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Too old to Rock'n'Roll, too young to die: 36 y/o, 740 GMAT

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Too old to Rock'n'Roll, too young to die: 36 y/o, 740 GMAT [#permalink] New post 15 Sep 2010, 00:53
1) Basic demographic info: 36, M
I live in France since 2001, but I'm not French.

2) Educational Background:
One of the best Engineering schools in my own country, and one of the best Economics schools
Graduated from both in 1997
GPA = 4.8/5 in Engineering School, about 4.3/5 in Economics school
GMAT 740 (Q48, V44) (my debrief post: http://gmatclub.com/forum/740-q48-v44-not-bad-for-a-human-100954.html )

3) Work experience:
Current experience: 1 year in Project Management and Management Consulting (small company, but some big projects).
Previous experience: 9 years in Research center.
Before previous experience: 3 years in Management consulting company in home country (small company, small projects).

Current role - consultant. Actually - planning services on the major transport infrastructure project in France.
Promotions - NO and nothing on the horizon. This is the principal reason why I want to make an MBA (see below).

4) Extracurriculars:
Nothing special. Have enough fun with my family - 2 children 5 & 7 years, if you know what I mean ;)

5) Short/Long term goals:
Short term: Get a job in some good/big consulting company to deal with the energy related projects (preferably, renewables and/or sustainability)
Long term/short term: Managerial position in big Energy company in the renewables/sustainability department.

Geographic preferences: France, with some stretch - Europe, with too much stretch - my home country, but not for a long time.

6) Schools:
In order of preference:
1. INSEAD (really best choice)
2. IMD (accept elder candidates)
3. HEC Paris (geographically convenient)
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Brief story to explain my situation.

I came to France to make a PhD thesis in economics (it was essentially macroeconomic modeling).
Unfortunately, I realized afterwards that I wasn't really made for science work, publishing articles didn't interest me. That's why I never finished the thesis, but continued to work in the same research center - I changed the subject to work on electrification projects, I had a lot of free time to spend with my little children, but not much money.

So finally, I decided to find a real job in France, and that turned out to be really difficult, because it was after crisis time. My diplomas said nothing to potential employers, my work experience in research (even though I worked with real electrification projects, not just theoretical constructions) was considered more or less waste of time, and my age prevented me from entering on the beginners' positions. Finally, I found a job in a small consulting company dealing with project management, but a very limited career progress is possible in this field with the salary ceiling too low.

Now I need something to boost my career. I would like to work in the energy field as I have nevertheless experience in the renewables, sustainability, developing world, international donors etc. Ideally, that could be Strategy consulting companies or Energy majors. But I am ready to make a complete subject switch if it will give me a high-paid job (you know, I have to assume my family responsibilities ;) )
I prefer to work in France for family reasons, but would be ready to move somewhere in Europe.

So I told myself that an MBA from a top school may be valuable. Because of my age, it is rational to choose only 1-year programs, hence European Schools. Fortunately, I live in Paris so I have INSEAD and HEC close to me. I also considered IMD as they normally accept senior candidates, but I think they really require people with confirmed career progress, something that I don't have. For the same reason the EMBA is neither good for me, as it is made for people who are already on a good career track and who want to make it even better.

To sum up, I need to put something really valuable on my CV to counterbalance my years in science. I need to skip some steps to catch up my career progress.

So, my questions are:
1. Do you think that in my situation full time MBA from European school may help?
2. Do you think I am still eligible for an MBA from a top European school? (I understand that if I were about 6 years younger I would be a good candidate for INSEAD, but I can't just reedit my birth certificate ;) )
3. Do you think that a second tier MBA (there are some in France) is worthwhile investment in my situation?
4. Do you think there are other possible shortcuts to get out of the mess that I'm currently stuck in (especially, if some of you know the particularities of French job and education market)?

All comments are welcome!

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Re: Too old to Rock'n'Roll, too young to die: 36 y/o, 740 GMAT [#permalink] New post 15 Sep 2010, 03:11
congrats sir
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Re: Too old to Rock'n'Roll, too young to die: 36 y/o, 740 GMAT [#permalink] New post 15 Sep 2010, 04:42
hi... i am actually stuck in a similar position here in the US and was also looking to do a 1 year MBA to change field or atleast get a bump in my field (manufacturing/engg.). I havent made much progress in terms of promotions/leadership positions to go for EMBA (it takes longer and is more expensive).. hence I think your plan is solid and rational.

others please chime in....at this point its a good idea.
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Re: Too old to Rock'n'Roll, too young to die: 36 y/o, 740 GMAT [#permalink] New post 15 Sep 2010, 07:30
Look into the top Emba programs, you have a great profile and GMAT.
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Re: Too old to Rock'n'Roll, too young to die: 36 y/o, 740 GMAT [#permalink] New post 15 Sep 2010, 07:44
great score first of all! I think you are at an age to get EMBA. Many B school has them so you gotta do some research there. I know Duke have councilors working to find if the person is a "good fit" for EMBA so there's probably some preliminary screenings... good luck!
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Re: Too old to Rock'n'Roll, too young to die: 36 y/o, 740 GMAT [#permalink] New post 27 Sep 2010, 13:51
shaselai wrote:
great score first of all! I think you are at an age to get EMBA. Many B school has them so you gotta do some research there. I know Duke have councilors working to find if the person is a "good fit" for EMBA so there's probably some preliminary screenings... good luck!

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Look into the top Emba programs, you have a great profile and GMAT.

The problem with the EMBA is that this type of program is tailored for the candidates who are already on the good career path. EMBA helps you to skip several steps on career ladder but not the first ones. Typically, it is for someone who reached a ceiling in his functional progression (so, he is a highly qualified but narrow specialist) and he is ready to switch for managerial position but lacks managerial knowledge and experience. That's why a large number of EMBA students are financed by their companies, and that's why the EMBAs are much more expensive than the corresponding full time MBAs.
Well, that is my vision of the EMBA vs full time MBA programs. Probably, I misinterpret the situation, so please, correct me.

pranrasvij wrote:
hi... i am actually stuck in a similar position here in the US and was also looking to do a 1 year MBA to change field or atleast get a bump in my field (manufacturing/engg.). I havent made much progress in terms of promotions/leadership positions to go for EMBA (it takes longer and is more expensive).. hence I think your plan is solid and rational.

others please chime in....at this point its a good idea.

Today I was on a on-site visit to HEC full time program. Good news: their age range seems to be more stretchable than in INSEAD, I was told that there is one student in the last year's intake who was more than 40, and I saw several students who were well in their thirties.

HEC seems also to appreciate the good GMAT score, since their actual average is 690.
The problem is that their program is 16 months vs 10 months in INSEAD, so you have to stay half a year more without a job, but on the other hand these additional months can be used for internships and the last six months are largely dedicated to job search and career building activities.

To sum up, I think that I'll make particular emphasis on the HEC application, as I think that I have a good chance to be admitted there.
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Re: Too old to Rock'n'Roll, too young to die: 36 y/o, 740 GMAT [#permalink] New post 27 Sep 2010, 13:54
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And, the last but not the least, the HEC has one of the strongest alumni network and it is particularly appreciated in French job market, so that fits perfectly to my plans to find a good job in France.
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