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The Organization of Petroleum Exporting Countries (OPEC) had long been expected to announce a reduction in output to bolster sagging oil prices, but officials of the organization just recently announced that the group will pare daily production by 1.5 million barrels by the beginning of next year, but only if non-OPEC nations, including Norway, Mexico, and Russia, were to trim output by a total of 500,000 barrels a day.

A.year, but only if non-OPEC nations, including Norway, Mexico, and Russia, were to trim output
B.year, but only if the output of non-OPEC nations, which includes Norway, Mexico, and Russia, is trimmed
C.year only if the output of non-OPEC nations, including Norway, Mexico, and Russia, would be trimmed
D.year only if non-OPEC nations, which includes Norway, Mexico, and Russia, were trimming output
E.year only if non-OPEC nations, including Norway, Mexico, and Russia, trim output

POE:
1. use but or only if, otherwise using both will create redundant error.
so option A & B are out.
2. in if ... then(then is hidden in this structure) construction:
if..(followed by)simple present tense ---------------> then ....(followed by) either simple present or simple future
and vice versa is also true.
here then(hidden) is followed by simple future so if should be followed by simple present!!

Option C : the group will pare daily production .... if non-OPEC nations ..would be trimmed (break the rule)
Option D : the group will pare daily production .... if non-OPEC nations ..were trimming output(also break the rule)
Option E : the group will pare daily production .... if non-OPEC nations ..trim output



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26. The Organization of Petroleum Exporting Countries (OPEC) had long been expected to announce a reduction in output to bolster sagging oil prices, but officials of the organization just recently announced that the group will pare daily production by 1.5 million barrels by the beginning of next year, but only if non-OPEC nations, including Norway, Mexico, and Russia, were to trim output by a total of 500,000 barrels a day.

A.year, but only if non-OPEC nations, including Norway, Mexico, and Russia, were to trim output
B.year, but only if the output of non-OPEC nations, which includes Norway, Mexico, and Russia, is trimmed
C.year only if the output of non-OPEC nations, including Norway, Mexico, and Russia, would be trimmed
D.year only if non-OPEC nations, which includes Norway, Mexico, and Russia, were trimming output
E.year only if non-OPEC nations, including Norway, Mexico, and Russia, trim output


In option B and D
nations, which includes Norway, Mexico, and Russia
I think includes is incorrect . The correct verb should be include . Am I right?
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26. The Organization of Petroleum Exporting Countries (OPEC) had long been expected to announce a reduction in output to bolster sagging oil prices, but officials of the organization just recently announced that the group will pare daily production by 1.5 million barrels by the beginning of next year, but only if non-OPEC nations, including Norway, Mexico, and Russia, were to trim output by a total of 500,000 barrels a day.

A.year, but only if non-OPEC nations, including Norway, Mexico, and Russia, were to trim output
B.year, but only if the output of non-OPEC nations, which includes Norway, Mexico, and Russia, is trimmed
C.year only if the output of non-OPEC nations, including Norway, Mexico, and Russia, would be trimmed
D.year only if non-OPEC nations, which includes Norway, Mexico, and Russia, were trimming output
E.year only if non-OPEC nations, including Norway, Mexico, and Russia, trim output


Tense..

All options but E have some other tense but simple present. Therefore, only E works, since it has "trim".
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HIMALAYA wrote:
i guess this is a good question.

A/B are out since they are run-on.
C is in passive and D is unclear.
E is direct and clear.


Can you please explain how A and B are run on ?


I also have the same doubt. How are these two sentences run-on?

Two independent clauses can be connected by FANBOYS and these two sentences are connected by "BUT". So I thought they are perfectly fine from this perspective. Can some one please explain why these are run-on sentences?
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The Organization of Petroleum Exporting Countries (OPEC) had long been expected to announce a reduction in output to bolster sagging oil prices, but officials of the organization just recently announced that the group will pare daily production by 1.5 million barrels by the beginning of next year, but only if non-OPEC nations, including Norway, Mexico, and Russia, were to trim output by a total of 500,000 barrels a day

A. year, but only if non-OPEC nations, including Norway, Mexico, and Russia, were to trim output
B. year, but only if the output of non-OPEC nations, which includes Norway, Mexico, and Russia, is trimmed
C. year only if the output of non-OPEC nations, including Norway, Mexico, and Russia, would be trimmed
D. year only if non-OPEC nations, which includes Norway, Mexico, and Russia, were trimming output
E. year only if non-OPEC nations, including Norway, Mexico, and Russia, trim output

As per the explanation given by OG, option B and C are wrong because of passive voice in the underlined portion doesn't state who would trim the prices.

As per my understanding of the meaning, it is not necessary to know the doer of trimming. So I would not have eliminated B and C on the grounds of meaning.

Instructor, please help me understand if option B and C distort the meaning.

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OA : E

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Have the same doubt as Mission2012 has above
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The Organization of Petroleum Exporting Countries (OPEC) had long been expected to announce a reduction in output to bolster sagging oil prices, but officials of the organization just recently announced that the group will pare daily production by 1.5 million barrels by the beginning of next year, but only if non-OPEC nations, including Norway, Mexico, and Russia, were to trim output by a total of 500,000 barrels a day

A. year, but only if non-OPEC nations, including Norway, Mexico, and Russia, were to trim output
B. year, but only if the output of non-OPEC nations, which includes Norway, Mexico, and Russia, is trimmed
C. year only if the output of non-OPEC nations, including Norway, Mexico, and Russia, would be trimmed
D. year only if non-OPEC nations, which includes Norway, Mexico, and Russia, were trimming output
E. year only if non-OPEC nations, including Norway, Mexico, and Russia, trim output

As per the explanation given by OG, option B and C are wrong because of passive voice in the underlined portion doesn't state who would trim the prices.

As per my understanding of the meaning, it is not necessary to know the doer of trimming. So I would not have eliminated B and C on the grounds of meaning.

Instructor, please help me understand if option B and C distort the meaning.

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OA : E


Hi @Mission2012,

Thank you for articulating your question so well. Such good question posts help us identify the gaps in your understanding and that in turn helps you figure out where exactly you are going on.

Let's figure out what is happening with this question.

What is the meaning of the sentence?
Normally I would ask you to tell me the meaning of the sentence but in the essence of time let me give that to you:

The Organization of Petroleum Exporting Countries (OPEC) had long been expected to announce a reduction in output to bolster sagging oil prices, but officials of the organization just recently announced that the group will pare daily production by 1.5 million barrels by the beginning of next year, but only if non-OPEC nations, including Norway, Mexico, and Russia, were to trim output by a total of 500,000 barrels a day.

1: The OPEC was expected to announce reduction in output in order to increase sagging oil prices.
2: But it announced that it will reduce the production to a certain degree only if the non-OPEC nations trimmed their output as well.

So as you can see the action of OPEC nations is contingent upon the action taken by the non-OPEC nations. So clearly the action of trimming of output by a total of 500,000 barrels a day is something for which we need to explicitly know who the doer is. Just by saying that "the output of non-OPEC nations should be trimmed" does not tell us who actually will do this trimming.

I hope this explains why Choices B and C are incorrect.
So in a nutshell, it is very important to understand what the original sentence intends to communicate and then ensure that the correct choice maintains that meaning.

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Although Opec had long been expected to announce reduction in output to bolster sagging oil prices, OPEC officials announced that they will reduce daily production by 1.5 million barrels by the beginning of next year. The condition for this reduction is that non-OPEC nations, including N,M and R trim their output by a total of 500,000 barrels per day

Error Analysis
Usage of “But” and “Only if” is redundant. Also the conditional tense usage If “present tense- Non Opec Were to trim-use of infinitive” then Future “OPEC Will pare” is not parallel. If”Present” Then “Future” is the correct structure. The use of infinitive is not parallel to verb.

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A.year, but only if non-OPEC nations, including Norway, Mexico, and Russia, were to trim output-Explained in error analysis
B.year, but only if the output of non-OPEC nations, which includes Norway, Mexico, and Russia, is trimmed- Redundancy error
C.year only if the output of non-OPEC nations, including Norway, Mexico, and Russia, would be trimmed- Verb Tense error If”Would be trimmed” then”Will pare”. Will pare requires present tense in IF construction
D.year only if non-OPEC nations, which includes Norway, Mexico, and Russia, were trimming output- Same as C
E.year only if non-OPEC nations, including Norway, Mexico, and Russia, trim output- Correct Choice
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The Organization of Petroleum Exporting Countries (OPEC)
had long been expected
to announce a reduction in output to bolster sagging oil prices, but
officials of the organization just recently announced that

the group will pare [Future]
daily production by 1.5 million barrels by the beginning of next year,
but only if
non-OPEC nations, including Norway, Mexico, and Russia,
were to trim output
by a total of 500,000 barrels a day.

A.year, but only if non-OPEC nations, including Norway, Mexico, and Russia, were to trim output [but / only if , both together not req.; were with will doesn't sound correct.]
B.year, but only if the output of non-OPEC nations, which includes Norway, Mexico, and Russia, is trimmed [but & only if together not req. Who will trim??]
C.year only if the output of non-OPEC nations, including Norway, Mexico, and Russia, would be trimmed [who will trim? as per original sentence nON needs to do that]
D.year only if non-OPEC nations, which includes Norway, Mexico, and Russia, were trimming output [were trimming with will doesn't sound correct.]
E.year only if non-OPEC nations, including Norway, Mexico, and Russia, trim output [Correct]

Conditional Sentence:
I will go only if he asks me- A and B out.
The group will pare dp only if nON trim output.
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The Organization of Petroleum Exporting Countries (OPEC) had long been expected to announce a reduction in output to bolster sagging oil prices, but officials of the organization just recently announced that the group will pare daily production by 1.5 million barrels by the beginning of next year, but only if non-OPEC nations, including Norway, Mexico, and Russia, were to trim output by a total of 500,000 barrels a day.

bold parts are clear wrong choices for sentence...but only is missing not only (Not X, But Y). A and B out.
C. would be trimmed is not certain which make the meaning somewhat unclear.
D. non-OPEC nations inclues norway, mexico and russia no its more than that, also were trimming is an action ongoing Wrong.
E. clear if non-OPEC nations....trim output then OPEC will do something.

Best Choice: E





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26. The Organization of Petroleum Exporting Countries (OPEC) had long been expected to announce a reduction in output to bolster sagging oil prices, but officials of the organization just recently announced that the group will pare daily production by 1.5 million barrels by the beginning of next year, but only if non-OPEC nations, including Norway, Mexico, and Russia, were to trim output by a total of 500,000 barrels a day.

A.year, but only if non-OPEC nations, including Norway, Mexico, and Russia, were to trim output
B.year, but only if the output of non-OPEC nations, which includes Norway, Mexico, and Russia, is trimmed
C.year only if the output of non-OPEC nations, including Norway, Mexico, and Russia, would be trimmed
D.year only if non-OPEC nations, which includes Norway, Mexico, and Russia, were trimming output
E.year only if non-OPEC nations, including Norway, Mexico, and Russia, trim output
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The right form is : if non-OPEC nations trim output, the group will pare daily production.
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26. The Organization of Petroleum Exporting Countries (OPEC) had long been expected to announce a reduction in output to bolster sagging oil prices, but officials of the organization just recently announced that the group will pare daily production by 1.5 million barrels by the beginning of next year, but only if non-OPEC nations, including Norway, Mexico, and Russia, were to trim output by a total of 500,000 barrels a day.

A.year, but only if non-OPEC nations, including Norway, Mexico, and Russia, were to trim output
B.year, but only if the output of non-OPEC nations, which includes Norway, Mexico, and Russia, is trimmed
C.year only if the output of non-OPEC nations, including Norway, Mexico, and Russia, would be trimmed
D.year only if non-OPEC nations, which includes Norway, Mexico, and Russia, were trimming output
E.year only if non-OPEC nations, including Norway, Mexico, and Russia, trim output



It is 'if .... then ....' construction.

Then clause is in future tense (will). In such case, if clause should be either in simple present tense or simple future tense.

Hence, if trim, then group will pare daily production (option E) is a right choice!
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this has an if-then conjunctive verb usage .

Since , "Then" - outcome is explained using simple future (will pare) - explaining certainty , the "if" clause should use simple present tense.


hence , trim

Choice E
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26. The Organization of Petroleum Exporting Countries (OPEC) had long been expected to announce a reduction in output to bolster sagging oil prices, but officials of the organization just recently announced that the group will pare daily production by 1.5 million barrels by the beginning of next year, but only if non-OPEC nations, including Norway, Mexico, and Russia, were to trim output by a total of 500,000 barrels a day.

A.year, but only if non-OPEC nations, including Norway, Mexico, and Russia, were to trim output
B.year, but only if the output of non-OPEC nations, which includes Norway, Mexico, and Russia, is trimmed
C.year only if the output of non-OPEC nations, including Norway, Mexico, and Russia, would be trimmed
D.year only if non-OPEC nations, which includes Norway, Mexico, and Russia, were trimming output
E.year only if non-OPEC nations, including Norway, Mexico, and Russia, trim output


Can, please, someone explain such thing:
In original sentence we have part officials of the organization just recently announced that and as I understand word announced is a sign of reported speech and we should use one step back in the tense.
Originally it was: "if non-OPEC nations, including Norway, Mexico, and Russia, trim output, the group will..."
And in reported speech it should be: "if non-OPEC nations, including Norway, Mexico, and Russia, trimmed output, the group would..."

Where is problem in my logic?
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I heard that A is wrong because the word "were" is in past tense and using past tense for something that is yet to happend is illogical. So does that mean this sentence"If Jake were to fill the tank by tomorrow, we'll make the trip" is incorrect because i've heard it used often
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26. The Organization of Petroleum Exporting Countries (OPEC) had long been expected to announce a reduction in output to bolster sagging oil prices, but officials of the organization just recently announced that the group will pare daily production by 1.5 million barrels by the beginning of next year, but only if non-OPEC nations, including Norway, Mexico, and Russia, were to trim output by a total of 500,000 barrels a day.

A.year, but only if non-OPEC nations, including Norway, Mexico, and Russia, were to trim output
B.year, but only if the output of non-OPEC nations, which includes Norway, Mexico, and Russia, is trimmed
C.year only if the output of non-OPEC nations, including Norway, Mexico, and Russia, would be trimmed
D.year only if non-OPEC nations, which includes Norway, Mexico, and Russia, were trimming output
E.year only if non-OPEC nations, including Norway, Mexico, and Russia, trim output


Can, please, someone explain such thing:
In original sentence we have part officials of the organization just recently announced that and as I understand word announced is a sign of reported speech and we should use one step back in the tense.
Originally it was: "if non-OPEC nations, including Norway, Mexico, and Russia, trim output, the group will..."
And in reported speech it should be: "if non-OPEC nations, including Norway, Mexico, and Russia, trimmed output, the group would..."

Where is problem in my logic?


Hi, I think the problem here is in the If...Then construction. When using the simple future tense, the “if part” needs to be stated using the simple present tense.
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Hi experts/ chetan2u,

I was stuck between C and E, opted for wrong option (C) as I thought here we need subjunctive mood (If....Then clause)

Whats wrong with C. Has it been eliminated because of wordiness.??
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Hi experts/ chetan2u,

I was stuck between C and E, opted for wrong option (C) as I thought here we need subjunctive mood (If....Then clause)

Whats wrong with C. Has it been eliminated because of wordiness.??



hi ,
there are three possiblities of if clause...
1)
type------------- if-clause ---------- main clause
1----------- Simple Present---------- will-future
2----------- Simple Past--------- would + infinitive
3----------- Past Perfect--------- would + have + past participle

so "would will never come in IF CLAUSE..
and that is exactly what C is doing...
.year only if the output of non-OPEC nations, including Norway, Mexico, and Russia, would be trimmed..

the sentence follows :-
1----------- Simple Present---------- will-future

hope it clears the air around if then clause
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though, "would be trimmed" is wrong in option C, the other issue with option C is that its changing meaning "year only if the output of non-OPEC nations would be trimmed" it says that if the output of x would b trimmed? who gonna trimmed? OPEC nations or someone else

where as the right option says that: .year only if non-OPEC nations trim output" its clear in meaning
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