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Re: TOEFL Instructional videos - Speaking & Writing Very useful [#permalink] New post 06 Feb 2012, 23:18
Congrats ;) Very good result. A 26 in speaking is very good! Have you applied one to one the recommendations from notefull's YT videos? I mean, in Barrons & Cambridge prep materials there are sometimes totally different tasks, wchih make those structures inapplicable.

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Re: TOEFL Instructional videos - Speaking & Writing Very useful [#permalink] New post 07 Feb 2012, 00:03
Very useful. Thanks for posting.
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Re: TOEFL Instructional videos - Speaking & Writing Very useful [#permalink] New post 07 Feb 2012, 12:23
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Have you applied one to one the recommendations from notefull's YT videos? I mean, in Barrons & Cambridge prep materials there are sometimes totally different tasks, wchih make those structures inapplicable.

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Nope, I tried that initially with 2 speaking tests but didn't work out well. What I liked was the approach, points to concentrate on, how to break it down and get the gist of the conversations. Once I understood how it needs to be broken down, it was easy.

Just a suggestion, try not to go through too much material, just concentrate on the Official Guide, that is the only book I referred to. And then I did the Kaplan's 4 tests that come along with the Kaplan book. And to improve on your speaking, redo the the same speaking tests 2-3 times, and you would understand how easy it is the break down the passage and conversations to give a good response. Take notes when while you listen, it really helps. The 2 sections on the speaking were tough for me, because not being a native speaker you cannot be fluent and quickly respond to the topics. On the rest, the content is already there, you just need to present it, which I thought is easier.

And the last part is the essays, read at least 25 sample essays on each section to get an idea of how to present an essay. Good opening, structure, vocabulary, examples and a impressive conclusion will earn you very good points. Don't worry too much about the grammar, your content should be understood when read. (the last one is for non-natives)

I was however a little disappointed with my speaking and writing score, I had expected at least 28 on each. And again, don't let your performance on the Kaplan tests disappoint you, just practice them again and again, you will do very good on the real one.
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Re: TOEFL Instructional videos - Speaking & Writing Very useful [#permalink] New post 07 Feb 2012, 13:53
Thanks very much for the detailed answer!

I get your point - I notice how notefull's videos seem to follow a structure, but if you practice oo much with them, you start having problems when you get a task which is slightly different. That's why in the end of the day, you should just break down the problem into components and present it logically in those 45 sec. I've practised some writing as well, there again, used some of the recommenden layouts things should be fine. Hope to get something around 110-115.

Is Kaplan representative of the difficulty of the real TOEFL or is the real test more difficult?

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Re: TOEFL Instructional videos - Speaking & Writing Very useful [#permalink] New post 07 Feb 2012, 14:09
Kaplan TOEFL is slightly tougher than the actual TOEFL test, I think they feel proud in being the toughest. They follow the same pattern on their GMAT books and practice tests. ;-)

On the actual test, I got 2 passages with difficulty levels equivalent to those on the TOEFL OG, and 2 passages which can be rated somewhere between the OG and the Kaplan tests. But then, I feel you have to be really unlucky to get 4 passages and that too with a higher difficulty level.

I would say 110 is achievable, 115 is slightly tough, as you have to ace all the sections. I know I had spoken and written pretty well, but still scored less on those sections. But aim high, and you will be around it, if not exact. :-)

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Re: TOEFL Instructional videos - Speaking & Writing Very useful [#permalink] New post 08 Feb 2012, 04:18
Hi ivn490,

again thanks. Information is very helpful. I have already completed the 4 Kaplan test and find them acceptable (in my eyes as well tougher than ETS OG). Even harder are the Cambridge reading extracts. But as I achieve somewhere between 27-29 on Reading and Listening on Cambridge and Kaplan, until Saturday I will focus more on Speaking (YouTube) and Writing(some sample essays). Will post a detailed debrief the next days, in order to share my experience (prep matrials included).

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Re: TOEFL Instructional videos - Speaking & Writing Very useful [#permalink] New post 28 Jun 2012, 13:46
(Note: I'm re-posting here a message I published on another topic since it seems more appropriate to publish it here; I hope the moderator won't chop my head off)

Thanks everyone for all the information we're having here it's really useful.

I'm currently preparing myself for the TOEFL. I'd already taken it back in 2009, but with no preparation whatsoever and without any significant english-speaking experience abroad. I succeeded in getting a 94 but totally failed at the speaking section (got 20) then.

Now I'm in a different mindset / different conditions: I've lived and studied a couple of years in English-speaking places between 2009 and 2011 and am also willing to work a bit on the "strategic" aspects this time. I've taken a few tests with a software called Thompson's Complete Guide to the TOEFL to do so, but am a bit disappointed to get around 26-27 for the reading and listening sections. I'd rather go for a 29-30 actually Has anyone used this software? I thought that possibly their tests are a bit tough, or am I just being too demanding on myself?
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Re: TOEFL Instructional videos - Speaking & Writing Very useful [#permalink] New post 16 Jul 2012, 07:54
... So I've just received my TOEFL score and am a tad disappointed: 26 Reading - 27 Listening - 24 Speaking - 24 Writing. Surely it's a decent score overall and that's actually enough to get me admitted into the Master's programmes I'm thinking of as they require only 100 (and that makes me a nice 101 :) ) but I know I could definitely have scored higher.

My advice for anyone who'll take it:
-Reading section: Be really concentrated. It's not that hard since you just have to manage your time very carefully. I guess I personally wasted my points because I wasn't concentrated quite properly, maybe because I slept very little the night before the test.

-Listening section: Once again you need to focus; in my case some stupid examiner got into the classroom where we were taking it and I got distracted from a dialogue section that definitely cost me one or two questions.

-Speaking section: Manage your time well. I tried to conclude my speeches and in many cases I got cut at this point so I would presume I essentially lost points with that.

-Writing section: Be extremely concentrated on the first part since you'll basically have to write down everything afterwards (the Professor's speech on the passage that will not disappear while you'll be writing). Oddly I lost points on that part so I presume that I missed one idea from the Professor or something. The second part should not cause particular difficulty since it's an open essay and if you know how to write it shouldn't be very difficult.

I am not satisfied since I was hoping more for a R 29 - L 29 - S 25 - W 29 kind of result but anyway, I guess I'll have to take it again in the future if I apply for a very selective school.

And by the way the Thomson's guide thing is quite good in my view. Their tests are not way more difficult or easier than those of the d-day.

Good luck everyone!
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Re: TOEFL Instructional videos - Speaking & Writing Very useful [#permalink] New post 12 Sep 2012, 22:42
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Re: TOEFL Instructional videos - Speaking & Writing Very useful [#permalink] New post 03 Dec 2012, 19:00
I got my score today with Reading 18,Listening 22,speaking 24 & Writing 28, a total of 92.
Please suggest me whether sectional cutoffs are required by the universities, and even if they require then do i need to take the test again keeping in mind that i have 18 in Reading?

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Re: TOEFL Instructional videos - Speaking & Writing Very useful [#permalink] New post 13 Dec 2012, 03:28
Thank you for adding this thread with the http://www.notefull.com videos.I scored 92 on the test with 3-4 hours of preparation, these videos helped me the most :P for speaking section.You need nothing more than these videos for speaking section.GMAT aspirants are automatically good in Reading & writing (Thanks to the dense verbal passages and AWA section) Listening will be easier with the TOEFL Official Guide pracs.
You can read the post right above , i was very upset for what i got, I was 92 & out :( but now i am happy because i am fulfilling the criteria of the colleges shortlisted by me :)

I'll advice u guys to take this test seriously :idea: , because a good TOEFL will be counted for your graduate assistantship (and many more) and trust me , one week (2-3 hrs a day) will ensure a minimum of 100 scores(considering you worked and studied in English medium atmosphere). :roll:

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Re: TOEFL Instructional videos - Speaking & Writing Very useful [#permalink] New post 13 Dec 2012, 11:10
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tell me the question and I provide you what you need to pass the threshold of 100.



Thank you Carcass for your humble gesture. I wanted to know that whether universities look for specific scores in the various sections of the TOEFL. I've got the answer that It depends upon the university , such as a college in NY requires overall TOEFL score of 103 with no section should have less than 24 (R/L/S/W).

I figured this out and found that the colleges i am forwarding my application only looks for the overall score and there are no sectional cut offs, so i am not going to retake the TOEFL.
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Sorry thevenus but I do not understand your point :(

tell me the question and I provide you what you need to pass the threshold of 100.



Thank you Carcass for your humble gesture. I wanted to know that whether universities look for specific scores in the various sections of the TOEFL. I've got the answer that It depends upon the university , such as a college in NY requires overall TOEFL score of 103 with no section should have less than 24 (R/L/S/W).

I figured this out and found that the colleges i am forwarding my application only looks for the overall score and there are no sectional cut offs, so i am not going to retake the TOEFL.



The answer I'll give is based on what I infer after several months on forum, blog, the same universities requirements and so on.......

It is true that the schools look at the overall score, and in particular some of them care about of the speaking part and writing part of the exam.

Though, I think that GMAT and TOEFL test different things.

For instance: what about if you have a good score on verbal gmat and an average score in the reading part of TOEFL ?? maybe you are good at CR and SC but not in reading OR RC and SC OR RC and CR, so the school do not know precisely where is your stand point .....

To make a long story short: for me the 2 exams do not overlap (or at least only in part).

My opinnion: your score is good, in particular if is coupled with a good gmat score but if you have time money (it costs, I know) try to break the 100 score.

here a couple of things that would be helpful

READING

What is useful for the gmat, is useful for toefl. the only different is this: do not bother you to read the passage entirely: the answers follow the conseguence of the text from the first one to the last one. Simply spot the answer choice with the relative paragraph or if the question is : to what IT refers: read only the reference. that's it. I hope is clear

LISTENING

http://www.businessenglishmaterials.com/

http://www.breakingnewsenglish.com/

http://www.english-test.net/toefl/liste ... .html#list

http://www.elllo.org/

http://www.toeflblog.com/tag/toefl-listening/

Speaking and Writing

toefl-instructional-videos-speaking-writing-very-useful-100611.html

http://www.r-i-s-e.net/TOEFL_iBT.html

http://www.r-i-s-e.net/sptps/intro_a_j2 ... ds76u.html

http://jasonrenshaw.typepad.com/ibt_speaking_writing/

TESTS

http://testden.com/

http://i-courses.org/toefl-ibt-test/free-sample-test/

http://www.toeflsim.net/

Last but not Least

Official Guide http://www.amazon.com/Official-Guide-TO ... l+official

Is the same of the third edition, nothing of important is changed.

The best book for preparation without doubt

http://www.amazon.com/The-Complete-Guid ... l+official

Thougher than the OG

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Re: TOEFL Instructional videos - Speaking & Writing Very useful [#permalink] New post 08 Jan 2013, 22:53
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Re: TOEFL Instructional videos - Speaking & Writing Very useful [#permalink] New post 19 Jan 2013, 06:01
How come the 6th video for speaking section is not working any more?
Does anyone of you have notes how to structure the answer and take notes for 6th question?
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Re: TOEFL Instructional videos - Speaking & Writing Very useful [#permalink] New post 28 Jan 2013, 14:41
Thanks much ! These videos are extremely helpful for me !
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Re: TOEFL Instructional videos - Speaking & Writing Very useful [#permalink] New post 30 Jan 2013, 00:01
This is rearding Q1 in Writing section. The video talks about a specific structure i.e. Opinion then Reason 1 etc etc. But on internet and Barron book I found different kinds of passages. Some where just explanatory biology passages or arts passages.

Can anyone please confirm in the real test what kind of passage comes...???
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Re: TOEFL Instructional videos - Speaking & Writing Very useful [#permalink] New post 13 Feb 2013, 04:14
Thanks so much for these videos, they were very helpful. I watched them one day before my TOEFL test, and I scored 28 on the Speaking section and 29 on the Writing section!
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