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The Olympic Games helped to keep peace among the pugnacious states of the Greek world in that a sacred truce was proclaimed during the festival’s month.

(A) world in that a sacred truce was proclaimed during the festival’s month
(B) world, proclaiming a sacred truce during the festival’s month
(C) world when they proclaimed a sacred truce for the festival month
(D) world, for a sacred truce was proclaimed during the month of the festival
(E) world by proclamation of a sacred truce that was for the month of the festival
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Re: SC - Olympics [#permalink] New post 12 May 2008, 20:35
doesn't "for" change the meaning ? for seems to be used in place of "because" here - do you guys think its the correct way to use it ?
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Re: SC - Olympics [#permalink] New post 12 May 2008, 20:45
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doesn't "for" change the meaning ? for seems to be used in place of "because" here - do you guys think its the correct way to use it ?


"For, since, in that, because" have somewhat the same meaning. there is a very little difference in the way they are used!
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Re: SC - Olympics [#permalink] New post 12 May 2008, 20:51
Really ?
How about this sentence :
"Peter bought a flower for Mary" Does this imply Peter bought a flower "because of" Mary ??

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doesn't "for" change the meaning ? for seems to be used in place of "because" here - do you guys think its the correct way to use it ?


"For, since, in that, because" have somewhat the same meaning. there is a very little difference in the way they are used!
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Re: SC - Olympics [#permalink] New post 12 May 2008, 20:54
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Really ?
How about this sentence :
"Peter bought a flower for Mary" Does this imply Peter bought a flower "because of" Mary ??

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bsd_lover wrote:
doesn't "for" change the meaning ? for seems to be used in place of "because" here - do you guys think its the correct way to use it ?


"For, since, in that, because" have somewhat the same meaning. there is a very little difference in the way they are used!


1. I saw you "offline", but your posts seem alot. you are intangible? :lol:
2. "for" in your sentence is "prep", but "for" in the question is "conjuntion"
3. wait me for a while, I dig my file to see where it is, post here for you! :lol:
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Re: SC - Olympics [#permalink] New post 12 May 2008, 21:04
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As, Since, Because, For, and In that

All four of these words can be used to refer to the reason for something. They are not used in the same way.

1. as and since:

As and since are used when the reason is already known to the listener/reader, or when it is not the most important part of the sentence. As - and since - clauses often come at the beginning of sentences. often come at the beginning of sentences.

As it's raining again, we'll have to stay at home.
Since he had not paid his bill, his electricity was cut off.

As - and since - clauses are relatively formal; in an informal style, the same ideas are often expressed with so.
It's raining again, so we'll have to stay at home.

2. because:

Because puts more emphasis on the reason, and most often introduces new information which is not known to the listener/reader.
Because I was ill for six months, I lost my job.

When the reason is the most important part of the sentence, the because - clause usually comes at the end. It can also stand alone. Since and as cannot be used like this.
Why am I leaving? I'm leaving because I'm fed up ! (NOT..... I'm leaving as/since I'm fed up!)
"Why are you laughing? " "Because you look so funny".

A because - clause can be used at the end of a sentence to say how one knows something can be used at the end of a sentence to say how one knows something.
You didn't tell me the truth, because I found the money in your room. ( = .... I know because I found....)

3. for

For introduces new information, but suggests that the reason is given as an afterthought. A for - clause could almost be in brackets. For - clauses never come at the beginning of sentences, and cannot stand alone never come at the beginning of sentences, and cannot stand alone. For, used in this sense, is most common in a formal written style.
I decided to stop and have lunch - for I was feeling hungry.
4. in that

used after a statement to begin to explain in what way it is true
I've been lucky in that I have never had to worry about money.
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Re: SC - Olympics [#permalink] New post 12 May 2008, 21:32
Cant be C.. as they refers to either the pugnacious states or the olympic games. That was my initial answer while solving the OG.

I think it should be D. bsd ,this is an OG 11 question my memory does remind me the official answer is D.

In A:- in that" = because....but as per OG it is "obselete" usage.
In B:-proclaiming a sacred truce during the festival's month , they did not continously proclaim
In C:-when they proclaimed a sacred truce for the festival month , they does not have an unambiguous refferent
In E:-by proclamation of a sacred truce that was for the month of the festival

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Re: SC - Olympics [#permalink] New post 12 May 2008, 23:13
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Oh really ? In that case I got it right and the OA in gmatter is wrong. the OA I have is C...

What is the Questions number in OG ?

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edit - FOUND IT !!! its OG #51 --> http://www.manhattangmat.com/forums/og-sc-51-t693.html

YAY .. my SC ability rating rises :)


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51. The Olympic Games helped to keep peace among the pugnacious states of the Greek world in that a sacred truce was proclaimed during the festival's month.
(A) world in that a sacred truce was proclaimed during the festival's month
(B) world, proclaiming a sacred truce during the festival's month
(C) world when they proclaimed a sacred truce for the festival month
(D) world, for a sacred truce was proclaimed during the month of the festival
(E) world by proclamation of a sacred truce that was for the month of the festival

Idiom + Rhetorical construction
This sentence depends on using the correct conjunction to join two independent clauses. In that is a conjunction that means inasmuch as; because in that has largely gone out of use, it is considered stilted and overly formal. It also uses two words when one would do. In this sentence, the second clause explains the first one, so the conjunction for, meaning because, is the most appropriate choice for joining the two independent clauses of the compound sentence.
A In that is stilted and overly formal
B It is not clear who would be doing the proclaiming, a clause is preferable to a phrase here
C They is ambiguous, possibly referring to either the states or the Games
D Correct. In this sentence, the conjunction for joins the two clauses correctly and economically.
E Wordy and awkward construction

The correct answer is D.
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The Olympic Games helped to keep peace among the pugnacious [#permalink] New post 20 Jun 2008, 05:00
The Olympic Games helped to keep peace among the pugnacious states of the Greek world in that a sacred truce was proclaimed during the festival’s month.

(A) world in that a sacred truce was proclaimed during the festival’s month
(B) world, proclaiming a sacred truce during the festival’s month
(C) world when they proclaimed a sacred truce for the festival month
(D) world, for a sacred truce was proclaimed during the month of the festival
(E) world by proclamation of a sacred truce that was for the month of the festival
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Re: SC-Olympic Games [#permalink] New post 20 Jun 2008, 06:57
(A) world in that a sacred truce was proclaimed during the festival’s month
Festival cannot possess month, so "festival’s month" is incorrect.

(B) world, proclaiming a sacred truce during the festival’s month
Festival cannot possess month, so "festival’s month" is incorrect.

(C) world when they proclaimed a sacred truce for the festival month
"They" is ambigous (Games or States).

(D) world, for a sacred truce was proclaimed during the month of the festival
Seems OK.

(E) world by proclamation of a sacred truce that was for the month of the festival
Awkward construction.

This is OG11 question # 51. Check there to get alternative explanation.
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Re: SC-Olympic Games [#permalink] New post 20 Jun 2008, 07:08
In some circumstances "festival" can posses "month".

"October is the festival's month of origin."

I think this is a rather odd sentence and if I were editing someone's writing I would suggest that he/she rephrase the sentence, but it is correct as written, and festival does posses month.

I agree that D is the answer.
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Re: SC-Olympic Games [#permalink] New post 20 Jun 2008, 07:44
The Olympic Games helped to keep peace among the pugnacious states of the Greek world in that a sacred truce was proclaimed during the festival’s month.

(A) world in that a sacred truce was proclaimed during the festival’s month - passive...
(B) world, proclaiming a sacred truce during the festival’s month -correct
(C) world when they proclaimed a sacred truce for the festival month- meaning not proper
(D) world, for a sacred truce was proclaimed during the month of the festival -passive..
(E) world by proclamation of a sacred truce that was for the month of the festival- pretty awkward...
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Olympic games [#permalink] New post 16 Aug 2008, 21:53
1. The Olympic Games helped to keep peace among the pugnacious states of the Greek world in that a sacred truce was proclaimed during the festival’s month.

(A) world in that a sacred truce was proclaimed during the festival’s month

(B) world, proclaiming a sacred truce during the festival’s month

(C) world when they proclaimed a sacred truce for the festival month

(D) world, for a sacred truce was proclaimed during the month of the festival

(E) world by proclamation of a sacred truce that was for the month of the festival
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Re: Olympic games [#permalink] New post 17 Aug 2008, 03:36
I will use POE. C is out because of "they". D- is wrong, that "for" sounds bad. B- out, I don't think that any kind of games could make a proclamation. Between A and E: each sounds good. I chose A because it specify that the sacred truce was for the entire greek world. What is OA?
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Re: Olympic games [#permalink] New post 17 Aug 2008, 22:50
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1. The Olympic Games helped to keep peace among the pugnacious states of the Greek world in that a sacred truce was proclaimed during the festival’s month.

(A) world in that a sacred truce was proclaimed during the festival’s month

(B) world, proclaiming a sacred truce during the festival’s month

(C) world when they proclaimed a sacred truce for the festival month

(D) world, for a sacred truce was proclaimed during the month of the festival

(E) world by proclamation of a sacred truce that was for the month of the festival


IMO D
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Re: Olympic games [#permalink] New post 18 Aug 2008, 01:31
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1. The Olympic Games helped to keep peace among the pugnacious states of the Greek world in that a sacred truce was proclaimed during the festival’s month.

(A) world in that a sacred truce was proclaimed during the festival’s month

(B) world, proclaiming a sacred truce during the festival’s month

(C) world when they proclaimed a sacred truce for the festival month

(D) world, for a sacred truce was proclaimed during the month of the festival

(E) world by proclamation of a sacred truce that was for the month of the festival


Dont find anything wrong with A)
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Re: Olympic games [#permalink] New post 18 Aug 2008, 06:02
hibloom wrote:
1. The Olympic Games helped to keep peace among the pugnacious states of the Greek world in that a sacred truce was proclaimed during the festival’s month.

(A) world in that a sacred truce was proclaimed during the festival’s month

(B) world, proclaiming a sacred truce during the festival’s month

(C) world when they proclaimed a sacred truce for the festival month

(D) world, for a sacred truce was proclaimed during the month of the festival -> not connected sentence

(E) world by proclamation of a sacred truce that was for the month of the festival -> IMO Answer


IMO E
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Re: Olympic games [#permalink] New post 18 Aug 2008, 06:29
IMO A

1. The Olympic Games helped to keep peace among the pugnacious states of the Greek world in that a sacred truce was proclaimed during the festival’s month.

(A) world in that a sacred truce was proclaimed during the festival’s month

(B) world, proclaiming a sacred truce during the festival’s month

was the world proclaiming a scred truce???

(C) world when they proclaimed a sacred truce for the festival month
They refers to States or games itself?

(D) world, for a sacred truce was proclaimed during the month of the festival
Comma should be replaced by a semi collen....2 independent sentences need to be separated by ';'
(E) world by proclamation of a sacred truce that was for the month of the festival
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Thanks for sharing. The Olympic Games helped to keep peace [#permalink] New post 15 Sep 2008, 17:36
Thanks for sharing.

The Olympic Games helped to keep peace among the pugnacious states of the Greek world in that a sacred truce was proclaimed during the festival’s month.

(A) world in that a sacred truce was proclaimed during the festival’s month
(B) world, proclaiming a sacred truce during the festival’s month
(C) world when they proclaimed a sacred truce for the festival month
(D) world, for a sacred truce was proclaimed during the month of the festival
(E) world by proclamation of a sacred truce that was for the month of the festival
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Re: SC - Olympic Games [#permalink] New post 15 Sep 2008, 23:09
At first i thought the answer was D. BUt then, figured the "proclamation" is not the reason for keeping peace among the nations, instead, the proclamation is supposed to describe the peaceful nature of the nations for the month.
Therefore, the answer should be B.
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Re: SC - Olympic Games [#permalink] New post 16 Sep 2008, 05:19
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Thanks for sharing.

The Olympic Games helped to keep peace among the pugnacious states of the Greek world in that a sacred truce was proclaimed during the festival’s month.

(A) world in that a sacred truce was proclaimed during the festival’s month
"in that" suggests "how." Although this is not grammatically wrong, the use of "was proclaimed" is passive. Once you compare it to option B, you will instantly forget about A.

(B) world, proclaiming a sacred truce during the festival’s month
The present participle "proclaiming" shows the effect or "how" regarding the main clause. It says the same thing as A does, but option b is more active while option A is passive. This option is CORRECT.

(C) world when they proclaimed a sacred truce for the festival month
It messes around with the ordering of the action. This option makes it sound like the "proclaimed" first took place before the "help" came in. This is wrong.

(D) world, for a sacred truce was proclaimed during the month of the festival
"for a" means "because." The causal relationship is reversed. Same what option C did.

(E) world by proclamation of a sacred truce that was for the month of the festival
The part that I underlined is passive and wordy.
Also, "was" is a linking verb that links together only nouns or nouns with an adjective. This linking is wrong because it's linking truce to a preposition "for". A better option would be to use the verb "lasted for" rather than the linking verb "is."





I choose B as well. Please look at my explanation above
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