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b14kumar wrote: Vina,
What's the OA?
-Brajesh
Sorry what do you mean by OA. On the Attack.
On Arrival
Over to the Answer
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b14kumar wrote: I believe it's C.
According to C,
"a beetle usually responds immediately to changes in the insect's direction" it means beetle doesn't go blind. It undermines the second hypotheses.
"it pauses equally frequently whether the chase is up or down an incline", it means beetle cannot maintain their pace and must pause for a moment's rest. It supports the first hypothese.
You are right about the "a beetle usually responds immediately to changes in the insect's direction", undermining first hypothesis. I think you are wrong about the second part, "it pauses equally frequently whether the chase is up or down an incline". If the beetle is stopping to catch his breath, then this means the beetle gets equally tired whether running uphill or downhill. How is that possible? Even an athlete gets more tired when running uphill. b14kumar wrote: In my opinion, B can not be an answer. B says that "In pursuing a swerving insect, a beetle alters its course while running ". It may happen that beetle might be going blind and changing their directions.
That does not make sense, the hypothesis is that the beetle stops when it goes blind. Oh well, lets wait for the official answer I guess.
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OA is B
This is from OG 11th Ed. Diagnostic Test
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good one.
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Re: GMATPREP - CR - Tiger Beetles (what a ripper) [#permalink]
27 May 2008, 18:14
A) When a prey insect is moved directly toward a beetle that has been chasing it, the beetle immediately turns and runs away without its usual intermittent stopping. This sentence suggests a survival issue for Beetle. So whether or not it needs rest or become blind, it has to save its life so keep running. This is not the answer.
B) In pursuing a moving insect, the beetles usually respond immediately to changes in the insect's direction, and pause equally frequently whether the chase is up or down an incline. "usually respond immediately to changes" implies beetle does not become blind so refuting the second hypothesis. "pause equally frequently whether..." implies irrespective of condition they stop, so "rest" is not the issue, as if it is an issue then going up incline they will rest more frequently.
C) The beetles maintain a fixed time interval between pauses, although when an insect that had been stationary begins to flee, the beetle increases its speed after the next pause. "maintain a fixed time interval..." refutes first experiment. "though when an insect..." supports beetle is not able to see it when prey started fleeing, so next time when beetle pauses and see prey is fleeing increases its speed.
D) If, when the beetle pauses, it has not gained on the suspect while pursuing, the beetle generally ends the pursuit. Neither supports the first hypothesis nor the second hypothesis.
E) When an obstacle is suddenly introduced just in front of the running beetles, the beetles stop immediately, but they never respond by running around the barrier. "When an obstacle is.." indicates beetle is not blind thereby refuting second hypothesis but this does not supports the first experiment as required by the question.
So Answer is C.
Last edited by abhijit_sen on 29 May 2008, 06:32, edited 2 times in total.
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Re: GMATPREP - CR - Tiger Beetles (what a ripper) [#permalink]
27 May 2008, 19:31
So which one is your answer ????
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Re: GMATPREP - CR - Tiger Beetles (what a ripper) [#permalink]
27 May 2008, 20:07
I am thinking B..
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Re: GMATPREP - CR - Tiger Beetles (what a ripper) [#permalink]
28 May 2008, 10:40
This is C all the way. I even have a screen capture if you want proof.
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Re: GMATPREP - CR - Tiger Beetles (what a ripper) [#permalink]
28 May 2008, 11:57
Well its really good question. +1 to you. My pick would be C. if correct would provide explan.
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Re: GMATPREP - CR - Tiger Beetles (what a ripper) [#permalink]
28 May 2008, 15:27
C for me as well.
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Re: GMATPREP - CR - Tiger Beetles (what a ripper) [#permalink]
28 May 2008, 15:39
B and C r close
Will go for B.
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Re: GMATPREP - CR - Tiger Beetles (what a ripper) [#permalink]
28 May 2008, 18:15
I am going for B..
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Re: GMATPREP - CR - Tiger Beetles (what a ripper) [#permalink]
28 May 2008, 18:22
As usual everyone's reasoning it through  .... in their heads ...
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Re: GMATPREP - CR - Tiger Beetles (what a ripper) [#permalink]
28 May 2008, 18:25
bsd_lover wrote: As usual everyone's reasoning it through  .... in their heads ... OK..so here is why..one of the choices has to weaken 1 hypothesis..and strengthen the other.. B says..hey if the prey moves very quickly it wont blind the beatle..while at the same time it strengthens the other hypothesis that they just run out of gas
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Re: GMATPREP - CR - Tiger Beetles (what a ripper) [#permalink]
28 May 2008, 22:05
OA is C.
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Re: GMATPREP - CR - Tiger Beetles (what a ripper) [#permalink]
28 May 2008, 22:38
I dont like this OG question, even reading OE many times but still being stuck! I wonder why OG writers can even write it like that!
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Re: GMATPREP - CR - Tiger Beetles (what a ripper) [#permalink]
29 May 2008, 03:40
support one hyp and undermine other. TB fast runners can capture any non flying insect running towards insect, int. stop and resume Hyp 1 : cannot maintain their pace so pause for rest Hyp 2 : cannot process rapidly changing visual info. go blind hence stop bsd_lover wrote: Tiger beetles are such fast runners that they can capture virtually any nonflying insect. However, when running toward an insect, the beetles intermittently stop, and then, a moment later, resume their attack. Perhaps they cannot maintain their pace and must pause for a moment's rest; but an alternative hypothesis is that while running tiger beetles are unable to process the resulting rapidly changing visual information, and so quickly go blind and stop.
Which of the following, if discovered in experiments using artificially moved prey insects, would support one of the two hypotheses and undermine the other ?
A) When a prey insect is moved directly toward a beetle that has been chasing it, the beetle immediately turns and runs away without its usual intermittent stopping. >> This choice doesnt support any of the Hypothesis.
B) In pursuing a moving insect, the beetles usually respond immediately to changes in the insect's direction, and pause equally frequently whether the chase is up or down an incline. >> Undermines Hyp 2 that it can process the changing visual information in the form of insect's direction.. And the fact that it pauses frequently it supports Hyp 1.
C) The beetles maintain a fixed time interval between pauses, although when an insect that had been stationary begins to flee, the beetle increases its speed after the next pause. >> This introduces its own hypothesis.
D) If, when the beetle pauses, it has not gained on the suspect while pursuing, the beetle generally ends the pursuit. >> Irrelevant to the question.
E) When an obstacle is suddenly introduced just in front of the running beetles, the beetles stop immediately, but they never respond by running around the barrier. >> Some support to Hyp 2 but doesnt undermine any of the Hyp's.
ps. I've not seen this one posted before, so this must be one of those rare ones that you can only dig up when u go seriously deep into gmatprep. Good luck solving it - I took about 3 minutes (but thankfully got it right).
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Re: GMATPREP - CR - Tiger Beetles (what a ripper) [#permalink]
29 May 2008, 06:43
are you sure OA is C?
I just searched and saw OA as B??
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Re: GMATPREP - CR - Tiger Beetles (what a ripper) [#permalink]
29 May 2008, 06:53
bsd_lover wrote: Tiger beetles are such fast runners that they can capture virtually any nonflying insect. However, when running toward an insect, the beetles intermittently stop, and then, a moment later, resume their attack. Perhaps they cannot maintain their pace and must pause for a moment's rest; but an alternative hypothesis is that while running tiger beetles are unable to process the resulting rapidly changing visual information, and so quickly go blind and stop.
Which of the following, if discovered in experiments using artificially moved prey insects, would support one of the two hypotheses and undermine the other ?
A) When a prey insect is moved directly toward a beetle that has been chasing it, the beetle immediately turns and runs away without its usual intermittent stopping.
B) In pursuing a moving insect, the beetles usually respond immediately to changes in the insect's direction, and pause equally frequently whether the chase is up or down an incline.
C) The beetles maintain a fixed time interval between pauses, although when an insect that had been stationary begins to flee, the beetle increases its speed after the next pause.
D) If, when the beetle pauses, it has not gained on the suspect while pursuing, the beetle generally ends the pursuit.
E) When an obstacle is suddenly introduced just in front of the running beetles, the beetles stop immediately, but they never respond by running around the barrier.
ps. I've not seen this one posted before, so this must be one of those rare ones that you can only dig up when u go seriously deep into gmatprep. Good luck solving it - I took about 3 minutes (but thankfully got it right). I too spent 3 minutes on this. Reading each of these responses and relating back to the question and then deciphering the opposition makes it complicated. I choose C, since it is the only one that both would parallell one hypothesis and undermine the other.
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Re: GMATPREP - CR - Tiger Beetles (what a ripper) [#permalink]
29 May 2008, 07:28
BSD can you confirm your OA please? according to the link below, this question is on OG-11 and the OA is B p349711#p349711
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