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Just to summarize the understanding, "it" should refer to the "complete" subject along with the modifier.

Can I use "that"? Can you please clarify the difference.


Hi kinjiGC,

Any pronoun used to refer to a noun will include the associated modifier with it. It just cannot pick up the "noun" and leave alone the modifier. This is applicable for the use of "that" as well.

Hope this helps. :-)
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New post 16 Jul 2015, 11:52
Fistail wrote:
There are hopeful signs that we are shifting away from our heavy reliance on fossil fuels: more than ten times as much energy is generated through wind power now than it was in 1990

A) generated through wind power now than it was
B) generated through wind power now as it was
C) generated through wind power now as was the case
D) now generated through wind power as it was
E) now generated through wind power than was the case


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could you please clarify what is the issue with option B and D.

Please clarify this. i think it is referring to energy then why these options are wrong.

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There are hopeful signs that we are shifting away from our heavy reliance on fossil fuels: more than ten times as much energy is generated through wind power now than it was in 1990

A) generated through wind power now than it was
B) generated through wind power now as it was
C) generated through wind power now as was the case
D) now generated through wind power as it was
E) now generated through wind power than was the case


A very nice question:

Split 1) In structure 'times as ... ' we need as to conclude the comparison: Eliminate A, E

Split 2) 'it' in B and D refers to 'energy' that is generated through wind power now. When a pronoun refers to a noun it exactly means the same thing. But this cannot be true, as now ten time the 1990 amount of energy is generated through wind power. Eliminate B, D

Split 3) 'now' before 'generated' (as in D) or after 'power' as in B: this split is not decisive as both are okay here
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New post 10 Feb 2016, 21:25
This is 700 + level question. Hence, there must be some twist / new rule coming into picture. Coming to question:
A and E are out because we need as not than.
D is out because of wrong placement of now.
Down to B/C
I choose B over C as it was concise and looks clear.

After having a look at OA, if i were to justify my self,than i would have given following reasoning

In parallelism question. always see what is being compared first. Here the energy generated now is being compared with energy generated in 1910.
Option B is comparing energy generated now vs (energy) in 1910 (it refers to energy)
Option C compares energy generated now vs (was the case in 1910) - a fact

C looks to compare correctly. Hence OA - C
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It's C; think about it, when there is a multiple, xx times, only say as much as...not as much than. Additionally, you are not comparing the amount of wind power generated, but rather the event of generating wind power. so cannot use "it" as pronoun. Only C left
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The real comparison is between the energy produced now and the energy produced in 1990. The expression - ten times as much energy as -is the term used to describe the quantum of energy.


A) more than ten times as much energy is generated through wind power now than it was
B) more than ten times as much energy is generated through wind power now as it was
C) more than ten times as much energy is generated through wind power now as was the case
D) more than ten times as much energy is now generated through wind power as it was
E) more than ten times as much energy is now generated through wind power than was the case

You may see that A and E, use a wrong idiom namely 'as much energy than' and hence can be safely dropped. Among BCD, B and D lose steam because of using the pronoun"it' without a clear referent.

C is therefore the right royal choice.

PS: This post has been edited by me reflecting the points noted by another poster.


Sir why can't 'it' refer to 'energy'?
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hi egmat


Can you explain why it is referring to 10 times the energy ?? Can we use that in place of it .

Please give some additional example on the same .

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Can you explain why it is referring to 10 times the energy ?? Can we use that in place of it .

Please give some additional example on the same .

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"It" does not refer to "ten times the energy" - a pronoun cannot refer to a group of words such as this one - a pronoun has to refer to a noun (or a noun phrase).

The point is that the pronoun "it" does not have any antecedent (nouns such "energy" or "wind power" are not suitable antecedents for the pronoun in this sentence). The proper antecedent of "it" could be the word "case", but this word is not there in the sentence. Hence all options that have "it" are wrong.

To answer your second question:
No, "that" is equally wrong - "that" as a demonstrative pronoun must have a noun to follow or as a relative pronoun must have a noun to refer to:

That pen is mine (demonstrative - the noun "pen" follows)
The car you have is bigger than that I have (relative - referring to "car").

However the following sentence is wrong:
There were many exciting games in the party: that was great.
(wrong - "that" cannot refer to the whole fact that "There were many exciting games in the party")
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New post 20 Sep 2016, 12:22
I don't know, I see a problem beyond the ones related above.

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as much energy is generated


Quote:
as it was ????? in 1990


"it" relates clearly to energy, BUT...

Quote:
as it was ????? in 1990


SO, replacing "it" by [the energy generated]..

Quote:
as [the energy generated] was in 1990


the point is that energy can't "be" anything, so we can eliminate B and D

now...

Quote:
as was the energy generated in 1990
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