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The subsets of the set {s, t, u} consisting of the three elements s, t, and u are {s}, {t}, {u}, {s, t}, {s, u}, {t, u}, {s, t, u}, and the empty set { }. How many different subsets of the set {s, t, u, w, x} do not contain t as an element?

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D. 15
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Re: The subsets of the set {s, t, u} consisting of the three [#permalink] New post 27 Nov 2012, 02:02
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The subsets of the set {s, t, u} consisting of the three elements s, t, and u are {s}, {t}, {u}, {s, t}, {s, u}, {t, u}, {s, t, u}, and the empty set { }. How many different subsets of the set {s, t, u, w, x} do not contain t as an element?

A. 4
B. 7
C. 8
D. 15
E. 16


Consider the set without t: {s, u, w, x}. Each subset of this set will be subset of the original set but without t.

# of subsets of {s, u, w, x} is 2^4=16 (each out of 4 element of the set {s, u, w, x} has TWO options: either to be included in the subset or not, so total # of subsets is 2^4=16).

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Re: The subsets of the set {s, t, u} consisting of the three [#permalink] New post 29 Nov 2012, 00:52
Bunuel wrote:
saxenarahul021 wrote:
The subsets of the set {s, t, u} consisting of the three elements s, t, and u are {s}, {t}, {u}, {s, t}, {s, u}, {t, u}, {s, t, u}, and the empty set { }. How many different subsets of the set {s, t, u, w, x} do not contain t as an element?

A. 4
B. 7
C. 8
D. 15
E. 16


Consider the set without t: {s, u, w, x}. Each subset of this set will be subset of the original set but without t.

# of subsets of {s, u, w, x} is 2^4=16 (each out of 4 element of the set {s, u, w, x} has TWO options: either to be included in the subset or not, so total # of subsets is 2^4=16).

Answer: E.


I am a little bit confused by your solution can you please clarify.
I agree we need to find out how many subsets are possible without t, so 4 letter could have 1 set ({SUWX} 4!/4!=1), 3 letters could have 4 sets (4!/3!=4), 2 letters could have 6 sets (4!/2!x2!=6), and 1 letter could have 4 sets. So overall 15 sets and the answer is D. Where did i go wrong?
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Re: The subsets of the set {s, t, u} consisting of the three [#permalink] New post 29 Nov 2012, 01:59
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Bunuel wrote:
saxenarahul021 wrote:
The subsets of the set {s, t, u} consisting of the three elements s, t, and u are {s}, {t}, {u}, {s, t}, {s, u}, {t, u}, {s, t, u}, and the empty set { }. How many different subsets of the set {s, t, u, w, x} do not contain t as an element?

A. 4
B. 7
C. 8
D. 15
E. 16


Consider the set without t: {s, u, w, x}. Each subset of this set will be subset of the original set but without t.

# of subsets of {s, u, w, x} is 2^4=16 (each out of 4 element of the set {s, u, w, x} has TWO options: either to be included in the subset or not, so total # of subsets is 2^4=16).

Answer: E.


I am a little bit confused by your solution can you please clarify.
I agree we need to find out how many subsets are possible without t, so 4 letter could have 1 set ({SUWX} 4!/4!=1), 3 letters could have 4 sets (4!/3!=4), 2 letters could have 6 sets (4!/2!x2!=6), and 1 letter could have 4 sets. So overall 15 sets and the answer is D. Where did i go wrong?


You are forgetting an empty set, which is also a subset of {s, u, w, x} and do not contain t.
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Re: The subsets of the set {s, t, u} consisting of the three [#permalink] New post 29 Nov 2012, 04:58
I am a little bit confused by your solution can you please clarify.
I agree we need to find out how many subsets are possible without t, so 4 letter could have 1 set ({SUWX} 4!/4!=1), 3 letters could have 4 sets (4!/3!=4), 2 letters could have 6 sets (4!/2!x2!=6), and 1 letter could have 4 sets. So overall 15 sets and the answer is D. Where did i go wrong?[/quote]

You are forgetting an empty set, which is also a subset of {s, u, w, x} and do not contain t.[/quote]


Thanks Bunuel, i got it, but do you think the way of thinking was correct?
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Re: The subsets of the set {s, t, u} consisting of the three [#permalink] New post 29 Nov 2012, 07:27
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Thanks Bunuel, i got it, but do you think the way of thinking was correct?


Yes, your approach is correct:
# of subsets with 4 elements is 1: C^4_4=1;
# of subsets with 3 elements is 4: C^3_4=4;
# of subsets with 2 elements is 6: C^2_4=6;
# of subsets with 1 elements is 4: C^1_4=4;
plus 1 empty set.

1+4+6+4+1=16.
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Re: The subsets of the set {s, t, u} consisting of the three [#permalink] New post 12 May 2014, 13:22
saxenarahul021 wrote:
The subsets of the set {s, t, u} consisting of the three elements s, t, and u are {s}, {t}, {u}, {s, t}, {s, u}, {t, u}, {s, t, u}, and the empty set { }. How many different subsets of the set {s, t, u, w, x} do not contain t as an element?

A. 4
B. 7
C. 8
D. 15
E. 16


I thought that the formula for number of subsets for n elements was 2^n -1

Can anybody explain why this formula does not apply in this case?

Thanks!
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Re: The subsets of the set {s, t, u} consisting of the three [#permalink] New post 13 May 2014, 00:03
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The subsets of the set {s, t, u} consisting of the three elements s, t, and u are {s}, {t}, {u}, {s, t}, {s, u}, {t, u}, {s, t, u}, and the empty set { }. How many different subsets of the set {s, t, u, w, x} do not contain t as an element?

A. 4
B. 7
C. 8
D. 15
E. 16


I thought that the formula for number of subsets for n elements was 2^n -1

Can anybody explain why this formula does not apply in this case?

Thanks!
Cheers
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