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Timmy is learning about the war in which much of Europe will be reduced to rubble

A. .....
B. Timmy learned about the war in which much of Europe had been reduced to rubble
C. Timmy had learned about the war in which much of Europe was reduced to rubble
D, Timmy has learned about the war in which much of Europe must have been bee reduced to rubble
E. Timmy learned about the war in which much of Europe was reduced to rubble

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18 Mar 2013, 23:48
It is E. OA pls.

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19 Mar 2013, 02:49
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Timmy is learning about the war in which much of Europe will be reduced to rubble

A. .....
B. Timmy learned about the war in which much of Europe had been reduced to rubble
C. Timmy had learned about the war in which much of Europe was reduced to rubble
D, Timmy has learned about the war in which much of Europe must have been bee reduced to rubble
E. Timmy learned about the war in which much of Europe was reduced to rubble

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A,B,C and D conveys the wrong meaning if you think about it.

Simple past is required here. The answer choice E is the best.
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19 Mar 2013, 04:29
My pick is B...we need past perfect for two events that happened in past...
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@ratin sequencing of events is required when two event in the past have some bearing over each other .for two random events sequencing is not required .in fact it sounds very awkward !!
the fact the timmy learned about some war (isolated event ) has no bearing on timing of the war so past perfect is wrong here !!
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19 Mar 2013, 05:58
sdas wrote:
Timmy is learning about the war in which much of Europe will be reduced to rubble

A. .....
B. Timmy learned about the war in which much of Europe had been reduced to rubble
C. Timmy had learned about the war in which much of Europe was reduced to rubble
D, Timmy has learned about the war in which much of Europe must have been bee reduced to rubble
E. Timmy learned about the war in which much of Europe was reduced to rubble

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Here, the use of past perfect is not required. The sentence don't want to say "Timmy learned after much of the Europe had been reduced to rubble".
Will you say "I visited a grocery store where most of the items had been costly" or "I visited a grocery store where most of the items were costly"?
I'll go with option E.
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19 Mar 2013, 09:01
@ratin sequencing of events is required when two event in the past have some bearing over each other .for two random events sequencing is not required .in fact it sounds very awkward !!
the fact the timmy learned about some war (isolated event ) has no bearing on timing of the war so past perfect is wrong here !!

Hi Aditya, the reason why we dont need a past perfect tense here is that 2 events - Timmy learning and war that already happened, have no bearing on each other. If we have to define past perfect tense usage, it is used only for 2 related events where sequencing is essential. In this sentence, sequence is essential, obviously war happened before Timmy learned about the war, but event wise these 2 dont relate to each other, even if Timmy decided not to learn, the war would still have happened (because it already happened in the past and Timmy was not a deciding factor to it)

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Hi Aditya, the reason why we dont need a past perfect tense here is that 2 events - Timmy learning and war that already happened, have no bearing on each other. If we have to define past perfect tense usage, it is used only for 2 related events where sequencing is essential. In this sentence, sequence is essential, obviously war happened before Timmy learned about the war, but event wise these 2 dont relate to each other, even if Timmy decided not to learn, the war would still have happened (because it already happened in the past and Timmy was not a deciding factor to it)

so i said they have no bearing on each other !!
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Aditya my apologies, I meant it for Ratinarace
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30 Nov 2016, 06:56
sdas wrote:
Timmy is learning about the war in which much of Europe will be reduced to rubble

A. .....
B. Timmy learned about the war in which much of Europe had been reduced to rubble
C. Timmy had learned about the war in which much of Europe was reduced to rubble
D, Timmy has learned about the war in which much of Europe must have been bee reduced to rubble
E. Timmy learned about the war in which much of Europe was reduced to rubble

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There are 2 events here:
Event 1: A war X reduced Europe to rubble
Event 2: Timmy learned about the war X

These 2 events are very much related and should have sequencing in place. It can never happen that Timmy learned about the war before the war actually happened. Hence Past perfect should be used.
So my choice would be Option:B, in which Event 1 is Past Perfect(Europe reduced to rubble) and Event 2 in Simple Past ( Timmy learned about the war)

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