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E for me.
Assuming there is an apostrophe (industry's)
A,B,C - The United States petroleum industry's cost
industry's cost incorrectly implies that it is the cost of the industry. But it is cost to the industry.
D has a misplaced modifier problem.
E is fine. ( Though I have mixed feelings about the Cost to ....industry of meeting) {industry of meeting??}
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Why is "estimated at" unidiomatic? Its used all the time!? I mean surely the GMAT can't have a problem with "estimated at" or "projected at"? Is "estimated/projected at" grammatically wrong?

The direct economic value the Internet provides to the rest of the U.S. economy is estimated at $175 billion. https://hbswk.hbs.edu/item/6268.html

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Why is "estimated at" unidiomatic? Its used all the time!? I mean surely the GMAT can't have a problem with "estimated at" or "projected at"? Is "estimated/projected at" grammatically wrong?

The direct economic value the Internet provides to the rest of the U.S. economy is estimated at $175 billion. https://hbswk.hbs.edu/item/6268.html

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Hi,

when you're talking about the present, "estimated at" is fine; when you're projecting to the future, "estimated to be" (or, even better, changing the sentence to use the future "will be") is correct.

For idioms, it's all about what the GMAT considers correct - that's the "fun" thing about idioms, there are no rules, it's just what "is" correct.
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its quiet straight forward question. as petroleum industry has to meet the regulation but not the industry's cost. hence the answer E is correct. pls correct me if i am wrong.
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tirupatibalaji wrote:
its quiet straight forward question. as petroleum industry has to meet the regulation but not the industry's cost. hence the answer E is correct. pls correct me if i am wrong.


After further review, you can certainly arrive at the answer in under 60 seconds:
(1) If you identify the improper idioms "estimated at" & "projected at"

(2) You have a firm grasp of the concept of possessives. Possessive cases (- ‘s) is used only with the names of living things.

We don't say:
Table's legs...
Industry's cost...

We say:
Legs of the table...
Cost to the industry...
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tirupatibalaji wrote:
We don't say:
Table's legs...
Industry's cost...

We say:
Legs of the table...
Cost to the industry...


Actually, it's perfectly OK to use possessives with inanimate objects (or even intangibles).

"The table's legs are uneven", "the industry's costs are high this year" and "the plan's advantages are clear" are all well constructed sentences.
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When GMAC’s psychometrician remarked about removing the idioms from the database, he must have certainly meant including this one. However, I got interested in this because the title said it is a tough modifier problem. Which modifier?
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E for me.

(A) The United States petroleum industry’s cost to meet environmental regulations is projected at ten percent of the price per barrel of refined petroleum by the end of the decade.
(B) The United States petroleum industry’s cost by the end of the decade to meet environmental regulations is estimated at ten percent of the price per barrel of refined petroleum.
(C) By the end of the decade, the United States petroleum industry’s cost of meeting environmental regulations is projected at ten percent of the price per barrel of refined petroleum.========
(D) To meet environmental regulations, the cost to the United States petroleum industry is estimated at ten percent of the price per barrel of refined petroleum by the end of the decade.
(E) It is estimated that by the end of the decade the cost to the United States petroleum industry of meeting environmental regulations will be ten percent of the price per barrel of refined petroleum.

I think for A and B the "end of the decade" is poorly positioned and does not clearly link to the objective.
C I believe is an incorrect idiom, D same as A.

E sounded most fluid.

More experienced sentence correction peeps can chime in with better reasons why A-D wont work.
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Seeing a fresh request for an expert reply here... but Verbal Bot is the only one who has posted in the past 5 years, and I don't think that Mr. or Ms. Bot made the request. If you have a specific question, please let us know! Otherwise, please refer to some of the excellent explanations above.
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Seeing a fresh request for an expert reply here... but Verbal Bot is the only one who has posted in the past 5 years, and I don't think that Mr. or Ms. Bot made the request. If you have a specific question, please let us know! Otherwise, please refer to some of the excellent explanations above.


I think the Verbal Bot had an intuition that I'd have a query on this question.

Q1) What is this question testing?
The only thing I could point to during my quick scan is 'by the end of the decade' is moving around implying whatever this prepositional phrase is modifying should make sense.

Q2) How can we eliminate answer choices in this Q?
I got the right answer - E - by using my ear => eliminating bad sounding answer choices, and I do not want to rely on my ear as I know how GMAC plays with people's ear to get you to choose the wrong answer.

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I think it's petroleum industry to meet environmental regulations

not the cost to meet environmental regulations
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The United States petroleum industry’s cost to meet environmental regulations is projected at ten percent of the price per barrel of refined petroleum by the end of the decade.

(A) The United States petroleum industry’s cost to meet environmental regulations is projected at ten percent of the price per barrel of refined petroleum by the end of the decade.

(B) The United States petroleum industry’s cost by the end of the decade to meet environmental regulations is estimated at ten percent of the price per barrel of refined petroleum.

(C) By the end of the decade, the United States petroleum industry’s cost of meeting environmental regulations is projected at ten percent of the price per barrel of refined petroleum.

(D) To meet environmental regulations, the cost to the United States petroleum industry is estimated at ten percent of the price per barrel of refined petroleum by the end of the decade.

(E) It is estimated that by the end of the decade the cost to the United States petroleum industry of meeting environmental regulations will be ten percent of the price per barrel of refined petroleum.

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i read somwhere in your post that for estimations we donot use will , may ,could etc is better so how is E correct here ?
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i read somwhere in your post that for estimations we donot use will , may ,could etc is better so how is E correct here ?

Did I say estimation togther with ' will ' are wrong? I might have only said that estimation along with 'could' or 'may" will be better. If in case, we do not have such a choice, as in this example, what do we do?
That is the reason one must not read in between the line out of context.

Originally posted by daagh on 16 Sep 2019, 09:24.
Last edited by daagh on 21 Oct 2019, 08:19, edited 2 times in total.
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When GMAC’s psychometrician remarked about removing the idioms from the database, he must have certainly meant including this one. However, I got interested in this because the title said it is a tough modifier problem. Which modifier?


Hi daagh,

Can you pls explain the options ?

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Dillesh, is there any need to explain the choices? Choices A through D are merrily using bad idioms such as "estimated at" and projected at". One cannot predict, project, or estimate a future quantum with a precise "at". They can only be approximations. That is the reason I would reject those choices wholesale, and go for E in the hall.

If you want to delve deeper, you might say that A and E are wrong for placing the phrase 'by the end of the decade' away from the cost, which the phrase is supposed to modify. C is also wrong in giving a dubious meaning that the entire projection will be done at the end of the decade rather than now. B is ok except for the idiomatic goof-up but would settle for E as the best of the lot.

The danger in the latter approach is that one might go wrong more often than not, if one is under time pressure, and thus drag down other questions too.

This is my straight opinion about this question.
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This sentence has idiom error, tense error and misplaced modifier..
A is incorrect because it has ' projected at' and ' by the end of the decade ' is misplaced
B is incorrect as it says ' by the end of the decade to meet...' which is awkward. Also, estimated at is incorrect...not idiomatic
C is incorrect because' projected at' is incorrect..
D is incorrect as ' refined petroleum by the end of the decade' sounds awkward...by the end of the decade is misplaced here
E is perfect as it says ' estimated that....it will be' indicating correctly that it is a projection for future...perfect construction

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The United States petroleum industry’s cost to meet environmental regulations is projected at ten percent of the price per barrel of refined petroleum by the end of the decade.

Meaning: by the end of the decade, the cost to the US petro industry of meeting regulation is estimated at 10 percent of the price per barrel of refined petro. The correct structure is cost to somebody of doing something

(A) The United States petroleum industry’s cost to meet environmental regulations is projected at ten percent of the price per barrel of refined petroleum by the end of the decade. Wrong in meaning. Cost to US petro, not US petro's cost

(B) The United States petroleum industry’s cost by the end of the decade to meet environmental regulations is estimated at ten percent of the price per barrel of refined petroleum. Wrong in meaning. Cost to US petro, not US petro's cost

(C) By the end of the decade, the United States petroleum industry’s cost of meeting environmental regulations is projected at ten percent of the price per barrel of refined petroleum. Wrong in meaning. Cost to US petro, not US petro's cost

(D) To meet environmental regulations, the cost to the United States petroleum industry is estimated at ten percent of the price per barrel of refined petroleum by the end of the decade. "refined petro by the end of the decade" makes no sense. By the end of the decade should modify the whole clause, not only refined petroleum

(E) It is estimated that by the end of the decade the cost to the United States petroleum industry of meeting environmental regulations will be ten percent of the price per barrel of refined petroleum. Good. Meaning is OK. Structure of cost is ok
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