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# Those who have visited the Grand Canyon have typically seen

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Those who have visited the Grand Canyon have typically seen layers of sediment in the gaping canyon, with different colors that mark the passage of time like the rings in a tree trunk.

(A) seen layers of sediment in the gaping canyon, with different colors that mark
(B) see layers of sediment in the gaping canyon, whose different colors mark
(C) been seeing layers of sediment in the gaping canyon, whose different colors are markers of
(D) been able to see layers of sediment in the gaping canyon, with different colors marking
(E) seen layers of sediment in the gaping canyon, marking by different colors
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21 Apr 2005, 17:15
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(A).

(B) (C): out: We require Present Perfect
(D): "able to see" Not necessary
(E): Run-on sentence: marking is gerund and should be treated as Noun.
Ram and Shyam seen layers of sediment in the gaping canyon, marking by different colors the passage of time like the rings in a tree trunk.

Clearly Awkward.

(A): Those who have visited the Grand Canyon have typically seen layers of sediment in the gaping canyon, with different colors that mark the passage of time like the rings in a tree trunk.

I will read it like this:

Ram and Shyam have typically seen layers of sediment, with different colors (X), in the gaping canyon.
X - DC
I hope I am right .
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21 Apr 2005, 17:31
I'll go with A for parallelism. Those who have gone to the grand canyon --> people who visit in the past and those who visit today will see the same thign, is parallel with have seen.
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21 Apr 2005, 19:12
I prefer E, participial phrase
A i dont like "with" because of the "," infront of it.
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21 Apr 2005, 19:20
OA I have is "D"....can anyone explain how can that be ? No OE
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21 Apr 2005, 19:39
banerjeea_98 wrote:
OA I have is "D"....can anyone explain how can that be ? No OE

Now I see the problem with..
(A) says color themselve mark passage of time, which is wrong . It can be (D). BTW what is the source of the problem.
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21 Apr 2005, 20:43
Vithal wrote:
but even D says that colors mark the time!

No. In (D), "marking.." is a Participle phrase used as an adjective. It just describe a property (not action as it is in (A)).
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21 Apr 2005, 21:29
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Vithal wrote:
but even D says that colors mark the time!

No. In (D), "marking.." is a Participle phrase used as an adjective. It just describe a property (not action as it is in (A)).

I still think that "marking" is not used as an adjective - can you tell me how marking is an adjective in the sentence?
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21 Apr 2005, 23:25
banerjeea_98 wrote:
Those who have visited the Grand Canyon have typically seen layers of sediment in the gaping canyon, with different colors that mark the passage of time like the rings in a tree trunk.

(A) seen layers of sediment in the gaping canyon, with different colors that mark
(B) see layers of sediment in the gaping canyon, whose different colors mark
(C) been seeing layers of sediment in the gaping canyon, whose different colors are markers of
(D) been able to see layers of sediment in the gaping canyon, with different colors marking
(E) seen layers of sediment in the gaping canyon, marking by different colors

Initially I pick A. I try to explain why D is the OA.

I think the key is the adverb 'typically'.
in choice A, 'typically' modifies the verb 'see'. maybe 'typically see' is inappropriate.

In choice D, 'typically be able to' maybe more appropriate.

That just my thought. Any correction or reason?

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22 Apr 2005, 15:39
Vithal wrote:
I still think that "marking" is not used as an adjective - can you tell me how marking is an adjective in the sentence?

I said that based on the definition of Participle phrase. I may be wrong though. Dont forget I also got the answer wrong.
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24 Apr 2005, 20:28
this question is so weird.

Any expert's explanation?

thanks
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05 Jun 2014, 11:46
Can somebody explain why C is wrong here?
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Dear ankurgupta03,

In C, the continuous tense is not required. But more importantly, the different colors must refer to the layers of sediment -- the use of "with" allows that. But the use of the pronoun "whose" in C makes the colors refer to the canyon. "Are markers of" could have been "mark" -- the GMAT prefers a direct verb to a noun.

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05 Jun 2014, 20:44
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Can somebody explain why C is wrong here?

C says : been seeing layers of sediment in the gaping canyon, whose different colors are markers of

there are three faults in C as shown in bold

1) "been seeing layers" seems to suggest that those who have visited "been seeing layers" in a continuous manner, an interpretation that is wrong

i will not call "whose" as outright wrong here ."whose" is not referring to "gaping canyon" because verb of "whose" is "are" .also note that "comma + whose" can refer to "noun 1 +prep +noun2" .however the problem is that we have much better construction in option A "with different colors that mark" that modifies the previous clause and that is exactly what we want

lastly "markers of" is also wrong
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06 Jun 2014, 00:35
"Whose" can still refer to "gaping canyon" because the "are" applies to the plural "colors", not to any of the nouns before "colors". In C, the construction is not just "Noun 1 + prep + Noun 2", but "Noun 1 of Noun 2 in the Noun 3". This makes the sentence vague. Whose noun is it, anyway?
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but "Noun 1 of Noun 2 in the Noun 3"

this construction is just an extension of noun 1 +prep +noun2 +comma .also context matters a lot in such situation
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