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I spent some time on this question, got stuck and could not move towards a solution - Should not the sum of the digits of the number [(10^x)^y - 64] be a multiple of 9. Please clarify if the question formed the way it is now is the best way. I think I have misinterpreted something here. _________________

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I spent some time on this question, got stuck and could not move towards a solution - Should not the sum of the digits of the number [(10^x)^y - 64] be a multiple of 9. Please clarify if the question formed the way it is now is the best way. I think I have misinterpreted something here.

Well, It is a multiple of 9. How will you arrive at xy with that approach?

Try finding patterns. (thats the clue) _________________

I've failed over and over and over again in my life and that is why I succeed--Michael Jordan Kudos drives a person to better himself every single time. So Pls give it generously Wont give up till i hit a 700+

I spent some time on this question, got stuck and could not move towards a solution - Should not the sum of the digits of the number [(10^x)^y - 64] be a multiple of 9. Please clarify if the question formed the way it is now is the best way. I think I have misinterpreted something here.

Well, simple reason is that the question is incorrect.

rajathpanta wrote:

Well, It is a multiple of 9. How will you arrive at xy with that approach?

Try finding patterns. (thats the clue)

Question is: 10^xy -64 = N, where sum of digits of N=79

The pattern is like this:

100 -64 = 36 1000 -64 = 936 10000 -64 =9936

or, 1 followed by (n times 0) = (n-2)times 9 followed by 36

Therefore sumof digits on right side is always a multiple of 9 [9s and 6+3 =9]

However in question stem RHS is 79, which is not divisible by 9. And therefore you can not arrive at any of the answer choices given.

Rajathpanta- on a lighter note - if this too is from Aristotle, I'd suggest please change the source of questions. :D

I spent some time on this question, got stuck and could not move towards a solution - Should not the sum of the digits of the number [(10^x)^y - 64] be a multiple of 9. Please clarify if the question formed the way it is now is the best way. I think I have misinterpreted something here.

Well, simple reason is that the question is incorrect.

rajathpanta wrote:

Well, It is a multiple of 9. How will you arrive at xy with that approach?

Try finding patterns. (thats the clue)

Question is: 10^xy -64 = N, where sum of digits of N=79

The pattern is like this:

100 -64 = 36 1000 -64 = 936 10000 -64 =9936

or, 1 followed by (n times 0) = (n-2)times 9 followed by 36

Therefore sumof digits on right side is always a multiple of 9 [9s and 6+3 =9]

However in question stem RHS is 79, which is not divisible by 9. And therefore you can not arrive at any of the answer choices given.

Rajathpanta- on a lighter note - if this too is from Aristotle, I'd suggest please change the source of questions. :D

I've failed over and over and over again in my life and that is why I succeed--Michael Jordan Kudos drives a person to better himself every single time. So Pls give it generously Wont give up till i hit a 700+

I spent some time on this question, got stuck and could not move towards a solution - Should not the sum of the digits of the number [(10^x)^y - 64] be a multiple of 9. Please clarify if the question formed the way it is now is the best way. I think I have misinterpreted something here.

Well, simple reason is that the question is incorrect.

rajathpanta wrote:

Well, It is a multiple of 9. How will you arrive at xy with that approach?

Try finding patterns. (thats the clue)

Question is: 10^xy -64 = N, where sum of digits of N=79

The pattern is like this:

100 -64 = 36 1000 -64 = 936 10000 -64 =9936

or, 1 followed by (n times 0) = (n-2)times 9 followed by 36

Therefore sumof digits on right side is always a multiple of 9 [9s and 6+3 =9]

However in question stem RHS is 79, which is not divisible by 9. And therefore you can not arrive at any of the answer choices given.

Rajathpanta- on a lighter note - if this too is from Aristotle, I'd suggest please change the source of questions. :D

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The sum of the digits of [(10^x)^y]-64=79. What is the value of xy

A. 28 B. 29 C. 30 D. 31 E. 32

The question should read: The sum of the digits of [(10^x)^y]-64=279. What is the value of xy

A. 28 B. 29 C. 30 D. 31 E. 32

Also, it should be mentioned that xy is a positive integers.

First of all \((10^x)^y=10^{xy}\).

\(10^{xy}\) has \(xy+1\) digits: 1 and \(xy\) zeros. For example: 10^2=100 --> 3 digits: 1 and 2 zeros;

\(10^{xy}-64\) will have \(xy\) digits: \(xy-2\) 9's and 36 in the and. For example: 10^4-49=10,000-49=9,951 --> 4 digits: 4-2=two 9's and 51 in the end;

We are told that the sum of all the digits of \(10^{xy}-64\) is 279 --> \(9(xy-2)+3+6=279\) --> \(9(xy-2)=270\) --> \(xy=32\).

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Question is \((10^x)^y - 64\) . Let say \((10^x)^y\) as Number1 Say Number1 - 64 = Number2 ==> 100 - 64 = 36 [ Number1: No. of zeroes = 2 , Number2: No. of 9's = zero ] and Sum of digits of Number 2 : 9*0 + (3+6) = 1*9 = 9 1000 - 64 = 936 [ Number1: No. of zeroes = 3 , Number2: No. of 9's = 1] and Sum of digits of Number 2 : 9*1 + (3+6) = 9 + 9 = 2*9 = 18 10000 - 64 = 9936 [ Number1: No. of zeroes = 4 , Number2: No. of 9's = 2] and Sum of digits of Number 2 : 9*2 + (3+6) = 18 + 9 = 3*9= 27 100000 - 64 = 99936 [ Number1: No. of zeroes = 5 , Number2: No. of 9's = 3] and Sum of digits of Number 2 : 9*3 + (3+6) = 27 + 9 =4*9= 36

so lets go from right to left for the sum of digits of number2 i.e given as 279 so 279 = 31*9 = 9*30 + (3+6) => Number2: Number of 9's = 30 ==> Number1: Number of zeros = 32

So the Number1 i.e. \((10^x)^y = 10000.....(32 zeroes)\)

Now, as we now, \(10^1\) = 10 (1 zero) \(10^2\) = 100 (2 zeroes) \(10^3\) = 1000 (3 zeroes)

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Hi Bunuel,

Could you please xplain the last bit oft he equations which takes us to a 279?

Thanks

quote="Bunuel"]

rajathpanta wrote:

The sum of the digits of [(10^x)^y]-64=79. What is the value of xy

A. 28 B. 29 C. 30 D. 31 E. 32

The question should read: The sum of the digits of [(10^x)^y]-64=279. What is the value of xy

A. 28 B. 29 C. 30 D. 31 E. 32

Also, it should be mentioned that xy is a positive integers.

First of all \((10^x)^y=10^{xy}\).

\(10^{xy}\) has \(xy+1\) digits: 1 and \(xy\) zeros. For example: 10^2=100 --> 3 digits: 1 and 2 zeros;

\(10^{xy}-64\) will have \(xy\) digits: \(xy-2\) 9's and 36 in the and. For example: 10^4-49=10,000-49=9,951 --> 4 digits: 4-2=two 9's and 51 in the end;

We are told that the sum of all the digits of \(10^{xy}-64\) is 279 --> \(9(xy-2)+3+6=279\) --> \(9(xy-2)=270\) --> \(xy=32\).

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Hi Bunuel,

Could you please xplain the last bit oft he equations which takes us to a 279?

Thanks

quote="Bunuel"]

rajathpanta wrote:

The sum of the digits of [(10^x)^y]-64=79. What is the value of xy

A. 28 B. 29 C. 30 D. 31 E. 32

The question should read: The sum of the digits of [(10^x)^y]-64=279. What is the value of xy

A. 28 B. 29 C. 30 D. 31 E. 32

Also, it should be mentioned that xy is a positive integers.

First of all \((10^x)^y=10^{xy}\).

\(10^{xy}\) has \(xy+1\) digits: 1 and \(xy\) zeros. For example: 10^2=100 --> 3 digits: 1 and 2 zeros;

\(10^{xy}-64\) will have \(xy\) digits: \(xy-2\) 9's and 36 in the and. For example: 10^4-49=10,000-49=9,951 --> 4 digits: 4-2=two 9's and 51 in the end;

We are told that the sum of all the digits of \(10^{xy}-64\) is 279 --> \(9(xy-2)+3+6=279\) --> \(9(xy-2)=270\) --> \(xy=32\).

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The sum of the digits of [(10^x)^y]-64=279. What is the value of xy ?

A. 28 B. 29 C. 30 D. 31 E. 32

Sum of the digits of (10^x)^y - 64 = 279.

We know that (X^a)^b = X^(ab)

Thus, the given form becomes = 10^(xy) - 64.

Now start with xy=2, 10^2 - 64 = 36, sum of the digits = 6+3=9 (realize that the sum of digits is 9*(xy-1)) xy=3 ---> 1000-64=936 = 18 (realize that the sum of digits is 9*(xy-1)) xy=4 ---> 10000-64=9936 = 27 (realize that the sum of digits is 9*(xy-1)) xy=5 ---> 100000-64 = 99936 (realize that the sum of digits is 9*(xy-1))... etc so this is your pattern. The sum of the digits = 9*(xy-1)

Now sum of the digits given = 279.

Thus, based on the pattern above, the sum of the digits must be ---> 9*(xy-1) = 279 ---> xy = 32.

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gosh..the structure of the question is hideous... i solved it this way.. the sum is 279. the last 2 digits must be 3 and 6, or 9. so the rest will be a bunch of 9's. how many 9's? 30. now, 30 of nines + 36 -> 32 digits +1 since we need to round up - 33 in total, we thus must have 10^32.

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