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 24 Apr 2012, 20:26
aazhar wrote: bartthecartoon wrote: I don't expect this to sway your opinion since it seems like you have already made up your mind to go to Hult. However, I'm going to throw this out there for anyone else who might be thinking that Hult is a better option than a top US program. In 2009, 3 months after graduation 87% of the HBS graduates had accepted an offer. In 2009, 2 days before graduation "more than 40% of Hult's Dubai 2009 graduates [had] already accepted a post-MBA job, or [were] screening offers". This may not be a perfect comparison since the Hult MBA data wasn't 3 months after graduation (this was the only data that I could quickly find). However, I think it shows that top US business schools are still far ahead of Hult when it comes to placing students. Sources: http://www.ameinfo.com/206850.htmlhttp://www.hbs.edu/about/annualreport/2 ... l-2009.pdfHahahaha........Sorry dude but your post was hilarious. that was the only information you could find?.........a three year old first batch report?..............you gotta work on your google skills man......a simple google searchwill show you 78% students found jobs within 3 months of graduation........Also, according to Financial Times.......82% found jobs within 3 months of gradation. Now just smile and tell me Hult and FT are all just a fraud!!!!!!  Cheers! http://rankings.ft.com/businessschoolra ... kings-2012http://www.hult.edu/en/programs/mba/car ... -overview/I wasn't willing to take more than a minute to search Google because you've made it clear that you won't listen to anyone that doesn't bow down to Hult's greatness. But since you've now attacked me I feel the need to spend a few extra minutes to defend myself. First of all, the 78% that you quoted is an average from all of Hult's campuses. Since you are interested in the Dubai one, don't you think that it might make more sense to use the Dubai campus's rate? Here it is, 74%: http://www.hult.edu/en/programs/mba/car ... ment-rate/Second, can it be true? Does HBS actually have a better placement rate than Hult?! Hult's 74% 3-month out rate at the Dubai campus compares to 93% at HBS. Both of these numbers are for the 2011 class. Source for HBS data: http://www.hbs.edu/about/statistics/mba.htmlThird, I still believe that 2009 data is valid. It shows what happens in an economic crisis, hiring in Dubai goes way down. Which is why at graduation in 2009, 40% were employed from Hult and 77% were employed at HBS.
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24 Apr 2012, 20:31
aazhar wrote: bartthecartoon wrote: I don't expect this to sway your opinion since it seems like you have already made up your mind to go to Hult. However, I'm going to throw this out there for anyone else who might be thinking that Hult is a better option than a top US program. In 2009, 3 months after graduation 87% of the HBS graduates had accepted an offer. In 2009, 2 days before graduation "more than 40% of Hult's Dubai 2009 graduates [had] already accepted a post-MBA job, or [were] screening offers". This may not be a perfect comparison since the Hult MBA data wasn't 3 months after graduation (this was the only data that I could quickly find). However, I think it shows that top US business schools are still far ahead of Hult when it comes to placing students. Sources: http://www.ameinfo.com/206850.htmlhttp://www.hbs.edu/about/annualreport/2 ... l-2009.pdfHahahaha........Sorry dude but your post was hilarious. that was the only information you could find?.........a three year old first batch report?..............you gotta work on your google skills man......a simple google searchwill show you 78% students found jobs within 3 months of graduation........Also, according to Financial Times.......82% found jobs within 3 months of gradation. Now just smile and tell me Hult and FT are all just a fraud!!!!!! Cheers! http://rankings.ft.com/businessschoolra ... kings-2012http://www.hult.edu/en/programs/mba/car ... -overview/Now I don't want to come off as a dick and I'll be the first to admit that I'm 1) no pro about b-school and 2) know next to nothing about Hult, but I'm not seeing where these stats make sense. Everything I've put Hult up against even in the Top 25 Hult falls well short... notably the job placement rankings (I don't know how these are determined, sorry): http://rankings.ft.com/businessschoolra ... 81&title=1So yeah, just by poking around a bit on FT Hult does not seem bad by any means, but it doesn't seem to stand up with the top US schools. Again, I am no expert in b-schools or Hult so I could be wrong and am more than happy to admit if I am. Just adding my two cents to the pot.
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Re: Top US MBA vs. Hult MBA Dubai [#permalink]
24 Apr 2012, 21:18
oo yea i was spot on with my guestimation of ~70k starting salary from Hult Dubai http://www.hult.edu/en/programs/mba/car ... -increase/$73530 USD average + 78% of student body employed after 3 months. Like you said, you can make this much by utilizing your Engineering Degree from Purdue in ME working as a field engineer in O&G. So from your very first post we have you do some math, why pay 65k for a year of tuition and around 30k for 1 year of living expenses and forgo 1 year of lost wages for a chance at a salary that is comparable to what Mech E's from Purdue get in the Mid East anyways?
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Re: Top US MBA vs. Hult MBA Dubai [#permalink]
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Hello, I think we can take micro look at the placement report of hult, I am not saying hult is good or bad ( though i have a strong personal opinion ). The no of students reverting to placements survey needs to be taken into consideration, for example, if 80% students only revert to placement survery and out of which say 70% get job in six/three months, effectively 56% of the students are only getting placed. I know this is very simple approach with which everyone analyses the data, but there are institutes who give perfect calculation of rest of 20% who do not participate. At the end of the day, if i had to take decision, i would speak current students and alum to understand whats going on ?? Hope this helps
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aazhar, what was the point of starting this thread... You seem convinced that hult is the best fit for you...
You're a guy who lives in chicago, and went to school in indiana... OBVIOUSLY you'll have a better grasp on Dubai then someone who grew up in the ME and has actually lived in the city...
Good luck in your experiment.
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^^ MTE. OP, just shut up and go to Hult already. None of us will stand in your way.
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25 Apr 2012, 10:14
highwyre237 wrote: aazhar, what was the point of starting this thread... You seem convinced that hult is the best fit for you...
You're a guy who lives in chicago, and went to school in indiana... OBVIOUSLY you'll have a better grasp on Dubai then someone who grew up in the ME and has actually lived in the city...
Good luck in your experiment. This. Aazhar obviously has his mind made up,...sounds like he just started this thread for some validation,......which suggests to me that, deep down,..he's having some serious doubts about whether he's making the right decision. If he were truly confident in his choice,...he wouldn't be wasting his time on gmatclub trying to justify it. Aazhar,...if anything, your behaviour in this thread is proof that attending Hult Dubai would be a mistake.
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Re: Top US MBA vs. Hult MBA Dubai [#permalink]
26 Apr 2012, 13:43
MYCambridge wrote: ^^ MTE. OP, just shut up and go to Hult already. None of us will stand in your way. I live in Dubai. Hult Dubai is a joke and a diploma mill. To say their admissions process is relaxed is an understatement. You could get in with a GMAT of 210. But hey, you get to holiday in Dubai for one year.
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26 Apr 2012, 20:04
HULT may get you to a decent position out the door in Dubai but a top 10 MBA will open doors to a whole new range of opportunities. Also good luck finding a job in Dubai's current economic.
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Re: Top US MBA vs. Hult MBA Dubai [#permalink]
26 Apr 2012, 20:22
bartthecartoon wrote: aazhar wrote: bartthecartoon wrote: I don't expect this to sway your opinion since it seems like you have already made up your mind to go to Hult. However, I'm going to throw this out there for anyone else who might be thinking that Hult is a better option than a top US program. In 2009, 3 months after graduation 87% of the HBS graduates had accepted an offer. In 2009, 2 days before graduation "more than 40% of Hult's Dubai 2009 graduates [had] already accepted a post-MBA job, or [were] screening offers". This may not be a perfect comparison since the Hult MBA data wasn't 3 months after graduation (this was the only data that I could quickly find). However, I think it shows that top US business schools are still far ahead of Hult when it comes to placing students. Sources: http://www.ameinfo.com/206850.htmlhttp://www.hbs.edu/about/annualreport/2 ... l-2009.pdfHahahaha........Sorry dude but your post was hilarious. that was the only information you could find?.........a three year old first batch report?..............you gotta work on your google skills man......a simple google searchwill show you 78% students found jobs within 3 months of graduation........Also, according to Financial Times.......82% found jobs within 3 months of gradation. Now just smile and tell me Hult and FT are all just a fraud!!!!!! Cheers! http://rankings.ft.com/businessschoolra ... kings-2012http://www.hult.edu/en/programs/mba/car ... -overview/I wasn't willing to take more than a minute to search Google because you've made it clear that you won't listen to anyone that doesn't bow down to Hult's greatness. But since you've now attacked me I feel the need to spend a few extra minutes to defend myself. First of all, the 78% that you quoted is an average from all of Hult's campuses. Since you are interested in the Dubai one, don't you think that it might make more sense to use the Dubai campus's rate? Here it is, 74%: http://www.hult.edu/en/programs/mba/car ... ment-rate/Second, can it be true? Does HBS actually have a better placement rate than Hult?! Hult's 74% 3-month out rate at the Dubai campus compares to 93% at HBS. Both of these numbers are for the 2011 class. Source for HBS data: http://www.hbs.edu/about/statistics/mba.htmlThird, I still believe that 2009 data is valid. It shows what happens in an economic crisis, hiring in Dubai goes way down. Which is why at graduation in 2009, 40% were employed from Hult and 77% were employed at HBS. To your credit i didn't clarify that i was comparing Hult with the general top US MBAs. Not any particular school. Comparing Harvard to Hult doesn't make much sense for more than one reason. For one One Year MBA vs Two Year MBA etc etc etc. I don't have time to explain. You didn't get the point of the thread. My bad
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Re: Top US MBA vs. Hult MBA Dubai [#permalink]
26 Apr 2012, 20:34
aalba005 wrote: oo yea i was spot on with my guestimation of ~70k starting salary from Hult Dubai http://www.hult.edu/en/programs/mba/car ... -increase/$73530 USD average + 78% of student body employed after 3 months. Like you said, you can make this much by utilizing your Engineering Degree from Purdue in ME working as a field engineer in O&G. So from your very first post we have you do some math, why pay 65k for a year of tuition and around 30k for 1 year of living expenses and forgo 1 year of lost wages for a chance at a salary that is comparable to what Mech E's from Purdue get in the Mid East anyways? First of all, $73,000 is for students who studied at Dubai campus. If you scroll down on the same page, it is $106,000 for Hult students who found jobs in Middle East. Buddy, It isn't that simple to just sit here in US and get a job in ME. As everyone on this forum knows........MBA can open alot more oppurtunities. Alot of positions don't have a fixed salary. Your level of experience and qualification can increase that. For example, a Masters Engineering graduate can be paid more for the same position that just requires a Bachelors. About the $73K Hult Salary, i thought your friend earns only 40-50K working at E&Y? Where did you suggest 70K? In any case that batch had about only 15% "western" education/experience/citizenship students and you out of all people should know how that can effect salary in ME. That avg salary also include alot of people who got jobs in India. It does not include any housing or car allowance. So my dear friend, I will try to make more than that. And even if i don't .........working in US and making $110-120K gets down to $70K after tax loans anyways.
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Re: Top US MBA vs. Hult MBA Dubai [#permalink]
26 Apr 2012, 20:55
I know all you guys are looking to do your MBA and most of them from the US. The idea was not to degrade US schools but just to compare some of them with Hult. I didn't leave my family and travel 7000 miles to US if i didn't believe in quality of the schools here.
Lets say I want to live in ME for whatever reasons. Hult has the best MBA program in Middle East. It is hard to find a good job in ME while being in the US.
Now, i know some of you would be thinking why not go to B-School here and then go Middle East? That should get me a better job right?
Obviously, the more education and experience you take there the better you will be. But what is the end point of that cycle?
For example, one guy gets into Columbia and finds an awesome job in ME. Another guy went to Stanford and finds even a better and then some guy with 5 years of experience and MBA from HBS gets even a better job. Oh wait, then another guy went to Medical School and became a anesthesiologist and makes a millions dollars a year in ME.
Do you get me? Should a person just keep waiting for the best time to move? There is not end to that cycle.
So, my first post refers to the fact that the salaries in ME after going to Hult is very comparable to the top 25 US Programs. I know starting salary is not everything but it is metric i can use to compare, right? So that is what i was doing.
I am an idealist, i have my plan, i have my dream...............i'll find a way. No one really got the meaning of the thread infact most people were offended by my argument so i won't be posting any more on this thread.
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27 Apr 2012, 10:51
aazhar wrote: I know all you guys are looking to do your MBA and most of them from the US. The idea was not to degrade US schools but just to compare some of them with Hult. I didn't leave my family and travel 7000 miles to US if i didn't believe in quality of the schools here.
Lets say I want to live in ME for whatever reasons. Hult has the best MBA program in Middle East. It is hard to find a good job in ME while being in the US.
Now, i know some of you would be thinking why not go to B-School here and then go Middle East? That should get me a better job right?
Obviously, the more education and experience you take there the better you will be. But what is the end point of that cycle?
For example, one guy gets into Columbia and finds an awesome job in ME. Another guy went to Stanford and finds even a better and then some guy with 5 years of experience and MBA from HBS gets even a better job. Oh wait, then another guy went to Medical School and became a anesthesiologist and makes a millions dollars a year in ME.
Do you get me? Should a person just keep waiting for the best time to move? There is not end to that cycle.
So, my first post refers to the fact that the salaries in ME after going to Hult is very comparable to the top 25 US Programs. I know starting salary is not everything but it is metric i can use to compare, right? So that is what i was doing.
I am an idealist, i have my plan, i have my dream...............i'll find a way. No one really got the meaning of the thread infact most people were offended by my argument so i won't be posting any more on this thread. We aren't annoyed because you "degraded" US schools,...US schools are among the most respected in the world, they don't need us to defend them against Hult Dubai. We're annoyed because we are trying to give sincere advice/feedback,... but instead you want everyone to tell you how good your plan is and how everything will work out perfectly. You basically wasted our time just to get validation. Do what you want, nobody cares.
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Re: Top US MBA vs. Hult MBA Dubai [#permalink]
27 Apr 2012, 15:00
aalba005 wrote: aazhar wrote: ebonn101 wrote: I would recommend staying away from Hult. I don't think you're gonna gain a lot from getting your degree there, certainly not compared to a top MBA.
What good is the "reputation" of Cornell or Columbia if the bottom line figure is higher for Hult Dubai? The salary #'s for Hult are definately inflated and not represented for Middle East Employment just FYI. I doubt Hult graduates are getting offers from MBB or Top IBanks and even then the salary for a post MBA for a top US Grad to the region is 100k but i know students from the local top schools for MBA get ~70k. This is where I mentioned 70k. Also the figure you have for students working in the Middle East, you dont know which Hult Campus they came from since only ~50% of Hult Dubai stays in the region and 59% in total of Hult students change regions. (since your such a stickler for figures cant say for sure), all we can say for sure is how much students are getting out of Hult Dubai. Also you should realize that ~40% of the student body at Hult is over the age of 30 while you are comparing against U.S schools where the average age is 27-28. If you are so adament about working in the Middle East do yourself a favor and try to get into INSEAD, younger average age, much better brand in the Middle East than Hult, higher average salary, 1 year MBA just like Hult. You wont be living in the middle east right away but what is 1 year... quite a few Middle East firms recruit directly at INSEAD and INSEAD does multiple annual middle east career treks to network with prospective firms in the region. You also keep talking about loans if you went to a top U.S school, you do know Hult is not free right? Its 65k USD for the year.
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27 Apr 2012, 15:20
Totally agree and i have already thought of applying to INSEAD as well. Contary to popular belief on this thread, I have done my research. I don't want to go into too much detail here. Let me PM you.
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Re: Top US MBA vs. Hult MBA Dubai [#permalink]
07 Mar 2013, 00:37
MBA costs you a bit, so it's always better to do a detailed check before you apply at any school. Best way to start is to do a search on the ranking.
You would be surprised. A lot of them claiming to be the best are not even ranked in the top 50. Hult is currently ranked at 57, so it's definitely not worth my time or money.
You need to be sure of where you want your study to take you. You need to analyse the current scenario and keep an eye out on the future trends. Islamic banking, energy and government SME, for instance, are some of the sectors that are witnessing tremendous growth of late.
These days Islamic banking is growing 50% faster than the mainstream banking sector. I would definitely recommend it for a career investment. My preferred choice would be CASS because it is offering specialised electives in Islamic financing.
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07 Mar 2013, 15:14
So aazhar... Was it worth it to go to Hult Dubai?
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It's still interesting for me, is someone happy about HULT? Really hard to find an allumni from there.
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I really hope aazhar went to Hult, seems like a perfect fit.
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