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The paradox of the Roman empire’s history is marked by the fall of the western part around the 5th centaury A.D with several regions succumbing to cross border terrorism and internal insurgency, breaking into independent kingdoms, the rise of the eastern part, with the empire fire-walling the crises, and retaking most of the lost territories to establish a firm rule of over most of the Eastern Europe for another six to seven centuries

(A) with several regions succumbing to cross border terrorism and internal insurgency, breaking into independent kingdoms, the rise of the eastern part, with the empire fire - walling the crises, and retaking

(B) as several regions succumbed to cross border terrorism and internal insurgency and broke into independent kingdoms, and the rising of the eastern part as the empire fire-walled the crises and retook

C) when several regions succumbed to cross border terrorism and internal insurgency and broke into independent kingdoms, and by the rise of the eastern part, where the empire fire-walled the crises to retake
(D) with several regions succumbing to cross border terrorism and internal insurgency and breaking into independent kingdoms, and by the rise of the eastern part, with the empire fire -walling the crises, and retaking

(E) amid several regions succumbing to cross border terrorism and internal insurgency broke into independent kingdoms, and by the rise of the eastern part, as the empire fire -walling the crises, retook

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Re: The Rise and fall of Roman Empire [#permalink] New post 19 Oct 2010, 08:07
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The paradox of the Roman empire’s history is marked by the fall of the western part around the 5th centaury A.D with several regions succumbing to cross border terrorism and internal insurgency, breaking into independent kingdoms, the rise of the eastern part, with the empire fire-walling the crises, and retaking most of the lost territories to establish a firm rule of over most of the Eastern Europe for another six to seven centuries

(A) with several regions succumbing to cross border terrorism and internal insurgency, breaking into independent kingdoms, the rise of the eastern part, with the empire fire - walling the crises, and retaking

(B) as several regions succumbed to cross border terrorism and internal insurgency and broke into independent kingdoms, and the rising of the eastern part as the empire fire-walled the crises and retook

C) when several regions succumbed to cross border terrorism and internal insurgency and broke into independent kingdoms, and by the rise of the eastern part, where the empire fire-walled the crises to retake
(D) with several regions succumbing to cross border terrorism and internal insurgency and breaking into independent kingdoms, and by the rise of the eastern part, with the empire fire -walling the crises, and retaking

(E) amid several regions succumbing to cross border terrorism and internal insurgency broke into independent kingdoms, and by the rise of the eastern part, as the empire fire -walling the crises, retook

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Rate this problem? One of the best questions on Sc I have come across. A ver challenging one. I deserve a kudo if I get it right and you deserve another for coming up with a brilliant question.
Basically I think the use of "with" is incorrect in this context because the relative pronoun "when" is more appropriate for describing an event. On the basis of this, I eliminate answer choices A and D.
E is incorrect because the entire sentence, other than having a faulty parallelism, sounds really awkward.
It all comes down between C and D.
I will go for C because the sentence is talking about the fall in the western part and the rise in the easten part. The use of "by" correctly maintains parallelism.
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Re: The Rise and fall of Roman Empire [#permalink] New post 19 Oct 2010, 09:55
Difficult one, I would rate it in 600-700 level.

My pick is C, because "....5th century A.D., when" is correct.
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Is C indeed parallel, going by the construction in both parts of the underlined portion?
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Is C indeed parallel, going by the construction in both parts of the u8nderlined portion?


If C.

The paradox [strike]of the Roman empire’s history[/strike] is marked by the fall of the western part around the 5th centaury A.D, when several regions succumbed to cross border terrorism and internal insurgency and broke into independent kingdoms, and by the rise of the eastern part, where the empire fire-walled the crises to retake most of the lost territories to establish a firm rule of over most of the Eastern Europe for another six to seven centuries
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I like C as well for parallelism, but this problem took me over 2 minutes.

Any tips on how you can solve this kind of question quickly?
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(A) with several regions succumbing to cross border terrorism and internal insurgency, breaking into independent kingdoms, the rise of the eastern part, with the empire fire - walling the crises, and retaking
Unparallel; no - by - before the rise

(B) as several regions succumbed to cross border terrorism and internal insurgency and broke into independent kingdoms, and the rising of the eastern part as the empire fire-walled the crises and retook
Unparallel; no - by - before the rise

C) when several regions succumbed to cross border terrorism and internal insurgency and broke into independent kingdoms, and by the rise of the eastern part, where the empire fire-walled the crises to retake

-several regions succumbed…… and broke- is not parallel to - empire fire-walled the crises to retake – The first part is using two simple past tenses namely succumbed and broke while the latter is using a simple past and an infinitive – fire-walled and to retake. IMO, this error downgrades C

(D) with several regions succumbing to cross border terrorism
and internal insurgency and breaking into independent kingdoms, and by the rise of the eastern part, with the empire fire -walling the crises, and retaking

The prepositional phrase - with several regions succumbing to cross border terrorism and internal insurgency and breaking into independent kingdoms – is perfectly matched by an equally parallel - with the empire fire -walling the crises, and retaking - both parts using present participles with vantag
This is why this is the OA.

(E) Amid several regions succumbing to cross border terrorism and internal insurgency broke into independent kingdoms, and by the rise of the eastern part, as the empire fire -walling the crises, retook
Structurally flawed and fragmented without conjunction

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Re: The Rise and fall of Roman Empire [#permalink] New post 20 Oct 2010, 16:52
May I know what is the source of the question. IMO this does not look very GMAT like.
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This is my personal creation. Incidentally, what exactly is GMAT like question?
Is there any central authority who decides what is GMAT like and what is not? Or is it left to individuals to perceive?
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Re: The Rise and fall of Roman Empire [#permalink] New post 21 Oct 2010, 12:48
I eliminated B,C,D cause the first part of the sentence has 2 'AND' is a row, which is quite unnatural.

The most logical way to set this sentence is

The paradox of the Roman empire’s history is marked by the fall of the western part *Details* and by the rise of Easter Empire *Details".

A didn't have this pattern, while E had.

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Re: The Rise and fall of Roman Empire [#permalink] New post 22 Oct 2010, 03:20
can anybody explain why the ans is E not C. I thought it is C. I guess everyone has fallen in the trap of word 'when' and parallelism.
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Re: The Rise and fall of Roman Empire [#permalink] New post 22 Oct 2010, 03:42
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niraj92: Sorry it is my mistake. I had entered the official answer as E. It is indeed D.
i have explained why the answer is not C in my posting
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Re: The Rise and fall of Roman Empire [#permalink] New post 25 Sep 2011, 07:08
A very good parallelism question.

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Re: The paradox of the Roman empires history is marked by the [#permalink] New post 17 Sep 2012, 23:33
Why there is ",and" in "with the empire fire -walling the crises, and retaking ". Isn't it should be "with the empire fire -walling the crises and retaking."
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Re: The paradox of the Roman empires history is marked by the [#permalink] New post 30 Apr 2014, 08:49
Any ideas on deciding between (C) and (D), I though D was more 'parallel' if you will because it maintains the same verb structure on participle tense, but simple past also sounds find and could be paralllel as in answer choice C.

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Re: The paradox of the Roman empires history is marked by the [#permalink] New post 19 May 2014, 13:21
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The paradox of the Roman empire’s history is marked by the fall of the western part around the 5th centaury A.D with several regions succumbing to cross border terrorism and internal insurgency, breaking into independent kingdoms, the rise of the eastern part, with the empire fire-walling the crises, and retaking most of the lost territories to establish a firm rule of over most of the Eastern Europe for another six to seven centuries

(A) with several regions succumbing to cross border terrorism and internal insurgency, breaking into independent kingdoms, the rise of the eastern part, with the empire fire - walling the crises, and retaking

(B) as several regions succumbed to cross border terrorism and internal insurgency and broke into independent kingdoms, and the rising of the eastern part as the empire fire-walled the crises and retook

C) when several regions succumbed to cross border terrorism and internal insurgency and broke into independent kingdoms, and by the rise of the eastern part, where the empire fire-walled the crises to retake
(D) with several regions succumbing to cross border terrorism and internal insurgency and breaking into independent kingdoms, and by the rise of the eastern part, with the empire fire -walling the crises, and retaking

(E) amid several regions succumbing to cross border terrorism and internal insurgency broke into independent kingdoms, and by the rise of the eastern part, as the empire fire -walling the crises, retook

Can somebody rate this?

My Pick was C.. Please confirm the OA..OA mentioned in the link below is C.
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Re: The paradox of the Roman empires history is marked by the [#permalink] New post 07 Jul 2014, 01:38
Good problem. I am glad that I got it right. It would have been a sitter , had any answer choice got words to highlight the paradox (irony/contrast)
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Re: The paradox of the Roman empires history is marked by the [#permalink] New post 26 Jul 2014, 21:27
Daagh,

The question has "The paradox of the Roman empire’s history is" which is in present tense. Whereas option D has everything in past. So how come D be considered correct? Shouldn't it be eliminated? Please explain. Thank you
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Daagh,

The question has "The paradox of the Roman empire’s history is" which is in present tense. Whereas option D has everything in past. So how come D be considered correct? Shouldn't it be eliminated? Please explain. Thank you


Actually two tenses are being considered in the given statement.

The paradox of the Roman empire’s history is marked by the fall of the western part around the 5th centaury A.D with several regions succumbing to cross border terrorism and internal insurgency, breaking into independent kingdoms, the rise of the eastern part, with the empire fire-walling the crises, and retaking most of the lost territories to establish a firm rule of over most of the Eastern Europe for another six to seven centuries

I) One is present tense as you have highlighted. i.e. "The paradox of the Roman empire’s history is marked....." Here "Marking" is done at present. Therefore, it has present tense is.
II) Now again, the event of "marking" is done based on two past events. These past events are represented by "by" word in option D. That is, The paradox of the Roman empire’s history is marked by X, and by Y. Where X= the fall of the western part around the 5th centaury A.D, with X1
Y=the rise of the eastern part, with Y1.

In option D, both X1 and Y1 are parallel, using past tense.

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