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The steel industry has changed radically over the last two decades, as large, integrated companies such as Bethlehem Steel once conducted operations from mining at one end of the process to shipping at the other have greatly downsized, or in some cases shut down altogether. A. as large, integrated companies such as Bethlehem Steel B. as large, integrated companies, such as Bethlehem Steel, that C. with large, integrated companies, such as Bethlehem Steel, that D. while large, integrated companies, such as Bethlehem Steel, that E. and large, integrated companies such as Bethlehem Steel
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29 Aug 2010, 00:14
Hi,
The sentence needs "that" in order to correctly refer to the primary subject of the sentence large, integrated
companies. Otherwise the subject becomes "Bethlehem Steel", which is wrong. We are left with options B , C & D. C&D are wrong because of the highlighted portions.
The steel industry has changed radically over the last two decades, as large, integrated
companies such as Bethlehem Steel once conducted operations from mining at one
end of the process to shipping at the other have greatly downsized, or in some cases
shut down altogether.
B. as large, integrated companies, such as Bethlehem Steel, that
C. with large, integrated companies, such as Bethlehem Steel, that
D. while large, integrated companies, such as Bethlehem Steel, that
Answer - B
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Still not convinced over the answer. What's wrong with C? Has the change in meaning is the cause behind its wrongness? Verbal experts, need help.
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Hi all/experts, I know the OA is (B).Not convinced ,though, by the use of that and why it is necessary in this context. Plz Advice !!
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The steel industry has changed radically over the last two decades, as large, integrated companies such as Bethlehem Steel once conducted operations from mining at one end of the process to shipping at the other have greatly downsized, or in some cases shut down altogether. A. as large, integrated companies such as Bethlehem Steel B. as large, integrated companies, such as Bethlehem Steel, that C. with large, integrated companies, such as Bethlehem Steel, that D. while large, integrated companies, such as Bethlehem Steel, that E. and large, integrated companies such as Bethlehem Steel Here the usage of that is necessary. Let us consider choice A to understand this better. Choice A has three clauses. Clauses: 1.The steel industry has changed radically over the last two decades, 2. as large, integrated companies such as Bethlehem Steel once conducted operations from mining at one end of the process to shipping at the other 3.have greatly downsized, or in some cases shut down altogether. Here, integrated companies is the subject and "conducted" as well "have downsized" are the verbs. However, if you observe closely, you would see that there is no subject for "have greatly downsized". To assign it a subject we need to ensure that the first part of the sentence should be connected by "that". Hope this helps! targetgmatchotu wrote: Hi all/experts,
I know the OA is (B).Not convinced ,though, by the use of that and why it is necessary in this context.
Plz Advice !!
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Kris01 wrote: The steel industry has changed radically over the last two decades, as large, integrated companies such as Bethlehem Steel once conducted operations from mining at one end of the process to shipping at the other have greatly downsized, or in some cases shut down altogether. A. as large, integrated companies such as Bethlehem Steel B. as large, integrated companies, such as Bethlehem Steel, that C. with large, integrated companies, such as Bethlehem Steel, that D. while large, integrated companies, such as Bethlehem Steel, that E. and large, integrated companies such as Bethlehem Steel Here the usage of that is necessary. Let us consider choice A to understand this better. Choice A has three clauses. Clauses: 1.The steel industry has changed radically over the last two decades, 2. as large, integrated companies such as Bethlehem Steel once conducted operations from mining at one end of the process to shipping at the other 3.have greatly downsized, or in some cases shut down altogether. Here, integrated companies is the subject and "conducted" as well "have downsized" are the verbs. However, if you observe closely, you would see that there is no subject for "have greatly downsized". To assign it a subject we need to ensure that the first part of the sentence should be connected by "that". Hope this helps! targetgmatchotu wrote: Hi all/experts,
I know the OA is (B).Not convinced ,though, by the use of that and why it is necessary in this context.
Plz Advice !! Thanks a lot for the explanation. Just for the confirmation that I understood your point , please advice if my interpretation per below is fine. "X" once conducted operations from mining at one end of the process to shipping at the other [color=#005e20]have greatly downsized, or in some cases shut down altogether.[/color] X once conducted Y from A to B HAVE VER-ed ,So HAVE VERB-ed doesn't take X as SUBJECT ???? Rgds Thanks
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Yes, you got it right. Quote: Thanks a lot for the explanation.
Just for the confirmation that I understood your point , please advice if my interpretation per below is fine.
"X" once conducted operations from mining at one end of the process to shipping at the other [color=#005e20]have greatly downsized, or in some cases shut down altogether.[/color]
X once conducted Y from A to B HAVE VER-ed ,
So HAVE VERB-ed doesn't take X as SUBJECT ????
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Quote: "X" once conducted operations from mining at one end of the process to shipping at the other have greatly downsized, or in some cases shut down altogether.
X once conducted Y from A to B HAVE VER-ed,
So HAVE VERB-ed doesn't take X as SUBJECT ????
"X" once conducted operations from mining at one end of the process to shipping at the other have greatly downsized, or in some cases shut down altogether. This clause per se is ungrammatical because there are two actions here that are not properly conjugated. So this is a run-on. 1. "X" once conducted operations from mining at one end of the process to shipping at the other 2. have greatly downsized, or in some cases shut down altogether. Now you can amend the error in two ways. The first is the way the text does. i.e. - by introducing a relative pronoun such as that or which at the right juncture, say just after the subject. The construction becomes a complex sentence involving a sub-clause and a main clause with the two given verbs smugly fitting in their own subjects The other way is to convert it into a compound sentence with the introduction of an appropriate co-ordinate conjunction such as and, but etc; 1. The amended sentence will read as: "X" once conducted operations from mining at one end of the process to shipping at the other, but have/ has greatly downsized, or in some cases shut down altogether. Now you may see that the second verb have /has downsized can take X as the subject and only for the sake of brevity, it is elliptical.
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Re: The steel industry has changed radically over the last two [#permalink]
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I still did not understand what is wrong with option C.
Is it that with requires a -ing form?
Experts please help!
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anilisanil wrote: I still did not understand what is wrong with option C.
Is it that with requires a -ing form?
Experts please help! The steel industry has changed radically over the last two decades, as large, integrated companies such as Bethlehem Steel once conducted operations from mining at one end of the process to shipping at the other have greatly downsized, or in some cases shut down altogether. C. with large, integrated companies, such as Bethlehem Steel, that "With" does not require an ing form. "with" is wrong compared to "as" because with cannot introduce a sentence here. " with large, integrated companies (...) once conducted" is wrong " as large, integrated companies (...) once conducted" is correct Hope it's clear, let me know
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Zarrolou wrote: anilisanil wrote: I still did not understand what is wrong with option C.
Is it that with requires a -ing form?
Experts please help! The steel industry has changed radically over the last two decades, as large, integrated companies such as Bethlehem Steel once conducted operations from mining at one end of the process to shipping at the other have greatly downsized, or in some cases shut down altogether. C. with large, integrated companies, such as Bethlehem Steel, that "With" does not require an ing form. "with" is wrong compared to "as" because with cannot introduce a sentence here. " with large, integrated companies (...) once conducted" is wrong " as large, integrated companies (...) once conducted" is correct Hope it's clear, let me know With cannot introduce a sentence in this case or in general? What is wrong with this sentence: The steel industry has changed radically over the last two decades, with large, integrated companies such as Bethlehem Steel once conducted operations from mining at one end of the process to shipping at the other greatly downsizing, or in some cases shutting down altogether.
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anilisanil wrote: With cannot introduce a sentence in this case or in general?
What is wrong with this sentence: The steel industry has changed radically over the last two decades, with large, integrated
companies such as Bethlehem Steel once conducted operations from mining at one
end of the process to shipping at the other greatly downsizing, or in some cases
shutting down altogether. In this case we cannot use "with". Your sentence: The steel industry has changed radically over the last two decades, with large, integrated companies such as Bethlehem Steel once conducted operations from mining at one end of the process to shipping at the other greatly downsizing, or in some cases shutting down altogether. You cannot use "with" as I explained above. "mining " is parallel to "shipping " because they refer to the same concept : the once conducted operations from ... to. "Downsize" refer to the companies and must be parallel to "Shut", but you cannot use an ING form just because the preciding verbs use it. Those verbs express an action that started in the past and continues in the present => Present Perfect Let me know if you have doubts
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