now the most successful "then first" implies that at the previous moment it was the "first" organization to have bla bla but now some other organization have replaced it.
D. the first, and remains the most successful, It undermines the second part "remains the most successful"
E. the first and still the most successful Correct.
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Hello ->
I think there is an issue in E.
See the verb "was" that applies to 2nd half also I guess.
So the sentence wud read-> was the first and was still the most successful

And why "the" is must the option B? can you pls let me know?

Hey ssup...?
Even if the sentence reads "...was the first and was still the most successful", then what? The logic of the sentence is " Even if THE organization was the first and was still the most successful bla bla..."; in other words, "Despite the fact THE organization was the first one, it was still the most successful"
Now try reading without the "THE" in the above explanation, you will come to know why "THE" is necessary.
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15 Nov 2012, 02:05
Hi Marcab

I also went on to choose D, but yes Jp has rightly stated, the second part deals with the issue at present time, hence how can we use was for it. We must use "IS"
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15 Nov 2012, 02:45
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IMO still is playing the role of contrast.
"Despite the fact that NCIED was the first among others, it was the most successfull of them all".
I hope I am making myself clear.
But let us get the OA from BULL.
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15 Nov 2012, 19:27
Sentence seems good to me. It's important that any changes still convey that the NCIED was both the first organization if its kind and has always been the most successful. So eliminate B and C. A is pretty good. D is fine, but A unncessary, so terminate it. E is out for sounding silly. A it is.
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16 Nov 2012, 03:09
I agree with Marcab. There is no point repeating "First" as it is implied.

Will go with E.
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16 Nov 2012, 03:26
The NCIED was

D. the first, and remains the most successful,
E. the first and still the most successful

national organization solely dedicated to developing American Indian economic self-sufficiency through business ownership.
How is D different from E both in grammar and context?
OA is
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D
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I think
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A
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16 Nov 2012, 03:43

Where has this question come from?
It is much better to get the explanation from an Instructor, rather than now drive away explanations from the OA provided.
By posting the answers later, GMATBULL you are doing a wonderful work. Keep it up.
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