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The Parthenon is larger than usual for a Doric temple, with eight columns on the short sides and seventeen on the long ones rather than the typical six and thirteen.

(a) usual
(b) is usual
(c) has been usual
(d) one usually is
(e) it is usual


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Can someone please break down the grammar errors for each answer choice, in addition, explain why (B) is a preferred answer choice over (D).

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In 480 B.C., the flourishing city was captured by the Persians, who burned down nearly every building in it, including those on the Acropolis. Thirty years passed before the Greeks decided to rebuild the sanctuary. The project was directed by the great statesman Pericles, who placed in charge the sculptor Phidias. The first building to be constructed was the Parthenon. It was larger than usual for a Doric temple, with eight columns on the short sides and seventeen on the long ones, compared with the typical six and thirteen. Around the top of the outside wall of the main building and inside the outer colonnade ran a frieze depicting the yearly festival in honor of Athena. The sculptural decoration also included representations of the birth of Athena from the head of Zeus, the contest for dominion over Athens between Athena and Poseidon, and, above the outer colonnade, battles of the giants, the Amazons, and the centaurs. Most of the building was made of white marble from Mount Pentelicus, ten miles north of Athens.
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Re: The Parthenon is larger than usual for a Doric temple, with eight colu [#permalink] New post   29 Nov 2017, 09:12
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Hello Experts,,Can you help me understand the comparison in option B and why it is better than E
HOw do we eliminate options a,e


E is wrong because the pronoun "it" does not have an antecedent. ("It" cannot be a placeholder, since you would not find the group of words whose place "it" is holding.)

The difficult part here is the difference between A and B: "usual" or "is usual".

The key here is to understand that only "usual" or "the usual" is used when the word "usual" replaces a concrete noun (comparison between two nouns). Example,

The car he brought today is bigger than the usual... correct ("usual" = the CAR he generally brings.)
I ran faster than usual.. wrong (the word "usual" does not replace a concrete noun.)
I ran faster than is usual... correct.

Similarly,

The Parthenon is larger than (the) usual....wrong (implies that there is another temple which is the usual.. wrong meaning).
The Parthenon is larger than is usual ... correct.
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Re: The Parthenon is larger than usual for a Doric temple, with eight colu [#permalink] New post   15 May 2017, 06:57
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The use of ellipses in the sentence is what makes it difficult …

Consider the following sentence :

Joe is afraid of ghost more than his wife ..

Can you make out about what this comparison is ??

Is Joe more afraid of ghost than he is afraid of his wife ??…or

Is joe more afraid of ghost that his wife is ??

In such cases, a repetition of “preposition” or “main verb” can clear the picture ..
For example :
Joe is afraid of ghost more than IS his wife …(notice the addition of “IS”)
Or Joe is afraid of ghost more than of his wife …(notice the addition of “OF”)…

Both are acceptable …so we need to understand the meaning and chose the option …


Now coming to the current question :

The Parthenon is larger than usual for a Doric temple, with eight columns on the short sides and seventeen on the long ones rather than the typical six and thirteen.

Currently, the sentence means that the Parthenon is larger than “USUAL” …but usual of what is not clear from the sentence …
The sentence is actually trying to convey that the Parthenon is larger than a usual Parthenon for a Doric temple..

This meaning can be clearly conveyed if we just repeat the “is”

The Parthenon is larger than “IS” usual for a doric temple ….which is OPTION B


Option D : one usually is :
As explained above, “one” is ambiguous and hence wrong…


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The Parthenon is larger than usual for a Doric temple, with eight colu [#permalink] New post   Updated on: 01 Nov 2021, 03:39
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Could you please help me with eliminating option A. I am still not able to understand from the above posts

Here's the sentence created via the use of choice (A), in other words, the original version.

The Parthenon is larger than usual for a Doric temple, with eight columns on the short sides and seventeen on the long ones rather than the typical six and thirteen.

This choice is not that easy to eliminate. It seems to convey a meaning that makes sense, but here's the thing.

The expression "something is larger than usual", is generally used to express that that thing is larger than that thing usually is. For instance:

    Last month the balance in my bank account was larger than usual, because I was holding some money for a friend.

The above sentence conveys a meaning that makes sense, that the account was larger than that account usually is.

So, I guess the clearest reason to eliminate (A) is that the version created via the use of (A) could be perceived as conveying that the Parthenon is larger than the Parthenon usually is, as in, "The Parthenon is larger than usual."

So, the sentence thus created conveys a weird meaning: The Parthenon is larger than the Parthenon usually is for a Doric temple.

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Re: The Parthenon is larger than usual for a Doric temple, with eight colu [#permalink] New post   17 Dec 2010, 12:26
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tonebeeze wrote:
The Parthenon is larger than usual for a Doric temple, with eight columns on the short sides and seventeen on the long ones rather than the typical six and thirteen.

(a) usual
(b) is usual
(c) has been usual
(d) one usually is
(e) it is usual


Can someone please break down the grammar errors for each answer choice, in addition, explain why (B) is a preferred answer choice over (D).

Thanks all!


Hi,

short sentence correction options may seem easier at first glance, but the correct answer often reflects a minor grammar or style issue, so we need to be extra careful on these.

B is superior to A for parallelism reasons: "IS larger than IS usual" maintains parallelism.

C changes the tense, which changes the meaning of the sentence.

D has the ambiguous pronoun "one", which technically refers to the closest preceding legal parent noun. In this sentence, the only preceding legal parent noun is "the Parthenon", so D actually reads:
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The Parthenon is larger than the Parthenon usually is

which makes absolutely no sense - we want to compare the Parthenon to other Doric temples, not to itself.

E introduces "it", which is grammatically and stylistically wrong.

Hope that helps!
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Re: The Parthenon is larger than usual for a Doric temple, with eight colu [#permalink] New post   27 Oct 2015, 07:53
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Hi all,

My 2 cents on this:
I have noticed, at least on official SC questions, that when we find something unusual it normally crops up from ambiguous meaning.

Here, C can be eliminated because it changes the tense and thus the intended meaning.
D and E both can be eliminated because they contain pronouns, one and it, that refer back to Parthenon and thus makes the sentence nonsensical by repeating Parthenon.

Now, to choose between A and B we have to look for meaning (ambiguity).
A says, The Parthenon is larger than usual for a Doric temple - it could mean two things:
1. The Parthenon is larger than an usual Doric temple (this is probably the intended meaning)
2. The Parthenon is larger than usually the Parthenon should be (this is the ambiguous meaning, making A wrong)
So, B comes on rescue and discards the ellipsis present in A. (Ellipsis: practice of omitting the understood words)

B says, The Parthenon is larger than is usual for a Doric temple - Note that the ambiguous meaning cannot be derived from B.

I hope this helps,

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Re: The Parthenon is larger than usual for a Doric temple, with eight colu [#permalink] New post   27 Oct 2015, 09:06
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If we think problem in terms of "X is larger than Y". X & Y must be of same type right?
X--> Parthenon and Y--> should make sense for comparison. I choose D btw.
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Re: The Parthenon is larger than usual for a Doric temple, with eight colu [#permalink] New post   27 Oct 2015, 10:55
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If we think problem in terms of "X is larger than Y". X & Y must be of same type right?
X--> Parthenon and Y--> should make sense for comparison. I choose D btw.


Hi rakeshpai1,

D is incorrect because of one - the pronoun. 'One' has to replace some noun, right? That noun is The Parthenon. So, we have:
The Parthenon is larger than the Parthenon usually is for a Doric temple - does that makes sense?

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Re: The Parthenon is larger than usual for a Doric temple, with eight colu [#permalink] New post   24 Sep 2017, 03:14
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The Parthenon is larger than usual for a Doric temple, with eight columns on the short sides and seventeen on the long ones rather than the typical six and thirteen.

(a) usual
(b) is usual
(c) has been usual
(d) one usually is
(e) it is usual


Can someone please break down the grammar errors for each answer choice, in addition, explain why (B) is a preferred answer choice over (D).

Thanks all!

Option A- Wrong comparison. comparison is being done between parthenon and usual.
Option B-Close option KEep it
Option C-No need of using present perfect in passive form infact present perfect is not at all required.
Option D- Close option Keep it
Option E-It is ambiguous referrring to whom not clear.

Now between b& D B is better for the reason crisp and precise and one in option D is referring to what thing( we do not know), my observation- GMAT usually do not uses one though there might be exceptions..
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Re: The Parthenon is larger than usual for a Doric temple, with eight colu [#permalink] New post   27 Nov 2017, 00:28
Hello Experts,,Can you help me understand the comparison in option B and why it is better than E
HOw do we eliminate options a,e
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Re: The Parthenon is larger than usual for a Doric temple, with eight colu [#permalink] New post   19 Sep 2018, 08:05
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Could you please help me with eliminating option A. I am still not able to understand from the above posts
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Re: The Parthenon is larger than usual for a Doric temple, with eight colu [#permalink] New post   10 Mar 2019, 02:50
C changes the tense, which in turn changes the meaning of the sentence to mean that there was a standard size for Doric temples that has changed.



D has ‘one’ incorrectly referring to the Parthenon. The ‘it’ in E is grammatically wrong and awkward.



This is now between A and B. B is the better choice because ‘is usual’ maintains parallelism with ‘is larger’
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Re: The Parthenon is larger than usual for a Doric temple, with eight colu [#permalink] New post   16 Aug 2019, 08:55
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Can you please explain why D is wrong? and what difference does "is" makes between A and B?

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Re: The Parthenon is larger than usual for a Doric temple, with eight colu [#permalink] New post   17 Aug 2019, 11:34
i still didn't get why A is incorrect. Can anyone please some more light on "a"?
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Re: The Parthenon is larger than usual for a Doric temple, with eight colu [#permalink] New post   24 Aug 2019, 14:13
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Can you please explain why D is wrong? and what difference does "is" makes between A and B?

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MartyTargetTestPrep gave a great explanation of A vs B in this post.

Choice (D) is addressed here.

If those posts don't answer your questions, let us know!
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Surprisingly, a watermelon is considered a vegetable in Oklahoma. The state even declared the watermelon its official vegetable in 2007. On discovering this fact, you may think a watermelon is really large for a vegetable - because a usual vegetable is not this large. I am of the same opinion - a watermelon is definitely larger than usual vegetable. So:

- A watermelon is large for a vegetable (it’s unusual for a vegetable to be so large)
- A watermelon is usual for a vegetable (it’s usual for a vegetable to be so large)
- A watermelon is large than is usual for a vegetable. (a watermelon is large rather than usual for a vegetable )

Similar comparison: The Parthenon is a temple, and it’s widely considered a supreme example of Doric architecture. So, the Parthenon is a Doric temple. However, some people who have witnessed its colossal size may say:

- The Parthenon is large for a Doric temple (usual Doric temples aren’t this large)
- The Parthenon is usual for a Doric temple (usual Doric temples are this large)
- The Parthenon is larger than is usual for a Doric temple. (The Parthenon is large rather than usual for a Doric temple)

Conclusion: People almost always differ in opinion. So, you had better listen to your heart. And choose B.

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Re: The Parthenon is larger than usual for a Doric temple, with eight colu [#permalink] New post   14 Apr 2020, 07:53
Hi MartyTargetTestPrep,

Thank you for your great explanation.

I already understand why A is incorrect now as per your explanation.
However, I fail to understand why B is correct.
And what is the exact meaning in B?
I think it means the same and cannot differentiate the meaning between A and B.

The Parthenon is larger than is usual for a Doric temple, ....
What things are being compared in the sentence , Parthenon and something else or not ?

Please explain.
Thank you.
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Re: The Parthenon is larger than usual for a Doric temple, with eight colu [#permalink] New post   14 Apr 2020, 10:01
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Hi MartyTargetTestPrep,

Thank you for your great explanation.

I already understand why A is incorrect now as per your explanation.
However, I fail to understand why B is correct.
And what is the exact meaning in B?
I think it means the same and cannot differentiate the meaning between A and B.

The Parthenon is larger than is usual for a Doric temple, ....
What things are being compared in the sentence , Parthenon and something else or not ?

Please explain.
Thank you.

The truth is that the ways in which comparisons are expressed in the English language are not always very logical.

Here's an example of one not quite logical way in which people express comparisons:

    Company A made a greater amount of money than Company B made.

That sentence says that the amount of money was greater, but greater than what? No other amount of money is mentioned.

Here's a more logical way of expressing that same comparison:

    Company A made an amount of money greater than the amount that Company B made.

OK, now, we are actually comparing one amount with another, but the first sentence, the much less logical one, is also considered acceptable.

So, let's consider the version created via the use of (B).

    The Parthenon is larger than is usual for a Doric temple, ....

Does the wording of that sentence that make logical sense? Not really, but here are some ways in which that structure can be interpreted:

    The Parthenon is larger than what is usual for a Doric temple, ....

    The Parthenon is larger than the largeness that is usual for a Doric temple, ....

Even those interpretations are not quite logical, but that's the way English works.
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Re: The Parthenon is larger than usual for a Doric temple, with eight colu [#permalink] New post   24 Jun 2020, 02:22
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ballest127 wrote:
Hi MartyTargetTestPrep,

Thank you for your great explanation.

I already understand why A is incorrect now as per your explanation.
However, I fail to understand why B is correct.
And what is the exact meaning in B?
I think it means the same and cannot differentiate the meaning between A and B.

The Parthenon is larger than is usual for a Doric temple, ....
What things are being compared in the sentence , Parthenon and something else or not ?

Please explain.
Thank you.

The truth is that the ways in which comparisons are expressed in the English language are not always very logical.

Here's an example of one not quite logical way in which people express comparisons:

    Company A made a greater amount of money than Company B made.

That sentence says that the amount of money was greater, but greater than what? No other amount of money is mentioned.

Here's a more logical way of expressing that same comparison:

    Company A made an amount of money greater than the amount that Company B made.

OK, now, we are actually comparing one amount with another, but the first sentence, the much less logical one, is also considered acceptable.

So, let's consider the version created via the use of (B).

    The Parthenon is larger than is usual for a Doric temple, ....

Does the wording of that sentence that make logical sense? Not really, but here are some ways in which that structure can be interpreted:

    The Parthenon is larger than what is usual for a Doric temple, ....

    The Parthenon is larger than the largeness that is usual for a Doric temple, ....

Even those interpretations are not quite logical, but that's the way English works.


MartyTargetTestPrep

thanks for the explanations. Here B is definitely the answer but could you please elaborate a little more on why the tense in c is wrong? would greatly help, thanks!
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Re: The Parthenon is larger than usual for a Doric temple, with eight colu [#permalink] New post   14 Jul 2021, 23:13
(a) usual
This deleivers ambigious meaning whether it is usual for the patterson to the size or the Doric temple
(b) is usual
This provides the exact meaning

(c) has been usual
It alters meaning

(d) one usually is
redundant use of verb

(e) it is usual
redundant use of verb
Hence IMO B
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