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Three machines, K, M, and P, working simultaneously and independently at their respective constant rates, can complete a certain task in 24 minutes. How long does it take Machine K, working alone at its constant rate, to complete the task?

(1) Machines M and P, working simultaneously and independently at their respective constant rates, can complete the task in 36 minutes. (2) Machines K and P, working simultaneously and independently at their respective constant rates, can complete the task in 48 minutes.

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Three machines, K, M, and P, working simultaneously and independently at their respective constant rates, can complete a certain task in 24 minutes. How long does it take Machine K, working alone at its constant rate, to complete the task?

Say k, m, and p are the numbers of minutes machines K, M, and P take, respectively, to complete the task. Then we have that \(\frac{1}{k}+\frac{1}{m}+\frac{1}{p}=\frac{1}{24}\).

(1) Machines M and P, working simultaneously and independently at their respective constant rates, can complete the task in 36 minutes --> \(\frac{1}{m}+\frac{1}{p}=\frac{1}{36}\), thus \(\frac{1}{k}+\frac{1}{36}=\frac{1}{24}\) --> we can find the value of \(k\). Sufficient.

(2) Machines K and P, working simultaneously and independently at their respective constant rates, can complete the task in 48 minutes --> \(\frac{1}{k}+\frac{1}{p}=\frac{1}{48}\). The value of k cannot be determined from the data we have. Not sufficient.

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Three machines, K, M, and P, working simultaneously and independently at their respective constant rates, can complete a certain task in 24 minutes. How long does it take Machine K, working alone at its constant rate, to complete the task?

(1) Machines M and P, working simultaneously and independently at their respective constant rates, can complete the task in 36 minutes. RATE K + M + P) - RATE : (M+P) = RATE : K. SUFFICIENT (2) Machines K and P, working simultaneously and independently at their respective constant rates, can complete the task in 48 minutes. RATE K + M + P) - RATE : (K+P) = RATE : M. NOT SUFFICIENT _________________

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28 Nov 2013, 06:29

Bunuel wrote:

Three machines, K, M, and P, working simultaneously and independently at their respective constant rates, can complete a certain task in 24 minutes. How long does it take Machine K, working alone at its constant rate, to complete the task?

Say k, m, and p are the numbers of minutes machines K, M, and P take, respectively, to complete the task. Then we have that \(\frac{1}{k}+\frac{1}{m}+\frac{1}{p}=\frac{1}{24}\).

(1) Machines M and P, working simultaneously and independently at their respective constant rates, can complete the task in 36 minutes --> \(\frac{1}{m}+\frac{1}{p}=\frac{1}{36}\), thus \(\frac{1}{k}+\frac{1}{36}=\frac{1}{24}\) --> we can find the value of \(k\). Sufficient.

(2) Machines K and P, working simultaneously and independently at their respective constant rates, can complete the task in 48 minutes --> \(\frac{1}{k}+\frac{1}{p}=\frac{1}{48}\). The value of k cannot be determined from the data we have. Not sufficient.

Answer: A.

I approached this pbm a little differently. Pls. Explain where I am going wrong...is it OK to reason this way?

Let Rk, Rm and Rp be the rates for the machines K,M and P respectively. Then 1/Rk +1/Rm+1/Rp = 24

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audiogal101 wrote:

Bunuel wrote:

Three machines, K, M, and P, working simultaneously and independently at their respective constant rates, can complete a certain task in 24 minutes. How long does it take Machine K, working alone at its constant rate, to complete the task?

Say k, m, and p are the numbers of minutes machines K, M, and P take, respectively, to complete the task. Then we have that \(\frac{1}{k}+\frac{1}{m}+\frac{1}{p}=\frac{1}{24}\).

(1) Machines M and P, working simultaneously and independently at their respective constant rates, can complete the task in 36 minutes --> \(\frac{1}{m}+\frac{1}{p}=\frac{1}{36}\), thus \(\frac{1}{k}+\frac{1}{36}=\frac{1}{24}\) --> we can find the value of \(k\). Sufficient.

(2) Machines K and P, working simultaneously and independently at their respective constant rates, can complete the task in 48 minutes --> \(\frac{1}{k}+\frac{1}{p}=\frac{1}{48}\). The value of k cannot be determined from the data we have. Not sufficient.

Answer: A.

I approached this pbm a little differently. Pls. Explain where I am going wrong...is it OK to reason this way?

Let Rk, Rm and Rp be the rates for the machines K,M and P respectively. Then 1/Rk +1/Rm+1/Rp = 24

St 1 gives ---> 1/Rm + 1/Rp = 36

So, we get 1/Rk + 36 = 24.

Solving, 1/Rk = 24-36=-12

Why am I getting a negative value?

1/Rk, 1/Rm, and 1/Rp are the numbers of minutes machines K, M, and P take to complete the task alone. Each must be greater than the time needed for three machines to complete a certain task together (24 minutes), thus 1/Rk +1/Rm+1/Rp = 24 is not right. The same for 1/Rm + 1/Rp = 36.

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29 Nov 2013, 22:35

Bunuel wrote:

audiogal101 wrote:

Bunuel wrote:

Three machines, K, M, and P, working simultaneously and independently at their respective constant rates, can complete a certain task in 24 minutes. How long does it take Machine K, working alone at its constant rate, to complete the task?

Say k, m, and p are the numbers of minutes machines K, M, and P take, respectively, to complete the task. Then we have that \(\frac{1}{k}+\frac{1}{m}+\frac{1}{p}=\frac{1}{24}\).

(1) Machines M and P, working simultaneously and independently at their respective constant rates, can complete the task in 36 minutes --> \(\frac{1}{m}+\frac{1}{p}=\frac{1}{36}\), thus \(\frac{1}{k}+\frac{1}{36}=\frac{1}{24}\) --> we can find the value of \(k\). Sufficient.

(2) Machines K and P, working simultaneously and independently at their respective constant rates, can complete the task in 48 minutes --> \(\frac{1}{k}+\frac{1}{p}=\frac{1}{48}\). The value of k cannot be determined from the data we have. Not sufficient.

Answer: A.

I approached this pbm a little differently. Pls. Explain where I am going wrong...is it OK to reason this way?

Let Rk, Rm and Rp be the rates for the machines K,M and P respectively. Then 1/Rk +1/Rm+1/Rp = 24

St 1 gives ---> 1/Rm + 1/Rp = 36

So, we get 1/Rk + 36 = 24.

Solving, 1/Rk = 24-36=-12

Why am I getting a negative value?

1/Rk, 1/Rm, and 1/Rp are the numbers of minutes machines K, M, and P take to complete the task alone. Each must be greater than the time needed for three machines to complete a certain task together (24 minutes), thus 1/Rk +1/Rm+1/Rp = 24 is not right. The same for 1/Rm + 1/Rp = 36.

Hope it's clear.

Got it. So would it be correct to say that 1/ (Rk+Rm+Rp) = 24? (since the denominator has combined rate now)?

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