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Today anthropologists realize that there is great diversity [#permalink] New post 14 May 2005, 14:15
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Today anthropologists realize that there is great diversity among hunter-gatherer societies, and those that have persisted into this century had long before been altered by their contacts with agricultural peoples.

a. among hunter-gatherer societies, and those that have persisted
b. among hunter-gatherer societies, and those persisting
c. among hunter-gatherer societies, and that those persisting
d. between hunter-gatherer societies, and those that have persisted
e. between hunter-gatherer societies, and that those persisting
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Re: SC - Anthropologists [#permalink] New post 18 May 2005, 15:12
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Today anthropologists realize that there is great diversity among hunter-gatherer societies, and those that have persisted into this century had long before been altered by their contacts with agricultural peoples.

a. among hunter-gatherer societies, and those that have persisted
b. among hunter-gatherer societies, and those persisting
c. among hunter-gatherer societies, and that those persisting
d. between hunter-gatherer societies, and those that have persisted
e. between hunter-gatherer societies, and that those persisting


SuperCat:- Any analysis on this question? I would love to read your explanation


I agree with (C), exactly as MBAMantra posted,

Today anthropologists realize
that there is great diversity among hunter-gatherer societies, and
that those persisting into this century had long before been altered by their contacts with agricultural peoples.


Moreover, the sentences using choices (A) and (B) do not make sense, although that may not be blatantly obvious. But read the sentence and think about what it's telling you. You should have a reason for connecting two independent clauses to form one compound sentence.

The clauses are:
1) Anthropologists realize that there is great diversity among H-G societies
2) Those persisting [or that have persisted] into this century had long before been altered.

Those two messages are not immediatley related to each other. (If you think they are, you are assuming too much.) It's not enough that both are facts about hunter-gatherers. If I said "My car has leather seats, and I had to fix a flat tire last week," that is a weird-sounding sentence, because I'm combining two unrelated facts about my car into one sentence, for no good reason.

Choices (A) and (B) just ram these two unrelated clauses together into one sentence, and it causes a bit of cognitive dissonance. These should not be together in one sentence without some element to explain why they are related.

(C) is different. The placement of THAT changes the overall message substantially. Everything is related. This says that Anthropologists realize X and Y, where Y = "hunter-gatherer societies persisting into this century had long before been altered by their contacts with agricultural peoples."

Now, X and Y are related in that they are both realizations made by anthropologists. Now we have a sensible sentence listing two realizations of anthroplogists.
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Re: SC - Anthropologists [#permalink] New post 14 May 2005, 16:02
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Will choose E
vithal, what is your reason behind E. pls explain. because of this century?
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Re: SC - Anthropologists [#permalink] New post 14 May 2005, 16:26
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Will choose E
vithal, what is your reason behind E. pls explain. because of this century?


IMO, none of the choices looks correct!

here is the twisted logic (which could in all probability be incorrect)

(i) between vs among - I chose between as we are comparing two scocities
(ii) was trying to look for parallelism (realize that...and that)

but I guess those in E does not have any antecedent - will change my answer to D based on this - but I would still say that all the options are poorly constructed
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 [#permalink] New post 14 May 2005, 16:34
Got to go with E.


I also chose "between" as we are just comparing two things here.

So choices are D or E.

In D: "and those that have persisted" does not work with the verb "had"

the sentence. You wouldn't say that those that have persisted had been changed. (This is wordy and awkward).

You would say that those persisting had been changed.
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Re: SC - Anthropologists [#permalink] New post 14 May 2005, 16:39
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but I would still say that all the options are poorly constructed

Vithal, Get used to these kind of questions - this one is from a retired ETS paper test
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Re: SC - Anthropologists [#permalink] New post 14 May 2005, 16:42
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Will choose E
vithal, what is your reason behind E. pls explain. because of this century?

IMO, none of the choices looks correct!
here is the twisted logic (which could in all probability be incorrect)
(i) between vs among - I chose between as we are comparing two scocities
(ii) was trying to look for parallelism (realize that...and that)
but I guess those in E does not have any antecedent - will change my answer to D based on this - but I would still say that all the options are poorly constructed


i noted that, a parallel construction, too and D too has that.
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 [#permalink] New post 14 May 2005, 16:45
I think it is (C).
Today anthropologists realize that there is great diversity among hunter-gatherer societies, and that those persisting into this century had long before been altered by their contacts with agricultural peoples.

Two dependent clause are parallel. Also note that their tenses are different.

Both (D) and (E) are wrong.
(D): between hunter-gatherer societies, and those that have persisted into this century had long before been altered by their contacts with agricultural peoples.

After seeing portion in red and blue, immediately we should deduce that something is missing.

(E): between: Improper comparison
between hunter-gatherer societies, and that those persisting
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 [#permalink] New post 14 May 2005, 19:50
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I think it is (C).
Today anthropologists realize that there is great diversity among hunter-gatherer societies, and that those persisting into this century had long before been altered by their contacts with agricultural peoples.

Two dependent clause are parallel. Also note that their tenses are different.

Both (D) and (E) are wrong.
(D): between hunter-gatherer societies, and those that have persisted into this century had long before been altered by their contacts with agricultural peoples.

After seeing portion in red and blue, immediately we should deduce that something is missing.

(E): between: Improper comparison
between hunter-gatherer societies, and that those persisting


jpv: can you tell what is the antecedent of those in the clause
after and that ?
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 [#permalink] New post 15 May 2005, 05:36
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jpv: can you tell what is the antecedent of those in the clause
after and that ?


those -> hunter gathering societies.


Today anthropologists realize that there is great diversity among hunter-gatherer societies, and those that have persisted into this century had long before been altered by their contacts with agricultural peoples

main clause + dependent clause1 + conjuction + dependent clause2

my questions is whether pronoun in DC2 can refer to a noun in DC1?

IMO those does not clearly refer to the hunter-gathering societies.
the sentence should stand without any one of the parallel elements.

For eg: He called the meeting to inform the employees about the loss and to get their feedback on the new proposal.

Do you think the above sentence is correct?
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 [#permalink] New post 15 May 2005, 09:49
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For eg: He called the meeting to inform the employees about the loss and to get their feedback on the new proposal.

Do you think the above sentence is correct?


I dont know about grammatical aspect but I will accept the above sentence because it is unambiguous. "their" clearly refers to "employees".
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 [#permalink] New post 15 May 2005, 10:01
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For eg: He called the meeting to inform the employees about the loss and to get their feedback on the new proposal.

Do you think the above sentence is correct?


I dont know about grammatical aspect but I will accept the above sentence because it is unambiguous. "their" clearly refers to "employees".


How about the following sentence then?
The supervisors called the meeting to inform the employees and the contractors about the loss and to get their feedback on the new proposal.
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 [#permalink] New post 15 May 2005, 10:14
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How about the following sentence then?
The supervisors called the meeting to inform the employees and the contractors about the loss and to get their feedback on the new proposal.


I think this is wrong.
I/you can call for a meeting to take either ur opinion or my opinion.
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 [#permalink] New post 15 May 2005, 11:47
Today anthropologists realize that there is great diversity among hunter-gatherer societies, and those that have persisted into this century had long before been altered by their contacts with agricultural peoples.

a. among hunter-gatherer societies, and those that have persisted
b. among hunter-gatherer societies, and those persisting
c. among hunter-gatherer societies, and that those persisting
d. between hunter-gatherer societies, and those that have persisted
e. between hunter-gatherer societies, and that those persisting


hunter-gatherer society is being compared with all other societies but others have been grouped together so comparison is between two.

I choose "between" -> eliminated a/b/c

to refer to other societies as a group , it should be that those not those that.

so my answer is 'E'
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 [#permalink] New post 15 May 2005, 11:56
D. I used the golden GMAT rule here - avoid ing forms at any costs
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 [#permalink] New post 15 May 2005, 23:11
I would go for C.


As the two clauses are parallel. so Anthropologist realize that there is diversity among societies and that those(societies) persisting into this century..../

OA Please....
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 [#permalink] New post 16 May 2005, 04:18
I think it is A.

Among sounds good though we cannot refute if there are only 2 societies.
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 [#permalink] New post 16 May 2005, 04:42
another one for C. parallel construction (that) is there and there are definitely more than 2 of those societies (among)
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 [#permalink] New post 16 May 2005, 06:22
Good question. After rereading it several times over with D and E, E is the only choice that maintains a smooth flow to the sentence.
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 [#permalink] New post 16 May 2005, 08:36
C.
reasons
1. stem is comparing several societies that is why "among " is used.
2. parallalism.

Today anthropologists realize
that there is great diversity among hunter-gatherer societies, and
that those persisting into this century had long before been altered by their contacts with agricultural peoples.
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