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Thomas Jefferson, the muted public speaker, was quite different from Thomas Jefferson, the firebrand author of the Declaration of Independence.

We need essential modifiers (the ones not separated from the rest of the sentence with commas) instead of non-essential ones.
If we cross non-essential ones Thomas Jefferson, the muted public speaker, was quite different from Thomas Jefferson, the firebrand author of the Declaration of Independence, we'll result with the sentence without meaning.

No other errors, different from is correct idiom.

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B) Jefferson, the muted public speaker, and Thomas Jefferson, the firebrand author of the Declaration of Independence, were quite different
- incorrect for the same reason as A

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C) Jefferson, the muted public speaker, and Thomas Jefferson, the firebrand author of the Declaration of Independence, wasquite different
- incorrect for the same reason as A.
In addition, "and" makes from two T.J. a compound subject, which is plural, so "was" does not work, we need "were"

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D) Jefferson the muted public speaker was quite different from Thomas Jefferson the firebrand author of the Declaration of Independence
- correct choice

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E) Jefferson the muted public speaker and firebrand author of the Declaration of Independence was quite different
- the error from A is corrected, but Subject-Verb agreement error from C is introduced
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Thomas Jefferson, the muted public speaker, was quite different from Thomas Jefferson, the firebrand author of the Declaration of Independence.


Hi,
IMO A.

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A) Jefferson, the muted public speaker, was quite different from Thomas Jefferson, the firebrand author of the Declaration of Independence
Keep.

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B) Jefferson, the muted public speaker, and Thomas Jefferson, the firebrand author of the Declaration of Independence, were quite different
looks like an incomplete thought. Different from what?Incorrect

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C) Jefferson, the muted public speaker, and Thomas Jefferson, the firebrand author of the Declaration of Independence, was quite different
Additive, needs plural verb. SV error. Incorrect

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D) Jefferson the muted public speaker was quite different from Thomas Jefferson the firebrand author of the Declaration of Independence
Introducing an essential modifier requires a pronoun: who,whose etc. This choice just misses them. Incorrect

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E) Jefferson the muted public speaker and firebrand author of the Declaration of Independence was quite different
Introducing an essential modifier requires a pronoun: who,whose etc. This choice just misses them. Plus, SV error. Incorrect

Choose A.
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Thomas Jefferson, the muted public speaker, was quite different from Thomas Jefferson, the firebrand author of the Declaration of Independence.

A) Jefferson, the muted public speaker, was quite different from Thomas Jefferson, the firebrand author of the Declaration of Independence
B) Jefferson, the muted public speaker, and Thomas Jefferson, the firebrand author of the Declaration of Independence, were quite different
C) Jefferson, the muted public speaker, and Thomas Jefferson, the firebrand author of the Declaration of Independence, was quite different
D) Jefferson the muted public speaker was quite different from Thomas Jefferson the firebrand author of the Declaration of Independence
E) Jefferson the muted public speaker and firebrand author of the Declaration of Independence was quite different


An appositive modifier is used to describe the preceding noun;
If the modifier is without comma, it is an essential modifier, which is vital for the sentence to make sense;
If it is between commas, then it is a non-essential modifier; so removing it won't change the meaning;
Here the only way we can tell T apart is if we use an essential modifier.

A) "T was quite different from T" unintended;
B) "T…and T…were quite different" unintended;
C) "T…and T [plural]…was [sing]" sva;
E) "T the speaker…and the author…was different" unintended

Ans (D) "T the speaker was different from T the author".
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Thomas Jefferson, the muted public speaker, was quite different from Thomas Jefferson, the firebrand author of the Declaration of Independence.
I think this comes down to a showdown of meaning.I am very sure we want to say Jefferson as one character was different from jefferson as another character.That is, one man who had a different disposition based on his role. We need to communicate this. .I believe this can be seen in the adjectives used for Jefferson: when speaking publicly, he was almost stilted but he wrote passionately(a firebrand)in the declaration showing that while they may seem to be different men,they are in fact one man. when the appositive is used it carries the meaning that there are 2 different men called Thomas Jefferson and that to differentiate them we will describe them in terms of their individual roles,meaning one is a muted public speaker and the other authored the declaration of Independence At least this is what I think.


A) Jefferson, the muted public speaker, was quite different from Thomas Jefferson, the firebrand author of the Declaration of Independence
Grammatically this sentence is fine. Its meaning doesn't quite capture what we want to say,which is that the same man was a different character as a muted public speaker and as the author of the declaration. A case for essential modifiers can be made
here as well
We need the modifiers to carry through the meaning .Placing the modifiers in commas means they are not integral to the meaning of the sentence.


B) Jefferson, the muted public speaker, and Thomas Jefferson, the firebrand author of the Declaration of Independence, were quite different
This is nothing else than another way to restate A. Grammatically correct
but changing the meaning,at least I think.


C) Jefferson, the muted public speaker, and Thomas Jefferson, the firebrand author of the Declaration of Independence, was quite different
Butchers subject verb agreement by using was rather than were and misconstrues the meaning as well

D) Jefferson the muted public speaker was quite different from Thomas Jefferson the firebrand author of the Declaration of Independence
One man, 2 different hats. This one carries the author's intended meaning.Modifiers are essential here, a construction we prefer

E) Jefferson the muted public speaker and firebrand author of the Declaration of Independence was quite different Grammatically correct but does not carry through the meaning properly

Answer is D.
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Thomas Jefferson, the muted public speaker, was quite different from Thomas Jefferson, the firebrand author of the Declaration of Independence.

Meaning: Thomas Jefferson the muted public speaker was quite different from Thomas Jefferson the firebrand author of the Declaration of Independence.


The main issue is how the modifiers are structured. Some answer choices erroneously present essential noun modifiers (appositives) as non-essential modifiers, thereby creating meaning errors.

If we remove the non-essential modifiers the sentence reduces to: Thomas Jefferson was quite different from Thomas Jefferson?? This is illogical. There is a loss in meaning because modifiers which are supposed to be essential are presented as non-essential. To correct this error, we have to change the non-essential modifiers to essential modifiers.
Based on this, we can eliminate options A, B, and C.

Option E combines the essential modifiers into the muted public speaker and firebrand author of the Declaration of Independence and by so doing changes the meaning. We are comparing two shades of Thomas Jefferson. Thomas Jefferson the muted public speaker and Thomas Jefferson the firebrand author of the Declaration of Independence. Only option D is structured appropriately to reflect the intended meaning.

The answer is, therefore, option D.

A) Jefferson, the muted public speaker, was quite different from Thomas Jefferson, the firebrand author of the Declaration of Independence.

B) Jefferson, the muted public speaker, and Thomas Jefferson, the firebrand author of the Declaration of Independence, were quite different

C) Jefferson, the muted public speaker, and Thomas Jefferson, the firebrand author of the Declaration of Independence, was quite different

D) Jefferson the muted public speaker was quite different from Thomas Jefferson the firebrand author of the Declaration of Independence.

E) Jefferson the muted public speaker and firebrand author of the Declaration of Independence was quite different.
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Thomas Jefferson, the muted public speaker, was quite different from Thomas Jefferson, the firebrand author of the Declaration of Independence.


A) Jefferson, the muted public speaker, was quite different from Thomas Jefferson, the firebrand author of the Declaration of Independence

B) Jefferson, the muted public speaker, and Thomas Jefferson, the firebrand author of the Declaration of Independence, were quite different

C) Jefferson, the muted public speaker, and Thomas Jefferson, the firebrand author of the Declaration of Independence, was quite different

D) Jefferson the muted public speaker was quite different from Thomas Jefferson the firebrand author of the Declaration of Independence

E) Jefferson the muted public speaker and firebrand author of the Declaration of Independence was quite different

The comparison is between two persons, but the choices containing 'and' just describe the persons, which distorts the intended meaning'. C and E incorrectly use 'and' & 'was'. A is the correct answer IMHO.
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Thomas Jefferson, the muted public speaker, was quite different from Thomas Jefferson, the firebrand author of the Declaration of Independence.



A) Jefferson, the muted public speaker, was quite different from Thomas Jefferson, the firebrand author of the Declaration of Independence
The second runner up except for the addition of commas it's a great choice but not the best

B) Jefferson, the muted public speaker, and Thomas Jefferson, the firebrand author of the Declaration of Independence, were quite different
were isn't the right usage therefore out

C) Jefferson, the muted public speaker, and Thomas Jefferson, the firebrand author of the Declaration of Independence, was quite different
The contrast or the difference should be placed in berween and not in the end therefore out

D) Jefferson the muted public speaker was quite different from Thomas Jefferson the firebrand author of the Declaration of Independence
The meaning is better conveyed without the commas therefore let us hang on to it

E) Jefferson the muted public speaker and firebrand author of the Declaration of Independence was quite different
The intended meaning is not conveyed therefore out

Therefore IMO D
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