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The Olympic Games helped to keep peace among the pugnacious states of the Greek world in that a sacred truce was proclaimed during the festival’s month.

(A) world in that a sacred truce was proclaimed during the festival’s month
(B) world, proclaiming a sacred truce during the festival’s month
(C) world when they proclaimed a sacred truce for the festival month
(D) world, for a sacred truce was proclaimed during the month of the festival
(E) world by proclamation of a sacred truce that was for the month of the festival
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Re: Olympic games [#permalink] New post 16 Sep 2008, 10:49
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OA is D

A and B have festival's month where month of the festival would be preferrable. C uses when E also has an ambiguous construction.


are you sure about this point that prepositional phrase "month of the festival" would always be preferred to the possessive form "festival's month"? that would be really interesting if you were correct.
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Re: Olympic games [#permalink] New post 16 Sep 2008, 13:27
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OA is D

A and B have festival's month where month of the festival would be preferrable. C uses when E also has an ambiguous construction.


are you sure about this point that prepositional phrase "month of the festival" would always be preferred to the possessive form "festival's month"? that would be really interesting if you were correct.

Not always tarek but try to avoid the possesive case, specially where possesive case is used for non human things. In GMAT land, they dont like possesives.
Essentially that is the only problem with A
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Re: Olympic games [#permalink] New post 16 Sep 2008, 15:06
Ans should be D.
Sentence A is only correct if it is of the form ".......in that,". Punctuation marks are the life of Grammar and their presence or absence(when necessary) can change the meaning.
Even with the comma, A does not sound very proper.
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The Olympic Games helped to keep peace among the pugnacious [#permalink] New post 30 May 2009, 01:16
The Olympic Games helped to keep peace among the pugnacious states of the Greek world in that a sacred truce was proclaimed during the festivals month.

A. world in that a sacred truce was proclaimed during the festivals month

B. world, proclaiming a sacred truce during the festivals month

C. world when they proclaimed a sacred truce for the festival month

D. world, for a sacred truce was proclaimed during the month of the festival

E. world by proclamation of a sacred truce that was for the month of the festival
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Re: Olympic Games [#permalink] New post 30 May 2009, 16:14
The Olympic Games helped to keep peace among the pugnacious states of the Greek world in that a sacred truce was proclaimed during the festivals month.

A. world in that a sacred truce was proclaimed during the festivals month

B. world, proclaiming a sacred truce during the festivals month

C. world when they proclaimed a sacred truce for the festival month

D. world, for a sacred truce was proclaimed during the month of the festival

E. world by proclamation of a sacred truce that was for the month of the festival

OA - C. I see now why.

A "in that a" - wrong, awkward
B Changes the meaning and/or ambiguity "proclaiming the truce during the festivals month"
C Same as B
E Suggestion that the proclamation was made by the Olympic Games.
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Re: Olympic Games [#permalink] New post 30 May 2009, 21:20
Does "they" refer to Olympic games in C?

A,B - Incorrect possesive of festivals month or number..

D - passive and change the meaning.. replace 'for' with 'because' and you will see what I mean..

E - is again incorrect.. as if truce was for a month.. What does it mean?
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Re: Olympic Games [#permalink] New post 30 May 2009, 22:30
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The Olympic Games helped to keep peace among the pugnacious states of the Greek world in that a sacred truce was proclaimed during the festivals month.

A. world in that a sacred truce was proclaimed during the festivals month

B. world, proclaiming a sacred truce during the festivals month

C. world when they proclaimed a sacred truce for the festival month

D. world, for a sacred truce was proclaimed during the month of the festival

E. world by proclamation of a sacred truce that was for the month of the festival

OA - C. I see now why.

A "in that a" - wrong, awkward
B Changes the meaning and/or ambiguity "proclaiming the truce during the festivals month"
C Same as B
E Suggestion that the proclamation was made by the Olympic Games.


Hi, Please recheck the OA, this is question no. 51 in OG 11 and the OA is D

'They' in option C is ambigious, possibly referring to the states or the games. Option D correctly uses the conjunction 'for' to join the two clauses.
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The Olympic Games helped to keep peace among the pugnacious [#permalink] New post 27 Oct 2009, 08:25
The Olympic Games helped to keep peace among the pugnacious states of the Greek world in that a sacred truce was proclaimed during the festival’s month.


(A) world in that a sacred truce was proclaimed during the festival’s month
(B) world, proclaiming a sacred truce during the festival’s month
(C) world when they proclaimed a sacred truce for the festival month
(D) world, for a sacred truce was proclaimed during the month of the festival
(E) world by proclamation of a sacred truce that was for the month of the festival

A and D are passive so out ,E is wordy and proclamation is ackward here ,but which out of B and C ,Elaborate ...
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Re: The Olympic Games [#permalink] New post 03 Nov 2009, 13:11
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The Olympic Games helped to keep peace among the pugnacious states of the Greek world in that a sacred truce was proclaimed during the festival’s month.
A QUESTION TYPE WHERE MERELY GRAMMAR DOESNOT SUFFICE,UNDERSTANDING THE
INTENTION OF THE QUESTION BECOMES NECESSARY..AND ITS THE MOST DANGEROUS FORM OF SC QUESTION.THE SENTENCE IS TRYING TO STATE THAT THE PPROOF THAT OLYMPIC GAMES HELPED TO KEEP PEACE WAS THE FACT THAT A PEACE TREATY WAS SIGNED.NO CAUSE EFFECT IS MEANT HERE.
(A) world in that a sacred truce was proclaimed during the festival’s month
FESTIVALS'S MONTH sounds unidimatic.MONTH OF FESTIVAL is a better usage
(B) world, proclaiming a sacred truce during the festival’s month
OLYMPIC GAMES CANNOT PROCLAIM ANYTHING
(C) world when they proclaimed a sacred truce for the festival month
FOR HE FESTIVAL MONTH is unidiomatic expression
should be DURING THE MONTH OF THE FESTIVAL
(D) world, for a sacred truce was proclaimed during the month of the festival
CORRECT
(E) world by proclamation of a sacred truce that was for the month of the festival
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(A) world in that a sacred truce was proclaimed during the festival’s month
Festival’s month is awkward
(B) world, proclaiming a sacred truce during the festival’s month
Festival’s month is awkward. A little ambiguous who is proclaiming is it the Olympic games or the greek world.
(C) world when they proclaimed a sacred truce for the festival month
Ambiguous pronoun “they”. If it were referring to the greek world it should be “it”.
(D) world, for a sacred truce was proclaimed during the month of the festival
Correct – removes ambiguity and is idiomatic.
(E) world by proclamation of a sacred truce that was for the month of the festival
Wordy and awkward

sacmanitin – As a general rule active is preferred over passive but I wouldn’t rule something out only on the fact that it is passive.
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Re: The Olympic Games [#permalink] New post 08 Nov 2009, 07:42
It is not advisable to remove an answer only because it is passive. Looking other options. Only if you find a better answer, then only discard the passive construction.
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Re: The Olympic Games [#permalink] New post 15 Nov 2009, 21:17
OA is D. Check out OG12. It is an official Q.

Even if you do not like the sound of D, this is how I would eliminate my options.

A. 'in that' is too formalized
B. is wrong. "proclaiming" here means that the Olympic Games here is doing the 'proclaiming'
c. "they" has no referent.
e. similar to B. Means that the Olympic Games did the proclamation.

Leaves D.

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Re: OG 11 - SC # 51 [#permalink] New post 20 Apr 2010, 19:05
D is the answer
Refer to http://www.urch.com/forums/gmat-sentenc ... mes-2.html for more explanation from Bob...
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Confused with the present participle use. [#permalink] New post 21 Sep 2010, 22:58
Hi All,


Why is answer B incorrect here.

When the participle is separated from the independent clause (IC),

It should modify the subject or the verb of the IC ,or it should mention the result of the preceding

IC. If that is true then How B is incorrect here. Please explain. Isn’t “proclaiming” clearly

modifying “Olympics” here? Can by any chance "proclaiming" refer to the "states"? Am I missing here something?

OG says it is not clear that who would be doing the proclaiming.Members/Experts,could you please explain this in

detail?


The Olympic Games helped to keep peace among the
pugnacious states of the Greek world in that a sacred
truce was proclaimed during the festival’s month.

(A) world in that a sacred truce was proclaimed
during the festival’s month

(B) world, proclaiming a sacred truce during the
festival’s month

(C) world when they proclaimed a sacred truce for
the festival month

(D) world, for a sacred truce was proclaimed during
the month of the festival

(E) world by proclamation of a sacred truce that
was for the month of the festival

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Re: Confused with the present participle use. [#permalink] New post 21 Sep 2010, 23:15
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Re: Confused with the present participle use. [#permalink] New post 22 Sep 2010, 00:14
I think B is incorrect because proclaiming may also refers to the olympic games. D seems best.
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Re: Confused with the present participle use. [#permalink] New post 22 Sep 2010, 01:34
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I can see why you are getting confused, but just to make sure you understand one thing about the participle
whenever you see a participle separated by a comma then it is an adverb and it is modifying the preceding clause
now, for the participle to be correct:1) It has to make sense with subject(meaning that the subject can do the action, which is portrayed by the participle. 2) It has to modify the verb in the preceding clause in other way make sense with the preceding clause.
for your example: The Olympic Games(subject of the preceding clause) CANNOT do the action of proclaiming only humans can, therefore it is illogical to use the participle in this context.
if you look closely the right answer is passive meaning whoever is responsible for that action is not mentioned in the subject or not important by using the passive we can eliminate any ambiguity about action doer.
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Re: Confused with the present participle use. [#permalink] New post 22 Sep 2010, 08:37
Another thing.See the usage "festival month is absurd right"? whereas during
the month of the festival better.
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The Olympic Games helped to keep peace among the pugnacious [#permalink] New post 01 Oct 2010, 20:04
The Olympic Games helped to keep peace among the
pugnacious states of the Greek world in that a sacred
truce was proclaimed during the festival’s month
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(A) world in that a sacred truce was proclaimed
during the festival’s month
(B) world, proclaiming a sacred truce during the
festival’s month
(C) world when they proclaimed a sacred truce for
the festival month
(D) world, for a sacred truce was proclaimed during
the month of the festival
(E) world by proclamation of a sacred truce that
was for the month of the festival
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Re: SC questions [#permalink] New post 01 Oct 2010, 23:32
Not B because the sentence doesn't make sense and it can be inferred from the sentence that "world proclaimed a sacred truce during the festival’s month".

I think this is not what sentence mean.
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