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There is a widespread belief in the United States and Western Europe that young people have a smaller commitment to work and a career than their parents and grandparents and that the source of the change lies in the collapse of the "work ethic".
1) ".."
2) less of a commitment to work and a career than their parents and grandparents
3) a smaller commitment to work and a career than that of their parents and grandparents
4) less of a commitment to work and a career than their parents and grandparents had
5) a lessening of the commitment to work and a career that their parent and grandparents had
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4) less of a commitment to work and a career than their parents and grandparents had
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OA is D.

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Late, but D. We need the "had" after grandparents to accurately complete the comparison.
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I have a few questions for gurus :)

1. Why is the use "had" but not "did" in "less of a commitment to work and a career than their parents and grandparents had" correct?

2. Is it possible to use "a smaller commitment" instead of "less of a commitment"

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I have a few questions for gurus :)

1. Why is the use "had" but not "did" in "less of a commitment to work and a career than their parents and grandparents had" correct?

2. Is it possible to use "a smaller commitment" instead of "less of a commitment"

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had is parallel with "young people have"

smaller is something physical, less is something abstract
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Walker look at the statement: young people "have" in the beginning (bold red) makes it a perfect tense statement (perfect tense = have, had, having etc.). did is simple past tense, had is perfect past tense. It makes sense now to use perfect tenses consistently across this statement. Hence we require had.

It can't be smaller in this context --> if you read the sentence, you can clearly see that there is a comparison. Think of a simpler comparative statement using commitment :

bsd has a smaller commitment than walker <-- awkward to use smaller .. than in this comparison, as the guy above posted, smaller is physical, lesser is abstract.
bsd is less committed than walker

or another
gluttony is smaller of the two evils
gluttony is the lesser evil

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There is a widespread belief in the United States and Western Europe that young people have a smaller commitment to work and a career than their parents and grandparents and that the source of the change lies in the collapse of the "work ethic".
1) ".."
2) less of a commitment to work and a career than their parents and grandparents
3) a smaller commitment to work and a career than that of their parents and grandparents
4) less of a commitment to work and a career than their parents and grandparents had
5) a lessening of the commitment to work and a career that their parent and grandparents had
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Hypothetically ... is this better? If it were one of the choices would you pick it?

lesser commitment to work and a career than their parents and grandparents had
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I think you can use "did" here instead of "had" and it would still be correct. But it is not among the answer choices.
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I disagree with bsd_lover regarding the perfect tense used there. I think it's just a simple present and then a simple past. In this case I prove chineseburned's opinion - young people "make"/do/have less bla-bla-bla than their parents and grandparents "made"/did/had
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Wow, thanks for discussion! Now, I will post links to my problem posts in my signature :)

smaller/less - physical/abstract - I get it!

had/did - I just thought that "I have a pen" is present simple tense and we can use had/did equally....

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Actually walker I take it back. I am an idiot. Sorry for the confusion everyone.

Present perfect has a : have + past participle. I have a pen is simple present. Young people have a commitment is simple present and hence did is just as correct (in fact probably more correct) than had.

This is not to be confused by present perfect - which shows the currently ongoing nature of an activity.

Example of present perfect :
I have lived a full life

Simple present:
I have a full life.

I hope this is clearer.
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which of the following, if true, will most seriously weaken the conclusion of bsd_lover made in the second sentence of bsd_lover's set of statements?

(a) not everyone was confused by mentioning a perfect tense
(b) everyone believes that a perfect tense is the most useful tense that any native speaker likes
(c) everybody loves gtam test
(d) everybody hates gmat test
(e) everybody is sure that any grammar rule was invented to misconduct such respectful people as gmat takers

i'll provide you with OA a bit later if i don't forget that. maybe :lol:.

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guess again pleeeese :lol:
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There is a widespread belief in the US and Western Europe that young
people have a smaller commitment to work and a career than their parents and
grandparents
and that the source of the change lies in the collapse of the 'work
ethic'.

A. a smaller commitment to work and a career than their parents and grandparents
B. less of a commitment to work and a career than their parents and grandparents
C. a smaller commitment to work and a career than that of their parents and
grandparents
D. less of a commitment to work and a career than their parents and grandparents
had
E. a lessening of the commitment to work and a career than their parents and
grandparents had
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There is a widespread belief in the US and Western Europe that young
people have a smaller commitment to work and a career than their parents and
grandparents
and that the source of the change lies in the collapse of the 'work
ethic'.

A. a smaller commitment to work and a career than their parents and grandparents
B. less of a commitment to work and a career than their parents and grandparents
C. a smaller commitment to work and a career than that of their parents and
grandparents
D. less of a commitment to work and a career than their parents and grandparents
had
E. a lessening of the commitment to work and a career than their parents and
grandparents had


First of all in such type of Qs, i look for keywords such as THAN here. Both sides of THAN should be parallel.
A: Out as we cant compare commitment TO parents and grandparents
B: Out : same reason as above
E: lessening of commitment : act of decreasing that changes meaning : so out

Left with C and D.Both are correct in regard to Comparison as one is having THAT and the other is having HAD.

Next check is Modifier of Commitment.
As commitment is an Uncountable Noun so we use Less not Smaller

So C: Out

Answer : D..
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We can rule out A,B and C since had is not there in the end for completing the parallelism.

have ... and ... had

now between D and E,

E has "lessening" which means commitment keeps on decreasing
so E out

so D wins , as have less of a commitment ... is parallel to .... had
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noboru wrote:
There is a widespread belief in the US and Western Europe that young
people have a smaller commitment to work and a career than their parents and
grandparents
and that the source of the change lies in the collapse of the 'work
ethic'.

A. a smaller commitment to work and a career than their parents and grandparents
B. less of a commitment to work and a career than their parents and grandparents
C. a smaller commitment to work and a career than that of their parents and
grandparents
D. less of a commitment to work and a career than their parents and grandparents
had
E. a lessening of the commitment to work and a career than their parents and
grandparents had


commitment is uncountable noun so it should be less not smaller. Lessening of commitment is wrong. So ruling out A,C and E
In B we are comparing commitment with parents and grandparents.

D is correct as it uses less and also compares commitment of young people with the commitment of their parents and grandparents
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Ans. should be D.

less commitment or more commitment not smaller or bigger commitment, so A and C out.
B out because of improper comparison
E out because of lessening.
D is the answer
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Seen this on the forum before....

Commitment cannot be "smaller", eliminate
A. a smaller commitment to work and a career than their parents and grandparents
C. a smaller commitment to work and a career than that of their parents and
grandparents

"Lessening of" is incorrect, eliminate
E. a lessening of the commitment to work and a career than their parents and
grandparents had

Parallelism between young people HAVE and grandparents HAD, eliminate
B. less of a commitment to work and a career than their parents and grandparents

D it is!
D. less of a commitment to work and a career than their parents and grandparents
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