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The pigments used in modern oil paints are different than [#permalink] New post 25 Jul 2010, 13:34
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The pigments used in modern oil paints are different than the ones used in older paints because they are more lightfast and vibrant.

are different than the ones used in older paints because they are
differ from those used in older paints in that the modern ones are
are different than those used in older paints because the modern ones are
are different from the ones used in older paints on account of being
differ from the ones used in older paints because they are

I understand why the answer is right, but one part in the explanation made me say "what?" English is my second language. Please, please explain...

The purpose of this sentence is to contrast pigments used in modern oil paints with the pigments used in older paints. The original sentence uses the wordy expression “are different than,” but the idiomatic expression is “are different from,” and the more concise “differ from” would be even better. In addition, the statement “…X are different than Y because…” is misleading due to the use of “because”: it implies that because the pigments used in modern oil paints are more lightfast and vibrant, they are different (in some unspecified way) from the pigments used in older paints. However, the intended meaning is that the pigments differ “in that” one is more lightfast and vibrant. Secondly, "the ones" can be replaced with the more concise "those." Finally, the antecedent of the plural pronoun “they” is ambiguous: "they" could refer to the older pigments or to the modern pigments.
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Re: What? 700 [#permalink] New post 26 Jul 2010, 07:54
I know this is little tough. When comparing a with b, if you see "those or that" then pick that choice which contain these words.

You already got one hint i.e. The split different from / different than

B, D and E left
Second split is between those / ones. Leave "ones" and you have the answer. B it is. :wink:

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The pigments used in modern oil paints are different than the ones used in older paints because they are more lightfast and vibrant.

are different than the ones used in older paints because they are
differ from those used in older paints in that the modern ones are
are different than those used in older paints because the modern ones are
are different from the ones used in older paints on account of being
differ from the ones used in older paints because they are

I understand why the answer is right, but one part in the explanation made me say "what?" English is my second language. Please, please explain...

The purpose of this sentence is to contrast pigments used in modern oil paints with the pigments used in older paints. The original sentence uses the wordy expression “are different than,” but the idiomatic expression is “are different from,” and the more concise “differ from” would be even better. In addition, the statement “…X are different than Y because…” is misleading due to the use of “because”: it implies that because the pigments used in modern oil paints are more lightfast and vibrant, they are different (in some unspecified way) from the pigments used in older paints. However, the intended meaning is that the pigments differ “in that” one is more lightfast and vibrant. Secondly, "the ones" can be replaced with the more concise "those." Finally, the antecedent of the plural pronoun “they” is ambiguous: "they" could refer to the older pigments or to the modern pigments.

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Re: What? 700 [#permalink] New post 26 Jul 2010, 08:03
"different from" is the correct idiom

'those' is better than 'ones'

The pigments used in modern oil paints are different than the ones used in older paints because they are more lightfast and vibrant.

A) are different than the ones used in older paints because they are
B) differ from those used in older paints in that the modern ones are
C) are different than those used in older paints because the modern ones are
D) are different from the ones used in older paints on account of being
E) differ from the ones used in older paints because they are - 'they' is ambiguous
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Re: What? 700 [#permalink] New post 19 May 2011, 08:53
+1 B

- different/differ from
- Eliminates the ambiguity in the pronouns
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Re: What? 700 [#permalink] New post 22 May 2011, 00:35
Although "different from" is a correct idiom, I think don't think "differ from" is. "differ with" is a correct idiom IMO.

Can someone please clarify?
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Re: The pigments used in modern oil paints are different than [#permalink] New post 06 May 2013, 02:36
Though I do agree with the correct usage of From Vs Than...I am quiet skeptical about usage of differ vs different...isn't differ here is an incorrect usage....IMO differ is used for difference in opinion and views...for eg "I differ from you on this"...Can somebody explain this ???
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Re: What? 700 [#permalink] New post 06 May 2013, 05:01
gmatpapa wrote:
Although "different from" is a correct idiom, I think don't think "differ from" is. "differ with" is a correct idiom IMO.

Can someone please clarify?


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Though I do agree with the correct usage of From Vs Than...I am quiet skeptical about usage of differ vs different...isn't differ here is an incorrect usage....IMO differ is used for difference in opinion and views...for eg "I differ from you on this"...Can somebody explain this ???


"differ from sb./sth. in that..." is correct idiom, according to the Concise Oxford Dictionary, OUP 2007.
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Re: The pigments used in modern oil paints are different than [#permalink] New post 31 Jul 2015, 22:16
chetan2u, 'different than' or 'different from' - could you please confirm which is gmat preferable or the correct idiom ?
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chetan2u, 'different than' or 'different from' - could you please confirm which is gmat preferable or the correct idiom ?



Hello Swaroopdev

Here is excerpt from Manhattan SC:
"Note: The form DIFFERENT THAN does not appear in the 10th, 11th, or 12th Editions of the Official Guide. According to other style guides, you should use DIFFERENT FROM, rather than DIFFERENT THAN, when you are comparing nouns."
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Re: The pigments used in modern oil paints are different than [#permalink] New post 01 Aug 2015, 07:03
Harley1980, thank you, it was helpful.
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