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There is a widespread belief in the United States and [#permalink]  24 Oct 2005, 18:27
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There is a widespread belief in the United States and Western Europe that young people have a smaller commitment to work and a career than their parents and grandparents and that the source of the change lies in the collapse of the "work ethic".
1) ".."
2) less of a commitment to work and a career than their parents and grandparents
3) a smaller commitment to work and a career than that of their parents and grandparents
4) less of a commitment to work and a career than their parents and grandparents had
5) a lessening of the commitment to work and a career that their parent and grandparents had
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Re: SC: Commitment [#permalink]  28 May 2008, 20:47
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walker wrote:
I have a few questions for gurus

1. Why is the use "had" but not "did" in "less of a commitment to work and a career than their parents and grandparents had" correct?

2. Is it possible to use "a smaller commitment" instead of "less of a commitment"

had is parallel with "young people have"

smaller is something physical, less is something abstract
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Re: SC: Commitment [#permalink]  28 May 2008, 20:53
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Walker look at the statement: young people "have" in the beginning (bold red) makes it a perfect tense statement (perfect tense = have, had, having etc.). did is simple past tense, had is perfect past tense. It makes sense now to use perfect tenses consistently across this statement. Hence we require had.

It can't be smaller in this context --> if you read the sentence, you can clearly see that there is a comparison. Think of a simpler comparative statement using commitment :

bsd has a smaller commitment than walker <-- awkward to use smaller .. than in this comparison, as the guy above posted, smaller is physical, lesser is abstract.
bsd is less committed than walker

or another
gluttony is smaller of the two evils
gluttony is the lesser evil

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There is a widespread belief in the United States and Western Europe that young people have a smaller commitment to work and a career than their parents and grandparents and that the source of the change lies in the collapse of the "work ethic".
1) ".."
2) less of a commitment to work and a career than their parents and grandparents
3) a smaller commitment to work and a career than that of their parents and grandparents
4) less of a commitment to work and a career than their parents and grandparents had
5) a lessening of the commitment to work and a career that their parent and grandparents had
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Re: SC: Commitment [#permalink]  28 May 2008, 22:11
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I think you can use "did" here instead of "had" and it would still be correct. But it is not among the answer choices.
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Re: SC: Commitment [#permalink]  28 May 2008, 22:31
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I disagree with bsd_lover regarding the perfect tense used there. I think it's just a simple present and then a simple past. In this case I prove chineseburned's opinion - young people "make"/do/have less bla-bla-bla than their parents and grandparents "made"/did/had
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Re: SC: Commitment [#permalink]  28 May 2008, 23:25
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Actually walker I take it back. I am an idiot. Sorry for the confusion everyone.

Present perfect has a : have + past participle. I have a pen is simple present. Young people have a commitment is simple present and hence did is just as correct (in fact probably more correct) than had.

This is not to be confused by present perfect - which shows the currently ongoing nature of an activity.

Example of present perfect :
I have lived a full life

Simple present:
I have a full life.

I hope this is clearer.
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Re: SC: Commitment [#permalink]  24 Oct 2005, 18:46
4) less of a commitment to work and a career than their parents and grandparents had
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[#permalink]  24 Oct 2005, 20:32
OA is D.

Thx.
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[#permalink]  24 Oct 2005, 22:42
Late, but D. We need the "had" after grandparents to accurately complete the comparison.
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Re: SC: Commitment [#permalink]  20 May 2008, 22:01
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I have a few questions for gurus

1. Why is the use "had" but not "did" in "less of a commitment to work and a career than their parents and grandparents had" correct?

2. Is it possible to use "a smaller commitment" instead of "less of a commitment"

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Re: SC: Commitment [#permalink]  28 May 2008, 21:00
Hypothetically ... is this better? If it were one of the choices would you pick it?

lesser commitment to work and a career than their parents and grandparents had
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Re: SC: Commitment [#permalink]  28 May 2008, 22:56
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Wow, thanks for discussion! Now, I will post links to my problem posts in my signature

smaller/less - physical/abstract - I get it!

had/did - I just thought that "I have a pen" is present simple tense and we can use had/did equally....

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Re: SC: Commitment [#permalink]  29 May 2008, 06:42
which of the following, if true, will most seriously weaken the conclusion of bsd_lover made in the second sentence of bsd_lover's set of statements?

(a) not everyone was confused by mentioning a perfect tense
(b) everyone believes that a perfect tense is the most useful tense that any native speaker likes
(c) everybody loves gtam test
(d) everybody hates gmat test
(e) everybody is sure that any grammar rule was invented to misconduct such respectful people as gmat takers

i'll provide you with OA a bit later if i don't forget that. maybe .

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Re: SC: Commitment [#permalink]  03 Jun 2008, 06:03
guess again pleeeese
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