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The president of the block association tried to convince her neighbors they should join forces to prevent crime in the neighborhood rather than continuing to be victimized.
(A) they should join forces to prevent crime in the neighborhood rather than continuing to be victimized
(B) they should join forces to prevent crime in the neighborhood rather than continue to be victimized
(C) about joining forces to prevent crime in the neighborhood instead of continuing to be victimized
(D) for the joining of forces to prevent crime in the neighborhood rather than continue to be victimized
(E) to join forces to prevent crime in the neighborhood rather than continuing to be victimized

Revered by an ill-informed citizenry, the Duke of York was feted opulently for several months before there was denunciation and exile.
(A) there was denunciation and exile
(B) he was to be denounced with exile
(C) being denounced and exiled
(D) denunciation and his exile
(E) being exiled, having been denounced
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20 Jun 2004, 18:10
X tried to convince Y .............to prevent crime......rather than continue to be victimized.

Between B and D , B is better.

What about E for the the second sentence ?

Is anything wrong with "before being exiled,having been denounced" ?
It might seem wordy !

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20 Jun 2004, 21:07
" Tried to convince her neighbors.. they "

Shouldnt we have "that" after neighbours or it could be
'Tried to convince her neighbours to join"..
Tried to convince her neigbours they should... seem odd.
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20 Jun 2004, 21:12
Regarding the second.. the answer is C.This question shows that being is not a total stranger in GMAT land. It can be invited on some occasions.
Any thoughts on this by the experts.
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20 Jun 2004, 21:48
I would go with E and C

1- convince X to do Y is the right idiom
A and B are eliminated because they are wordy. Pronoun "they" can be eliminated and replaced by the above mentioned idiom
C and D "convince X about joining" and "convince X for the joining" are unidiomatic

2- "being denounced and exiled" is a passive gerund with present participle form of "to be" and is most concise.
Ex: He was much despised before being loved and appreciated.
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21 Jun 2004, 00:13
crackgmat750 wrote:
Answers given are B and C.

Is this the OA?

I picked E and C

I am not sure about 1.
I still think the underlined portion in 1 has to be a dependent clause.

SC Gurus am I missing something?
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21 Jun 2004, 00:58
Yep, B and C should be the answers.

E would be right if it read "to join forces to prevent crime in the neighborhood rather than continue to be victimized."
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21 Jun 2004, 01:36
Though I agree with ob that "continue" is better than "continuing" for the given context, but still I feel (E) looks better, as it uses "to" properly to connect two clauses, or I may say is more idiomatic.
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21 Jun 2004, 02:02
mba wrote:
Though I agree with ob that "continue" is better than "continuing" for the given context, but still I feel (E) looks better, as it uses "to" properly to connect two clauses, or I may say is more idiomatic.

"Continue" is not just better, it's grammatically correct whereas "continuing" is not.
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21 Jun 2004, 19:48
E. association tried to convince .. to join .. to prevent.

C. passive voice should be used when the doer is unknown. Here we don't know who denounced the Duke.
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21 Jun 2004, 20:19
ob wrote:
mba wrote:
Though I agree with ob that "continue" is better than "continuing" for the given context, but still I feel (E) looks better, as it uses "to" properly to connect two clauses, or I may say is more idiomatic.

"Continue" is not just better, it's grammatically correct whereas "continuing" is not.

Ex: Continuing to be victimized is not an option.
The above is perfectly fine with me and is just a gerund phrase with "Continuing to be victimized" as subject.
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21 Jun 2004, 21:03
Hi, Pardon me to have joined late

The president of the block association tried to convince her neighbors they should join forces to prevent crime in the neighborhood rather than continuing to be victimized.

(A) they should join forces to prevent crime in the neighborhood rather than continuing to be victimized - Not parallel ( Convince, Prevent, Continue - All these 3 shuld be parallel) - Hence wrong.

(B) they should join forces to prevent crime in the neighborhood rather than continue to be victimized - (Convince, Prevent and Continue are Parallel), hence is the correct one.

(C) about joining forces to prevent crime in the neighborhood instead of continuing to be victimized - Not parallel- Wrong

(D) for the joining of forces to prevent crime in the neighborhood rather than continue to be victimized - For the joining ... yooooooo, wrong construction.

(E) to join forces to prevent crime in the neighborhood rather than continuing to be victimized - Again, not parallel. - Wrong.

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Revered by an ill-informed citizenry, the Duke of York was feted opulently for several months before there was denunciation and exile.

(A) there was denunciation and exile - Passive voice - Wrong.

(B) he was to be denounced with exile - Again, pasive voice and was to be denouced .. naaa, nto a real flow.- Wrong.

(C) being denounced and exiled - Perfect, goes well with Opulently (an act that was going on for month), clearly refers to the Duke. - Correct one.

(D) denunciation and his exile - explaination gven by other users.

(E) being exiled, having been denounced - Wordy and awkward - Wrong

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21 Jun 2004, 21:42
Yes Carsen, parallelism is the problem with 1-E. B should be it on that basis.
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21 Jun 2004, 22:18
Paul wrote:
ob wrote:
mba wrote:
Though I agree with ob that "continue" is better than "continuing" for the given context, but still I feel (E) looks better, as it uses "to" properly to connect two clauses, or I may say is more idiomatic.

"Continue" is not just better, it's grammatically correct whereas "continuing" is not.

Ex: Continuing to be victimized is not an option.
The above is perfectly fine with me and is just a gerund phrase with "Continuing to be victimized" as subject.

Paul, you're ignoring the context here. Choice E is grammatically incorrect because the second part calls for a bare infinitive:

to join forces to prevent crime in the neighborhood rather than continuing (should be continue) to be victimized.

Your sentence is perfectly OK. However, it is not an adequate example to illustrate the problem with (E).
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21 Jun 2004, 23:08
1.E
A&B miss x-factor before "they"
c &d- "convince about" and "convince for" does not sound good to my ears.
I donot think E has parellelism problem. "I would rather take gmat again than getting rejected right away"

2.C is clear choice
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21 Jun 2004, 23:25
Hi

I guess there is a TYPO in the choice B for the 1st question. There should be a 'that" in the begining of the choice B. Anyways, it is the only one that clears the parallelism error, which is in all other choices.

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22 Jun 2004, 02:18
The president of the block association tried to convince her neighbors they should join forces to prevent crime in the neighborhood rather than continuing to be victimized.
(A) they should join forces to prevent crime in the neighborhood rather than continuing to be victimized
(B) they should join forces to prevent crime in the neighborhood rather than continue to be victimized
(C) about joining forces to prevent crime in the neighborhood instead of continuing to be victimized
(D) for the joining of forces to prevent crime in the neighborhood rather than continue to be victimized
(E) to join forces to prevent crime in the neighborhood rather than continuing to be victimized

I have chosen C because "that" is missing in A and B. In D, "convince for" is not convincing. The choice E does not have proper parallelism with "to".

Revered by an ill-informed citizenry, the Duke of York was feted opulently for several months before there was denunciation and exile.
(A) there was denunciation and exile
(B) he was to be denounced with exile
(C) being denounced and exiled
(D) denunciation and his exile
(E) being exiled, having been denounced

I have chosen E here because one gets feted after denunciation. A, B and D are ruled out as they do not look grammatically correct. C is a clear contender but looks illogical.

Do let me know if I am wrong.

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22 Jun 2004, 02:39
I think the answers are already given as B and C. Both of my answers are wrong Bingo!! I am on my way to GMAT800 ..

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The president of the block association tried to convince her neighbors they should join forces to prevent crime in the neighborhood rather than continuing to be victimized.
(A) they should join forces to prevent crime in the neighborhood rather than continuing to be victimized
(B) they should join forces to prevent crime in the neighborhood rather than continue to be victimized
(C) about joining forces to prevent crime in the neighborhood instead of continuing to be victimized
(D) for the joining of forces to prevent crime in the neighborhood rather than continue to be victimized
(E) to join forces to prevent crime in the neighborhood rather than continuing to be victimized

I have chosen C because "that" is missing in A and B. In D, "convince for" is not convincing. The choice E does not have proper parallelism with "to".

Revered by an ill-informed citizenry, the Duke of York was feted opulently for several months before there was denunciation and exile.
(A) there was denunciation and exile
(B) he was to be denounced with exile
(C) being denounced and exiled
(D) denunciation and his exile
(E) being exiled, having been denounced

I have chosen E here because one gets feted after denunciation. A, B and D are ruled out as they do not look grammatically correct. C is a clear contender but looks illogical.

Do let me know if I am wrong.

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