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The senator has long held to the general printable that no true work of art is obscene and thus that there is no conflict between the need to encourage free artistic expression and the need to protect the sensibilities of the public from obscenity. When well-known works generally viewed as obscene are cited as possible counterexamples, the senator justifies accepting the principle by saying that if these works really are obscene, then they cannot be works of arts.

The senator's reasoning contains which one of the following errors?

(A) It seeks to persuade by emotional rather than intellectual means.

(B) It contains an implicit contradiction.

(C) It relies on an assertion of the senator authority.

(D) It assumes what it seeks to establish.

(E) It attempts to justify a position by appeal to an irrelevant consideration.
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Senator View: thus that there is no conflict between the need to encourage free artistic expression and the need to protect the sensibilities of the public from obscenity.

As per senator if works really are obscene, then they cannot be art work. If so, then there is no need to have view need to protect the sensibilities of the public from obscenity.


(A) It seeks to persuade by emotional rather than intellectual means. [Senator view only compares free artistic view and need to protect the sensibilities of the public from obscenity – eliminate it]

(B) It contains an implicit contradiction. [Hold it]

(C) It relies on an assertion of the senator authority.[Senator authority – this is not discussed in the argument – eliminate it]

(D) It assumes what it seeks to establish.[It contradicts what is assumed – eliminate it]

(E) It attempts to justify a position by appeal to an irrelevant consideration.[Irrelevant consideration – eliminate it]

Answer: B
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The senator has long held to the general printable that no true work of art is obscene and thus that there is no conflict between the need to encourage free artistic expression and the need to protect the sensibilities of the public from obscenity. When well-known works generally viewed as obscene are cited as possible counterexamples, the senator justifies accepting the principle by saying that if these works really are obscene, then they cannot be works of arts.

True idea: true works of art can be decent works or obscene works.
The senator's idea: true works of art can be only decent works.


The senator's reasoning contains which one of the following errors?
irrelevant idea

(A) It seeks to persuade by emotional rather than intellectual means. - out of scope

(B) It contains an implicit contradiction. - There are no any implicit contradictions in the senator's idea

(C) It relies on an assertion of the senator authority. - irrelevant.

(D) It assumes what it seeks to establish. - I'm not sure but it sounds strange for me

(E) It attempts to justify a position by appeal to an irrelevant consideration. - the best. the senator position is based on irrelevant idea.
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The OA is neither (B) nor (E)...hmm. I originally chose (B) myself.

As for (E), I felt that the senator was not appealing to an irrelevant consideration, because an irrelevant consideration would be something more off-topic. Whereas the senator does instead use a rather circular form of reasoning which is on-topic.
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I'd go with D via elimination.
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IMO C

Senators reasoning:
true work of art -> ~ obscene

His final assertion: obscene -> ~true work of art

Logically this is perfectly ok to say so but the problem here is that those art works, which senator is defying being genuine true art works are true art works. General opinion about those art works is that they are true art work but senator is defying and expecting that people should accept it. Therefore we can say that he is using his authority to convince people.
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The answer should be D.

The senator here is using circular reasoning. He essentialy is saying that a work of art cannot be obscene because if it was obscene it would not be a work of art.

The answer that most resembles this is D.

D. It assumes what it seeks to establish.
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New post 11 Feb 2008, 09:26
Circular Reasoning:

If A then B
If B then A

But in this question it is:

If A then B
If NOT B then NOT A [If ~B then ~A]

and that is correct logic.

A: True art work
B: obscene

If A then NOT B => [If A then ~B] => If True art work then NOT obscene
If B then NOT A => [If B then ~A] => If obscene then NOT true art work

Please correct me?
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Tough for me... :?
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D for me.
OA tom?
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great explanation Gixxer, straight to the point.

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