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# The suicide wave that followed the United States stock

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The “suicide wave” that followed the United States stock market crash of October 1929 is more legend than fact. Careful examination of the monthly figures on the causes of death in 1929 shows that the number of suicides in October and in November was comparatively low. In only three other months were the monthly figures lower. During the summer months, when the stock market was flourishing, the number of suicides was substantially higher.

Which one of the following, if true, would best challenge the conclusion of the passage?
(A) The suicide rate is influenced by many psychological, interpersonal, and societal factors during any given historical period.
(B) October and November have almost always had relatively high suicide rates, even during the 1920s and 1930s.
(C) The suicide rate in October and November of 1929 was considerably higher than the average for those months during several preceding and following years.
(D) During the years surrounding the stock market crash, suicide rates were typically lower at the beginning of any calendar year than toward the end of that year.
(E) Because of seasonal differences, the number of suicides in October and November of 1929 would not be expected to be the same as those for other months.
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The “suicide wave” that followed the United States stock market crash of October 1929 is more legend than fact. Careful examination of the monthly figures on the causes of death in 1929 shows that the number of suicides in October and in November was comparatively low. In only three other months were the monthly figures lower. During the summer months, when the stock market was flourishing, the number of suicides was substantially higher.

Which one of the following, if true, would best challenge the conclusion of the passage?
(A) The suicide rate is influenced by many psychological, interpersonal, and societal factors during any given historical period.
(B) October and November have almost always had relatively high suicide rates, even during the 1920s and 1930s.
(C) The suicide rate in October and November of 1929 was considerably higher than the average for those months during several preceding and following years.
(D) During the years surrounding the stock market crash, suicide rates were typically lower at the beginning of any calendar year than toward the end of that year.
(E) Because of seasonal differences, the number of suicides in October and November of 1929 would not be expected to be the same as those for other months.

Conclusion: The “suicide wave” that followed the United States stock market crash of October 1929 is more legend than fact.

This is good one.. Little tricky one.

Definitely Answer between C and E. Other choices are stengthening the argument.

Choice E:
Premise : Careful examination of the monthly figures on the causes of death in 1929 shows that the number of suicides
in October and in November was comparatively low .In only three other months were the monthly figures lower.

From the above premise Author assume that "All seasons/months will have same sucide rate - If there is no other factors." .

Choice E is Attacking this hole, But ask questions to yourself?? Is this affecting final Conclusion. (May be or May not) we are not sure.. This is not addressing Oct 1929 is lengend or fact.

Choice C :
Suice Rate in Oct and Nov of 1929 considerable high. So this is fact. This clearly undermines the Conclusion.

So C is the best answer.
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gurpreet07 wrote:
The “suicide wave” that followed the United States stock market crash of October 1929 is more legend than fact. Careful examination of the monthly figures on the causes of death in 1929 shows that the number of suicides in October and in November was comparatively low. In only three other months were the monthly figures lower. During the summer months, when the stock market was flourishing, the number of suicides was substantially higher.

Which one of the following, if true, would best challenge the conclusion of the passage?
(A) The suicide rate is influenced by many psychological, interpersonal, and societal factors during any given historical period.
(B) October and November have almost always had relatively high suicide rates, even during the 1920s and 1930s.
(C) The suicide rate in October and November of 1929 was considerably higher than the average for those months during several preceding and following years.
(D) During the years surrounding the stock market crash, suicide rates were typically lower at the beginning of any calendar year than toward the end of that year.
(E) Because of seasonal differences, the number of suicides in October and November of 1929 would not be expected to be the same as those for other months.

Conclusion: The “suicide wave” that followed the United States stock market crash of October 1929 is more legend than fact.

This is good one.. Little tricky one.

Definitely Answer between C and E. Other choices are stengthening the argument.

Choice E:
Premise : Careful examination of the monthly figures on the causes of death in 1929 shows that the number of suicides
in October and in November was comparatively low .In only three other months were the monthly figures lower.

From the above premise Author assume that "All seasons/months will have same sucide rate - If there is no other factors." .

Choice E is Attacking this hole, But ask questions to yourself?? Is this affecting final Conclusion. (May be or May not) we are not sure.. This is not addressing Oct 1929 is lengend or fact.

Choice C :
Suice Rate in Oct and Nov of 1929 considerable high. So this is fact. This clearly undermines the Conclusion.

So C is the best answer.

I actually marked D
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16 Nov 2009, 13:41
gurpreet07 wrote:

I actually marked D

According to D:
Typical case
Jan -> Dec (Suicide rate increasing )
So Rate of Oct or Nov > 9 months (Jan-Sep)
Premise says in 1929: October and in November was comparatively low. In only three other months were the monthly figures lower.
That means.. Oct, Nov rates are even lower than usual... Thant means.. Sucide rates are decreased.. So, conclusion is Legend and not a fact.
This strengthens the argument.
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17 Nov 2009, 05:16
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I actually marked D

IMO the argument talks of "“suicide wave” that followed the United States stock market crash of October 1929” Choice D talks of “years surrounding the stock market crash” and not on what has happened in 1929. Hence has no bearing on the argument
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17 Nov 2009, 10:15
I'm gonna go with C.
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17 Nov 2009, 13:01
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17 Nov 2009, 17:20
Agree with C
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17 Nov 2009, 19:06
IMO c....
The suicide rate in October and November of 1929 was considerably higher than the average for those months during several preceding and following years...this means it was not a legend but a fact that suicide rate was higher
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17 Nov 2009, 20:26
I have already supplied the OA.......
but still its C
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gurpreet07 wrote:
The “suicide wave” that followed the United States stock market crash of October 1929 is more legend than fact. Careful examination of the monthly figures on the causes of death in 1929 shows that the number of suicides in October and in November was comparatively low. In only three other months were the monthly figures lower. During the summer months, when the stock market was flourishing, the number of suicides was substantially higher.

Which one of the following, if true, would best challenge the conclusion of the passage?
(A) The suicide rate is influenced by many psychological, interpersonal, and societal factors during any given historical period.
(B) October and November have almost always had relatively high suicide rates, even during the 1920s and 1930s.
(C) The suicide rate in October and November of 1929 was considerably higher than the average for those months during several preceding and following years.
(D) During the years surrounding the stock market crash, suicide rates were typically lower at the beginning of any calendar year than toward the end of that year.
(E) Because of seasonal differences, the number of suicides in October and November of 1929 would not be expected to be the same as those for other months.

I did not understand how option C weakens the conclusion - "the “suicide wave” that followed the United States stock market crash of October 1929 is more legend than fact"

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gurpreet07 wrote:
The “suicide wave” that followed the United States stock market crash of October 1929 is more legend than fact. Careful examination of the monthly figures on the causes of death in 1929 shows that the number of suicides in October and in November was comparatively low. In only three other months were the monthly figures lower. During the summer months, when the stock market was flourishing, the number of suicides was substantially higher.

Which one of the following, if true, would best challenge the conclusion of the passage?
(A) The suicide rate is influenced by many psychological, interpersonal, and societal factors during any given historical period.
(B) October and November have almost always had relatively high suicide rates, even during the 1920s and 1930s.
(C) The suicide rate in October and November of 1929 was considerably higher than the average for those months during several preceding and following years.
(D) During the years surrounding the stock market crash, suicide rates were typically lower at the beginning of any calendar year than toward the end of that year.
(E) Because of seasonal differences, the number of suicides in October and November of 1929 would not be expected to be the same as those for other months.

I did not understand how option C weakens the conclusion - "the “suicide wave” that followed the United States stock market crash of October 1929 is more legend than fact"

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Hi,

first what is the conclusion- The suicide shock wave is MORE of a legend than a fact..
Premise to support that- In that year, after the crash, the Oct and Nov data was comparatively lower than OTHER months of THAT year. And ONLY 3 other months in that year were lower than these TWO months.

what is C?
(C) The suicide rate in October and November of 1929 was considerably higher than the average for those months during several preceding and following years.

what does it tell us?
the numbers may be lower as compared to other months BUT the numbers were much higher than IS usual for these months..
There may be some reasons why certain months may have a tendency to have higher suicide rate than other months of same year. reason could be related to season of harvesting, financial year closure , disease prone monthsleading to loss of near ones etc..
SO C shows this flaw in reasoning of CONCLUSION
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