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Too old to bear arms himself, Frederick Douglass served as a recruiting agent, traveled through the North to exhort Black men to join the Union army.

(A) traveled through the North to exhort
(B) and he traveled through the North and exhorted
(C) and traveling through the North exhorted
(D) traveling through the North and exhorted
(E) traveling through the North and exhorting


For me is between D and E
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Re: Frederick Douglass [#permalink] New post 18 May 2010, 06:22
I narrowed it to C and E.

Is OA (E)?
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Re: Frederick Douglass [#permalink] New post 21 May 2010, 11:43
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parallelism question ... don't let gmat confuse you with superficial parallelism, as manhattan gmat calls it

doug served as recruiter, traveled the east and hired employees
here each verb has equal emphasis

doug served as recruiter, traveling the east and hiring employees
here serve as recruiter is the main verb .... traveling and hiring are subordinate verbs .. doug traveled and hired while he served as recruiter

in the problem, travel and exhort are subordinate verbs

D: not parallel; travelling .. and exhorted
E: parallel and correct use of subordinate verb; traveling .. and exhorting

so E it is

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Re: Frederick Douglass [#permalink] New post 23 May 2010, 11:27
Hey All,

For what it's worth, just wanted to lend my bit of street cred to Dimitri's explanation, which is exactly right. Working out where the list starts here is paramount, and the reason we know that it begins with "traveling" instead of "served" is because logic tells us the portion after the comma here is subordinate to the first, rather than separate actions. Well done, Dimitri!

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Re: Frederick Douglass [#permalink] New post 23 May 2010, 17:36
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Too old to bear arms himself, Frederick Douglass served as a recruiting agent, traveled through the North to exhort Black men to join the Union army.

(A) traveled through the North to exhort
(B) and he traveled through the North and exhorted
(C) and traveling through the North exhorted
(D) traveling through the North and exhorted
(E) traveling through the North and exhorting


For me is between D and E


The way I picked between D and E was through modifiers . The present participle can modify the noun Frederick Douglass from far away while the past participle has to touch. i.e The broken door
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Re: Frederick Douglass [#permalink] New post 24 May 2010, 12:07
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Hey Detran,

Sorry to butt in, but the explanation you gave isn't actually right. Participles (present or past) always have to touch what they're modifying if it's a noun, though they can be far away if it's a verb.

In this case, we have a LIST of modifiers, which is why one of them doesn't really get to touch (there are two of them), though it does touch in a more figurative, grammatical way. In other words, I could say:

The man born of a serpent and forged in the fires of hardship was my best friend.

Notice how "forged" is a past participle, but it doesn't touch "man". This is because it's part of a list of two participles ("born" and "forged"), and both of them can't touch (it would be physically impossible). This is NOT because past participles have any different rules surrounding them then present participles.

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Re: Frederick Douglass [#permalink] New post 24 May 2010, 22:06
Good one discussed by Tommy Thanku
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Re: Frederick Douglass [#permalink] New post 15 May 2011, 16:36
TommyWallach wrote:
Hey Detran,

Sorry to butt in, but the explanation you gave isn't actually right. Participles (present or past) always have to touch what they're modifying if it's a noun, though they can be far away if it's a verb.

In this case, we have a LIST of modifiers, which is why one of them doesn't really get to touch (there are two of them), though it does touch in a more figurative, grammatical way. In other words, I could say:

The man born of a serpent and forged in the fires of hardship was my best friend.

Notice how "forged" is a past participle, but it doesn't touch "man". This is because it's part of a list of two participles ("born" and "forged"), and both of them can't touch (it would be physically impossible). This is NOT because past participles have any different rules surrounding them then present participles.

Hope that makes sense!

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I hope I can modify your sentence to include present participles as modifiers as well.
"The man born of a serpent and forging in the fires of hardship is my best friend."

Following the same case, my question is why can't we choose [highlight]"traveled" as in (A)[/highlight] upon [highlight]"traveling" as in (E)[/highlight] as modifier?

The verb traveled in A is not parallel to "served" because it has to act as a modifier as there is no preceding conjunction.

What is the logic to get rid of A?
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Re: Frederick Douglass [#permalink] New post 16 May 2011, 08:00
subordinate verbs in participle format.
E.
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Re: Frederick Douglass [#permalink] New post 16 May 2011, 08:08
amit2k9 wrote:
subordinate verbs in participle format.
E.


Hey Amit, is there any logic you have to say that "served" in choice A is not in participle format? As per my observation it is in past participle. And if we agree that it is in past participle in A, we would like to know how do you prefer E over A?
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