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Re: The use of lie detectors is based on the assumption that [#permalink] New post 05 Sep 2012, 22:43
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a. correct
b. singular verb 'creates' is wrong
c. missing comma before creating
d. to create - wrong usage
e. use of who is wrong



Hey GetThisDone

Is missing comma before creating the only reason for rejecting C.if it had a comma before creating would it be the right option
I am trying to understand -ing as a modifier vs that as a modifier

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Re: OG12 SC: Lie detectors [#permalink] New post 27 Apr 2013, 08:46
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A it is. Emotional reactions in an individual that - here emotional reactions is followed by a prepositional phrase so that will not modify the noun in prepositional phrase but will modify whatever comes before prepositional phrase.


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Where can I get more detail on this rule?

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Re: OG12 SC: Lie detectors [#permalink] New post 28 Apr 2013, 00:22
I just want to correct this question to eliminate confusion between A and B. The correct version of B is: that creates unconscious physiological responses in turn.

Hence, the revised question is:

The use of lie detectors is based on the assumption that lying produces emotional reactions in an individual that, in turn, create unconscious physiological response.
A) that, in turn, create unconscious physiological responses.
B) that creates unconscious physiological responses in turn.
C) creating, in turn, unconscious physiological responses.
D) to create, in turn, physiological responses that are unconscious.
E) who creates unconscious physiological responses in turn.

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Re: OG12 SC: Lie detectors [#permalink] New post 28 Apr 2013, 00:29
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A it is. Emotional reactions in an individual that - here emotional reactions is followed by a prepositional phrase so that will not modify the noun in prepositional phrase but will modify whatever comes before prepositional phrase.


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In general, noun modifiers must touch their noun. For example:
I'm fixing my car behind the house that was constructed in 1990.
Wall is followed by a prepositional phrase, but THAT modifies the house, not my car because of the TOUCH rule.

But this question is an exception. This is OG Explanation:-- This sentence describes a cause-and-effect sequence; in the underlined portion of the sentence, the relative pronoun that refers to the plural noun reactions. The verb in the relative clause must therefore be a plural verb.

Hence, A is correct.

Hope it clears your doubt.
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Re: OG12 SC: Lie detectors [#permalink] New post 29 Apr 2013, 01:42
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getmba wrote:
A it is. Emotional reactions in an individual that - here emotional reactions is followed by a prepositional phrase so that will not modify the noun in prepositional phrase but will modify whatever comes before prepositional phrase.


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In general, noun modifiers must touch their noun. For example:
I'm fixing my car behind the house that was constructed in 1990.
Wall is followed by a prepositional phrase, but THAT modifies the house, not my car because of the TOUCH rule.

But this question is an exception. This is OG Explanation:-- This sentence describes a cause-and-effect sequence; in the underlined portion of the sentence, the relative pronoun that refers to the plural noun reactions. The verb in the relative clause must therefore be a plural verb.

Hence, A is correct.

Hope it clears your doubt.



Thanks for your help.

But I am still looking for theory behind this exception.

I'm fixing my car behind the wall of the house that was constructed in 1990.

here that will point to the house since it is not cause-and-effect sequence( correct me if I am wrong)

but not for the mentioned question.
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Re: The use of lie detectors is based on the assumption that [#permalink] New post 29 Apr 2013, 01:57
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Hi,

The difference in the current sentence is there is a 'prepositional phrase'

'in an individual'

this means that this part can be taken as a whole 'emotional response in an individual' - and the 'that' refers to the whole phrase.

To use your example to show how this works:

I'm fixing my car behind the wall of the house on the hill that was constructed in 1990.

The phrase in italics is the prepositional phrase, but it's clear that the 'that' refers to 'the house on the hill' so still makes sense...

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Re: The use of lie detectors is based on the assumption that [#permalink] New post 29 Apr 2013, 02:02
Thanks Plumber..

This does make sense..
So this doesn't has anything to do with "cause-and-effect sequence"
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Re: The use of lie detectors is based on the assumption that [#permalink] New post 29 Apr 2013, 02:40
Remember that on the GMAT "that" can never modify people. It can according to other authorities.
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The use of lie detectors is based on the assumption that lying produces emotional reactions in an individual that, in turn, create unconscious physiological response.
A) that, in turn, create unconscious physiological responses.
B) that create unconscious physiological responses in turn.
C) creating, in turn, unconscious physiological responses.
D) to create, in turn, physiological responses that are unconscious.
E) who creates unconscious physiological responses in turn.

Please can some one explain why is that referring to reactions and not individual ?
Doesn't that refer to the imediate preceding noun ?

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Re: The use of lie detectors is based on the [#permalink] New post 04 Sep 2014, 03:13
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Please can some one explain why is that referring to reactions and not individual ?
Doesn't that refer to the imediate preceding noun ?

Three reasons:
i) that cannot refer to people (for the most part, that can only refer to non-living things)
ii) If that refers to individual, then the verb would be creates (and not create), though one could argue that there is a Subject-verb disagreement in the original sentence
iii) Logically, it is the emotional reactions (and not individual) that creates unconscious physiological response.

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Re: The use of lie detectors is based on the assumption that [#permalink] New post 03 Nov 2014, 06:35
But I don't understand why "that" is referring to a plural precedent "emotional reactions"?

Since it is a correct answer from official guide, what am I missing in understanding?
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Re: The use of lie detectors is based on the assumption that [#permalink] New post 10 Jan 2015, 06:39
Hi all, I have some problems with choice E. Nobody in this thread could actually say, why E is wrong, so as not an Expert in this area, one must not know wether the reactions caused responses or an individual. I don't see any error in this sentence (E). In this cas who correctly modifies an individual....
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The use of lie detectors is based on the assumption that [#permalink] New post 12 May 2015, 17:48
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Hi all, I have some problems with choice E. Nobody in this thread could actually say, why E is wrong, so as not an Expert in this area, one must not know wether the reactions caused responses or an individual. I don't see any error in this sentence (E). In this cas who correctly modifies an individual....

E is worng because it changes the meaning of the sentence.

The original meaning is that the lying produces emotional reactions that, in turn, create unconscious physiological responses ("The use of lie detectors is based on the assumption that lying produces emotional reactions in an individual that, in turn, create unconscious physiological responses.")

However, in E, although it is a grammatically correct sentence, the meaning has changed:

E. The use of lie detectors is based on the assumption that lying produces emotional reactions in an individual who creates unconscious physiological responses in turn.

In E, the physiological responses are produced by the individual and not by emotional reactions. E is wrong because it changes the original meaning (although option E reflects a logical meaning)
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Re: The use of lie detectors is based on the assumption that [#permalink] New post 12 May 2015, 17:50
However, I can´t understand yet why C. is worng.
Is it wrong only because of the missed comma?
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Re: The use of lie detectors is based on the assumption that [#permalink] New post 14 May 2015, 19:16
I chose A. I am clear with the SVA reasoning but I am still unsure about the placement of 'in turn'. Can some explain this to me?
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Re: The use of lie detectors is based on the assumption that [#permalink] New post 16 May 2015, 06:41
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I chose A. I am clear with the SVA reasoning but I am still unsure about the placement of 'in turn'. Can some explain this to me?


hi,
the placement of 'in turn' changes the meaning.
A) that, in turn, create unconscious physiological responses.
it means that something creates emotional reactions and these reactions on their part produce physiological responses
B) that create unconscious physiological responses in turn.
here it changes the meaning to that the emotional changes create physiological responses one after another

in simple terms say .. in turn, modifies two different things in the sentences in first emotional reaction and in second physiological responses
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Re: The use of lie detectors is based on the assumption that [#permalink] New post 16 May 2015, 06:48
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However, I can´t understand yet why C. is worng.
Is it wrong only because of the missed comma?

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C) creating, in turn, unconscious physiological responses
it changes the meaning..
the original sentence says
The use of lie detectors is based on the assumption that lying produces emotional reactions in an individual that, in turn, create unconscious physiological response. here it is emotional rections that is producing physiological responses

The use of lie detectors is based on the assumption that lying produces emotional reactions in an individual creating, in turn, unconscious physiological responses here the act of emotional reactions produced by lying is producing physiological responses
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Re: The use of lie detectors is based on the assumption that [#permalink] New post 16 May 2015, 07:15
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Yogita25 wrote:
I chose A. I am clear with the SVA reasoning but I am still unsure about the placement of 'in turn'. Can some explain this to me?


hi,
the placement of 'in turn' changes the meaning.
A) that, in turn, create unconscious physiological responses.
it means that something creates emotional reactions and these reactions on their part produce physiological responses
B) that create unconscious physiological responses in turn.
here it changes the meaning to that the emotional changes create physiological responses one after another

in simple terms say .. in turn, modifies two different things in the sentences in first emotional reaction and in second physiological responses


Thanks a lot. Now I am clear with it.
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