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why not option E .... Isn't their intension to require better condition...

Please explain @e-gmat
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Any particular logic as to find whether conditions should precede factors ?
Not clear on IMO
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The central issue before the court was how far the regulatory agencies should go in requiring better working conditions in factories.

This question tests more on the diction/idiom part of English. "how far X ... in <gerund action>" is the correct format. Hence A is the correct answer.
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Abhi077, GMATNinja, GMATNinjaTwo, generis, hazelnut

Please explain the error in E. It seems A has better diction. I fail to understand the error in E.

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The central issue before the court was how far the regulatory agencies should go in requiring better working conditions in factories.


A. in requiring better working conditions in factories

B. as far as requiring better working conditions in factories

C. in their requirement that factories should have better working conditions

D. as far as requiring that factories should have better working conditions

E. to require factories to have better working conditions

Helllo!
Eliminate Options B and D as there is no need of a comparison here.

Option E has not placed the words correctly
Option C is not correct. The use of have is not required.

Hence, Option A is perfect in terms of the usage of the words and its implied meaning.

Official Answer-: Option A
Kindly educate me if anything seems incorrect above.

Thank you!

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"in requiring" in choice A means that the action of requiring has happened and the agencies decide how far they should go in this happening action. in short, the agencies first require and then they consider how far they continue to require.

'to require" in choice E means that action of requiring has not happened.' how far they should go to require' is meaningless.

regarding choice C. I dont like official explanation in og books.

"requirements' in choice C is correct but 'requirement that ...should" is redundant. presence of both "requirement" and "should" is redundant. 'should" should be cut off.

this type of redundancy in command verbs is tested many times on og books. but why the explanation of choice C is still not good.

"I demand that you learn gmat" is correct on gmat and " I demand that you should learn gmat" is wrong on gmat.

Originally posted by thangvietnam on 09 Jun 2020, 03:23.
Last edited by thangvietnam on 05 Nov 2020, 04:36, edited 2 times in total.
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GMATNinja, this question requires your attention :-P :)
I am getting hard time to understand the difference between A and E.
What I get the meaning is that the agencies require factories to have better working conditions. What exactly E is doing here?
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Bunuel wrote:
The central issue before the court was how far the regulatory agencies should go in requiring better working conditions in factories.
A. in requiring better working conditions in factories

B. as far as requiring better working conditions in factories

C. in their requirement that factories should have better working conditions

D. as far as requiring that factories should have better working conditions

E. to require factories to have better working conditions
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https://www.nytimes.com/1981/07/05/business/economic-affairs-the-nondecision-cotton-dust-decision.html
ON June 17, the Supreme Court handed down its most important decision in some years on the regulation of health and safety. The central issue was how far the regulatory agencies should go in requiring healthier working conditions in factories.


We have to read the sentence by removing all the unnecessary fluff.
The issue was how far the agencies should go in requiring better working conditions in factories.

A. in requiring better working conditions in factories
Seems okay. NO PROBLEM. Keep it.

B. as far as requiring better working conditions in factories
how far ---should go as far as. Does not makes sense at all.

C. in their requirement that factories should have better working conditions
Change in the meaning. There is no requirement of agencies.

D. as far as requiring that factories should have better working conditions
Same problem as B.

E. to require factories to have better working conditions
Agencies do not require factories in this sentence. Wrong

daagh sir. Can you please tell whether my approach is correct?
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thangvietnam wrote:
is this from official?

"to do" used after a clause shows the would be action normally. of course, to do in this way can show a fact as in " i go go vietnam just to know that everything is good".

here, to require show a future action. this is not good. the requiring action happen already, not a future action. this meaning is better.

the agencies do requiring and then decide how far they should go in this action. agency dose not go for purpose of requiring which have not happened.
so, choice b is good, choice e is wrong


thangvietnam Yes, this question is from the new product sold at mba.com, "GMAT Official Practice Questions 2". Many of these questions appear to be quite old -- for example, some of the RC passages were originally posted on the forum in 2004.
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Here's the official explanation provided by the GMAC for this question:

The given sentence describes an issue that a court is dealing with: how far should the regulatory agencies go in regulating factory-working conditions. This presumably concerns how extensive the regulations should be or how strictly they should be enforced. The given sentence uses the preposition in with the verb-form requiring, which here functions as a noun. The phrase in … factories functions as an adjectival phrase modifying the noun phrase better working conditions. The given sentence is clear and grammatically correct.

Option A: Correct. As explained above, the sentence is clear and grammatically correct.

Option B: This version is confusing and lacks a clear meaning in context, in part because of the repetition of far.

Option C: The word requiring in the given sentence refers to an action, whereas the noun requirement refers to a regulation or order. The word requirement does not fit in the context of the sentence as a whole, which seems meant to refer to activity by regulatory agencies.

Option D: This version is confusing and lacks a clear meaning in context, in part because of the repetition of far in how far should go as far as … factories.

Option E: The phrase to require indicates a goal or purpose, but this fails to capture precisely what the sentence seems meant to express: how extensive the regulations should be or how strictly they should be enforced. It makes little sense to ask how far an agency should go to require something; the agency either issues a requirement or does not.

The correct answer is A.

Please note that I'm not the author of this explanation. I'm just posting it here since I believe it can help the community.
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My understanding:

E sounds like the regulatory agencies need to jump through hoops and hurdles in order to issue a requirement to have better working conditions; from a meaning standpoint this sentence does not make sense. The regulatory either issues a requirement or does not issue a requirement.

A is more direct: How extensive should these regulations be?
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GMATNinja kindly help our poor peasant minds :( Unable to understand how "in requiring" is suitable.
We use ".... how far can you do X in order to < do something>..."

Ex: How far can you push yourself in your studies in order to / to gain a perfect 100 marks in the mathematics exam next month?

Somehow, this is sounding awkward:
How far can you push yourself in your studies in gaining a perfect 100 marks in the mathematics exam next month?

Is there a technical part of grammar in play here? Please help :(
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AjiteshArun sir VeritasKarishma mam kindly guide
I was stuck between options A and E
Why to require is incorrect here
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AjiteshArun sir VeritasKarishma mam kindly guide
I was stuck between options A and E
Why to require is incorrect here



Actually this has been explained in above posts.

But for simplicity , to xyz would be helpeful if you need to consider some purpose . I went store to buy milk-- why you went to store . purpose- to buy milk
but in xyz would be heloful if it is more like a information. --> you can avail discount in buying milk --> you may or may not avail . you have information about discount.
how far the regulatory agencies should go--> how far should seems more like a discussion but not like a purpose.

This is how I differentiate between to xxx and in xxx.

I hope it helps.
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I am so confused with the parameter on which a question difficulty level is judged.
If I go by Gmatclub rating this is a 700 level question 75% difficulty and <50% correct answer.
I also got this question incorrect.

This question is originally from GMAT Prep QP2 and categorised as a Medium difficulty level question.
Which I believe is incorrect categorization.

There are many such instance where a question appears really easy but in MBA.com categorised a Hard.
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AndrewN,

I believe this question warrants an expert look.

I too fell for the second most popular answer choice here. What are your thoughts?
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