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The proportion of men among students enrolled in nursing or [#permalink] New post 24 Sep 2010, 22:35
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The proportion of men among students enrolled in nursing or medical assistant programs has increased over the last several decades. For example, in 1965, less than 1 percent of men between the ages of eighteen and twenty-five were enrolled in a nursing or medical assistant program, while in 1995, 4.5 percent of men between the ages of eighteen and twenty-five were enrolled in these programs.

Which of the following statistics, if available for both 1965 and 1995, would be most helpful in evaluating the truth of the comparison presented above?
a) The percentage of men between the ages of eighteen and twenty-five who were not enrolled in nursing or medical assistant programs.
b) The percentage of men between the ages of eighteen and twenty-five who graduated from nursing and medical assistant programs.
c) The percentage of men who, after attending nursing or medical assistant programs, entered these professions.
d) The percentage of women between the ages of eighteen and twenty-five who were enrolled in nursing or medical assistant programs at these same times.
e) The percentage of high school graduates who went on to pursue higher education.

this is from I don't agree with the OA. Eli or anyone from Kaplan, please explain this.
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Re: Men enrolled in nursing(Kaplan CAT CR) [#permalink] New post 25 Sep 2010, 05:55
IMO a

The percentages of men who are not enrolled should be enough to validate the argument . b c d e are irrelevant

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Re: Men enrolled in nursing(Kaplan CAT CR) [#permalink] New post 25 Sep 2010, 06:26
D should be the answer

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The proportion of men among students enrolled in nursing or medical assistant programs has increased over the last several decades. For example, in 1965, less than 1 percent of men between the ages of eighteen and twenty-five were enrolled in a nursing or medical assistant program, while in 1995, 4.5 percent of men between the ages of eighteen and twenty-five were enrolled in these programs.


This stimulus says more men has joined for medical assistant program just by quoting the percent of men in total men.

For example,
Men
1965 --- 1% out of 100,000 => 1000
1995 --- 4.5% out of 10,000 => 4500
Women could be - as the stimulus does not say anything about the total population or women population.
1965 --- 100000
1995 --- 10000000
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Re: Men enrolled in nursing(Kaplan CAT CR) [#permalink] New post 25 Sep 2010, 06:38
Yeah , the right answer is D

the best takeaway for problem above is that, increment is in PERCENTAGE does not necessarily lead to increment in numbers and vice versa.
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Re: Men enrolled in nursing(Kaplan CAT CR) [#permalink] New post 28 Sep 2010, 19:11
IMO D should be the answer. The key point in the stimulus is "The [highlight]proportion of men among students[/highlight] enrolled".

Thus by only knowing the % of women (or total population) enrolled we can make out whether proportion of men has increased.
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Re: Men enrolled in nursing(Kaplan CAT CR) [#permalink] New post 29 Sep 2010, 05:34
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IMO D should be the answer. The key point in the stimulus is "The [highlight]proportion of men among students[/highlight] enrolled".

Thus by only knowing the % of women (or total population) enrolled we can make out whether proportion of men has increased.


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Re: Men enrolled in nursing(Kaplan CAT CR) [#permalink] New post 29 Sep 2010, 06:03
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For example,
Men
1965 --- 1% out of 100,000 => 1000
1995 --- 4.5% out of 10,000 => 4500
Women could be - as the stimulus does not say anything about the total population or women population.
1965 --- 100000
1995 --- 10000000



Dreamy, did you mean - 1995 --- 4.5% out of 10,000 => 450 :P
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Re: Men enrolled in nursing(Kaplan CAT CR) [#permalink] New post 29 Sep 2010, 06:08
I think D is the best among the available options, but not very meaningful since the statement (conclusion) is not very clear.

Proportion of men with reference to whom ?

Men18~25 / Women18~25
Men18~25 / Total
Men18~25 / Mean 30~35

However, D makes sense from what is available to pick. Any comments anyone ?
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Re: Men enrolled in nursing(Kaplan CAT CR) [#permalink] New post 29 Sep 2010, 19:20
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The proportion of men among students enrolled in nursing or medical assistant programs has increased over the last several decades. For example, in 1965, less than 1 percent of men between the ages of eighteen and twenty-five were enrolled in a nursing or medical assistant program, while in 1995, 4.5 percent of men between the ages of eighteen and twenty-five were enrolled in these programs.

Which of the following statistics, if available for both 1965 and 1995, would be most helpful in evaluating the truth of the comparison presented above?
a) The percentage of men between the ages of eighteen and twenty-five who were not enrolled in nursing or medical assistant programs.
b) The percentage of men between the ages of eighteen and twenty-five who graduated from nursing and medical assistant programs.
c) The percentage of men who, after attending nursing or medical assistant programs, entered these professions.
d) The percentage of women between the ages of eighteen and twenty-five who were enrolled in nursing or medical assistant programs at these same times.
e) The percentage of high school graduates who went on to pursue higher education.

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Step 1: Identify the question type.

This question type is asking us what information would be useful for evaluating the information here. Kaplan considers this question type to be a hybrid strengthen-weaken problem, and we will act accordingly, analyzing the prompt for its assumptions.

Step 2: Untangle the stimulus.

First, we need to understand the author's conclusion. In this case, it's the first sentence: he is arguing that the proportion of males among nursing students has increased.

Then, we need to pin down his evidence. He bases this claim on two statistics: the percent of men enrolled in nursing school in two different years three decades apart.

Finally, we need to identify the author's assumption--and the key here is a very subtle scope shift. Both his evidence and his conclusion deal with a proportion of men nursing. However, his conclusion is bout the proportion of men that makes up the nursing field, while his evidence is about the proportion of nurses that make up the general population of men!

In other words, he doesn't actually give us any information on the proportion within the field of nursing. He tells us only that a larger number of a (presumably) larger population of men are nurses.

Step 3: Predict the answer.

So there are more men--does that make up a larger percentage of the whole? Well, we need to know, then, how many women there are. If the number of women has remained constant while the number of men increased, clearly the proportion changed. However, if there are just more nurses--if lots more women are studying nursing in 1965 than in 1995--it's entirely possible the proportion has remained unchanged.

Step 4: Evaluate the answer choices.

We're looking for information on women enrolled in nursing programs, and that's what D offers us.
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Re: Men enrolled in nursing(Kaplan CAT CR) [#permalink] New post 29 Sep 2010, 19:49
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The proportion of men among students enrolled in nursing or medical assistant programs has increased over the last several decades. For example, in 1965, less than 1 percent of men between the ages of eighteen and twenty-five were enrolled in a nursing or medical assistant program, while in 1995, 4.5 percent of men between the ages of eighteen and twenty-five were enrolled in these programs.


Here the conclusion is based on the percentage of men among the enrolled students[MEN + WOMEN]
The evidence provided is based on the percentage of men among all the men in that age range.

So to support the conclusion we have to show some data related to women students that reflects the percentage of women students has decreased over the period of time

So D is the ans
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Re: Men enrolled in nursing(Kaplan CAT CR) [#permalink] New post 03 Oct 2010, 14:38
D for me but it took me close to 3 minutes. The trick is the first statement talks about the proportion of men among students i.e. ratio of men:men+women but the percentages talk about ratio of men enrolled: total no. of men. So we need the info about women students.
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Re: Men enrolled in nursing(Kaplan CAT CR) [#permalink] New post 06 Apr 2011, 20:08
The answer is D.
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Re: Men enrolled in nursing(Kaplan CAT CR) [#permalink] New post 14 Jun 2011, 03:21
clean and systematic D here,as the proportion of woman enrolled should decrease here.

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Re: Men enrolled in nursing(Kaplan CAT CR) [#permalink] New post 14 Jun 2011, 14:34
D....% of men increase will lead to % of women decrease (which is what we need to know)
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Re: The proportion of men among students enrolled in nursing or [#permalink] New post 18 Dec 2013, 02:16
The Answer is D is the right answer.
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