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Awesome post!! Great motivation !!
I have trouble completing my mock tests in time, please share your experience especially in Quant.
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Wow! 6 Attempts! That's awesome you have been able to get to V40 and 730! Congratulations!

Did you feel stretching your prep this much had an adverse impact on you? Did you have to mitigate it in some way?
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Can you tell me how many hours did you put into your preparation each day?

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Hi,

congratulations your improvement is inspiring

It's amazing that you could get over the v30 barrier and touch the V40? do you have any tips wrt time management with RC questions?

and did you error log any of your questions?? especially during your topic wise prep wrt SC?
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Can you tell me how many hours did you put into your preparation each day?

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I put 3 hours of effort. I was not efficient. But I stress enough on resources and strategy.
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Hi,

congratulations your improvement is inspiring

It's amazing that you could get over the v30 barrier and touch the V40? do you have any tips wrt time management with RC questions?

and did you error log any of your questions?? especially during your topic wise prep wrt SC?


when it comes to RC: I would take 2 minutes for a paragraph. For example, 2 paragraphs RC will take me 4 minutes to read and max 2 minutes per each question to answer.

Honestly, I did not use any error log. But while practice, when made a mistake, I would go through comments especially GMAT NINJA and see what's their take. I would note down that excpetion. For example, we use "greater than" probability and not "more than". I read somewhere in the comments, I would write in my learnings sheet and add to existing knowledge. RC and CR, I don't think we need error log. SC, you need as you want to remember the patterns and exceptions.

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Awesome post!! Great motivation !!
I have trouble completing my mock tests in time, please share your experience especially in Quant.


This happens, when you solve a question model you found only in mock. My best advise to look down into the concepts that take so much time and try to cover all models in OG in Practice GMAT Question Banks on by one in Gmatclub. When you take the test again, dont let the mind think, think with the pen. It happens always. we see a geometry problem, we do not know how to find a angle. we just think with mind how to connect the dots. but believe me,if you put pen and draw as read through question and mark x symbol and solve you will minimize the time.
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Wow! 6 Attempts! That's awesome you have been able to get to V40 and 730! Congratulations!

Did you feel stretching your prep this much had an adverse impact on you? Did you have to mitigate it in some way?


Sometimes when i shift topics in preparation i falter in the previous topics. for example, when i shift from SC to CR, I would get good score in CR and less score in SC. I then to go and again go through formula and do practice. My mitigation strategy to solve through sub-topics models. for example, In SC i would solve only parallelism and then only comparison to remember the patterns. again to set the rhythm. I never worried in QA-always I never scored less than 50. CR: after Power score , the answer shined like diamond the choices and if i forgot i would go through strategy guide once again. thats Y my Mock tests score varied from time to time.
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Man, Such an achievement. Also not to mention you started preparing when you had a bad CAT score.
Today IIMs releases answer key and I too have a bad score 39/26/45

Recently gave mock on mbadotcom and scored a horrible 600 with Q48 and V24.

Many thanks for the tips, books and stratergy.

I also want to understand what kept you motivated despite multiple attempts as most of us think that we are not capable and shouldn't waste money, time and efforts.

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Man, Such an achievement. Also not to mention you started preparing when you had a bad CAT score.
Today IIMs releases answer key and I too have a bad score 39/26/45

Recently gave mock on mbadotcom and scored a horrible 600 with Q48 and V24.

Many thanks for the tips, books and stratergy.

I also want to understand what kept you motivated despite multiple attempts as most of us think that we are not capable and shouldn't waste money, time and efforts.

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It got stuck with GMAT after eliminating GRE(I scored 311 and decided to settle in India) and CAT( I got 85% with 3 years work experience) and with age of 27. I had no option. Money was not a worry. Career was bleak. ISB was only target between marriage.
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You had me at "Money was not a worry"(just kidding)

Good luck for ISBs, maybe you can try in IIMs as well. Well anyway who am I to advice when I myself don't know what I am doing where I am going

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You had me at "Money was not a worry"(just kidding)

Good luck for ISBs, maybe you can try in IIMs as well. Well anyway who am I to advice when I myself don't know what I am doing where I am going

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No issues. If everyone thought like who am I , there would not be this club.

Your scores are same as my scores. So, if you put effort , you can also get 730+.
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gadde22, awesome journey and awesome results!! My sincerest congratulations! :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup:

I've tried four times, with max scope 660 (Q48, V32), and still believe to ace GMAT and land at 700+ score and, finally, at Berkeley.
It is so important to know that someone who also didn't give up after several attempts finally reached the goal!
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Can u please tell me your quant strategy , iam struggling with quant (i am at Q30).......... an advice of Q50 guy will hopefully be helpful to me!
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Can u please tell me your quant strategy , iam struggling with quant (i am at Q30).......... an advice of Q50 guy will hopefully be helpful to me!


My advise would be do not tackle all at once. get GMAT Club tests. Practice OG problems topic by topic. For example, I always saw a remainder problem-Learn cyclicity-practice only that for one day. practice only mensuration -area of triangle, square, rectangle, parallelogram for a week. Geometry scope is very low in GMAT- Learn mensuration, finding angle in a triangle, coordinate geometry- i saw 2 to 3 questions in coordinate geometry- spend 2 weeks. Arithmetic- take speed and time problem- you will get a question for sure- practice only time and speed for 2 days. Time and work for 2 days. Ratios and Mixtures - take a week for practice. In algebra- you will get a set theory based question for sure- read concepts and practice this for 2 days. Inequalities- these are solved with a simple modulus and changing signs with symbols concept- you can spend 2 weeks only on inequalities.

I meant to say is practice one topic at a time and all OG problems on that topic from GMAT CLUB. what happens is our eyes see for patterns. Do not surprise them at MOCKS or Official EXAMS. when you see a problem which says 50% likes A, 20 Likes B. you should immediately draw two intersecting circles. when you see X is a positive integer you should put X = 1, 2 ,3... immediately in the paper. Hope this helps. Please comment if you need any help.
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As Hector told to Achilles in his final dual with him. I dreamed of this time everyday in my preparation. Finally its happening. I finally got GMAT 730 (Q50,V40, IR8). I will verify it after I get official score.

I also started my GMAT after getting low score in CAT. I started in May 2018. I gave my official GMAT with score 650(Q51,V26). I felt so sad and also little happy for my Q51. I took 1 month preparation time and gave again with utter disappointment with score of 640(Q50,V26). I had deadline for round 2 for ISB , I gave it again in gap of 15 days with same score of GMAT3 640(Q50, V26). ISB open its round 3 for last year with Jan 15 as deadline. Though everyone was teasing me by this time, I wanted to answer with score and gave again with no improvement GMAT4 650(Q50, V28). I became example for the term GMAT plateaued.

In,2019 May I again started my preparation. I went through several posts and got to know that High scorers use Manhattan Prep SC for SC, Power-score CR for CR. I followed the same for my preparation. I followed Manhattan-prep RC Strategy guide for my preparation. I also saw videos of RON SC and GMAT NINJA.
The things I followed as normal guys during my futile attempts:
1.bought on-demand courses of high rated brands
2.Put 3 month plan
3. watch videos and solve problems in OG( you may ask what will you after watching videos ?, I will explain)
4. Book slot (if we dont book slot , we dont get motivation ?)
5. Pressure builds , not scoring as desired and taking official exam and get low score.

Things I followed after 4 failures:
1. abandoned on-demand courses(I am not against them. I initially got good knowledge)
2. Took Manhattan SC-spent 1 month(I had time )
3. Devised a strategy for RC(I had not used any strategy, but to simply read RC and attempt questions)
4. Used GMAT practice questions thoroughly (I would use for root level topics such as Parallelism etc)
5. CR- Power Score-such a great under rated book ever
6. Booked slot when scoring around high scores.

This was my strategy for Verbal (V26 to V40):

Sentence Correction:

I still remember the boxing analogy of RON for Sentence Correction, which is to practice sub-topics one at a time not all at a time. I went through Manhattan Prep SC once. Then I went through only Parallelism , saw videos of RON and GMAT Ninja( I really liked his acting, i get inspired whenever i see him, He can become an actor) on parallelism. Now i open Practice question banks in GMATCLUB and selected all OG questions and selected Parallelism. Then Practice each question. when a question appears i see the options first for 10 seconds and figure what it is going to test. I then quickly read the question and cross off all incorrect answers( not pick the correct one). This strategy helped me a lot. I learned this from GMAT NINJA from his Youtube videos. When you are dealing V40 you will not questions for Only subject verb agreement, or "Not only but also " parallelisms. Also for every question find why each option wrong and go through GMAT NINJA explanations, or other explanations as RON does in his SC Videos. the idea here is our eyes finds pattern and react accordingly in the future( I read this in some OG RC but I felt true).

I never saw SC question i could pick since i thought it was correct. I eliminated the 4 wrongs choices. Also, MahattanPrep SC is underrated book in GMAT World. off course, it is not with all exceptions and rules. But i felt it is the most comprehensive material than on-demand courses. So, Guys think V40+ , think about RON-SC, GMAT NINJA and Manhattan Prep for SC.

CR:

Initially, all choices used to "I love you" and I would say" I love you too". but after reading so many posts from high scorers I went through Power Score CR Bible book. This book is GEM. I is most underrated for CR. I read this book for 10 times. I feel interesting each time. I felt on-demand courses derived for it. But it is still most comprehensive and tells why an option is correct and other is wrong. I really loved its causal analysis and Assumption supportive and defensive types. Guys, if you did not go through this book, you were cheating you. After this book, I was scoring V42 for CR sub-section.

My strategy was to read the argument and fact set and find out conclusion. Thats it, you are almost done. see the question now. pre-phrase the answer and find in the choices. DO NOT go to answer before finding conclusion and linking premises. In each CR arguments there will be premises/fact and a conclusion with new information. you would be finding link. causal sets will have different strategy. go find the book.

RC:

Since my Indian CAT preparation days i did not find a medicine for this disease until i found Manhattan prep RC strategy. I went through couple of on-demand courses but they did not explain why we read and how we should read. Manhattan RC Strategy explains how should we read with Key words as road signs and finding main point.

My strategy was to find main point as you find in CR and linking information to it for every passage and linking all. Books tells you everything.


I used GMAT Club mocks and Expert's global mocks.
Following were my 6 attempts:

GMAT1:650 (Q51, V26)- See my Q51 - i scored this precious only at my first exam.
GMAT2:640 (Q50, V26)
GMAT3:640 (Q50,V26)
GMAT4:650 (Q50,V28)
GMAT5:690 (Q50, V31) - I scored only 2 questions wrong for Q50
GMAT6:730(Q50,V40,IR8)- I want to show off my IR8. I felt i wrote verbal just before IR good, so i solved all IR problems( normal i dont aim for 8, i would settle for 6).But if you want 8, solve during your mocks. In this I sacrificed Q51 for V40. when I start exam I will have some friction for first 10 questions. I solved them slowly and missed 2 at the end for QA. But felt happy to see V40.

Finally If I did it, everyone could do it. But needs some patience and inspiration.
My inspirational words:
Do it with passion or do not do it all.
Stronger desires produce stronger results, weaker desires produce weaker results.
Right time is when your desire is stronger than your distractions.



Hi there,
COngrats on the score. I have 15 more days to get from V35 to V 41 . What are your thoughts on it ?
Out of the 13 incorrect answers in Verbal - I got 9 wrong in SC.

Maths - I am comfortable and scored Q49 and Q47 . Verbal needs a lot of improvement. kindly advise!
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gadde22 wrote:
As Hector told to Achilles in his final dual with him. I dreamed of this time everyday in my preparation. Finally its happening. I finally got GMAT 730 (Q50,V40, IR8). I will verify it after I get official score.

I also started my GMAT after getting low score in CAT. I started in May 2018. I gave my official GMAT with score 650(Q51,V26). I felt so sad and also little happy for my Q51. I took 1 month preparation time and gave again with utter disappointment with score of 640(Q50,V26). I had deadline for round 2 for ISB , I gave it again in gap of 15 days with same score of GMAT3 640(Q50, V26). ISB open its round 3 for last year with Jan 15 as deadline. Though everyone was teasing me by this time, I wanted to answer with score and gave again with no improvement GMAT4 650(Q50, V28). I became example for the term GMAT plateaued.

In,2019 May I again started my preparation. I went through several posts and got to know that High scorers use Manhattan Prep SC for SC, Power-score CR for CR. I followed the same for my preparation. I followed Manhattan-prep RC Strategy guide for my preparation. I also saw videos of RON SC and GMAT NINJA.
The things I followed as normal guys during my futile attempts:
1.bought on-demand courses of high rated brands
2.Put 3 month plan
3. watch videos and solve problems in OG( you may ask what will you after watching videos ?, I will explain)
4. Book slot (if we dont book slot , we dont get motivation ?)
5. Pressure builds , not scoring as desired and taking official exam and get low score.

Things I followed after 4 failures:
1. abandoned on-demand courses(I am not against them. I initially got good knowledge)
2. Took Manhattan SC-spent 1 month(I had time )
3. Devised a strategy for RC(I had not used any strategy, but to simply read RC and attempt questions)
4. Used GMAT practice questions thoroughly (I would use for root level topics such as Parallelism etc)
5. CR- Power Score-such a great under rated book ever
6. Booked slot when scoring around high scores.

This was my strategy for Verbal (V26 to V40):

Sentence Correction:

I still remember the boxing analogy of RON for Sentence Correction, which is to practice sub-topics one at a time not all at a time. I went through Manhattan Prep SC once. Then I went through only Parallelism , saw videos of RON and GMAT Ninja( I really liked his acting, i get inspired whenever i see him, He can become an actor) on parallelism. Now i open Practice question banks in GMATCLUB and selected all OG questions and selected Parallelism. Then Practice each question. when a question appears i see the options first for 10 seconds and figure what it is going to test. I then quickly read the question and cross off all incorrect answers( not pick the correct one). This strategy helped me a lot. I learned this from GMAT NINJA from his Youtube videos. When you are dealing V40 you will not questions for Only subject verb agreement, or "Not only but also " parallelisms. Also for every question find why each option wrong and go through GMAT NINJA explanations, or other explanations as RON does in his SC Videos. the idea here is our eyes finds pattern and react accordingly in the future( I read this in some OG RC but I felt true).

I never saw SC question i could pick since i thought it was correct. I eliminated the 4 wrongs choices. Also, MahattanPrep SC is underrated book in GMAT World. off course, it is not with all exceptions and rules. But i felt it is the most comprehensive material than on-demand courses. So, Guys think V40+ , think about RON-SC, GMAT NINJA and Manhattan Prep for SC.

CR:

Initially, all choices used to "I love you" and I would say" I love you too". but after reading so many posts from high scorers I went through Power Score CR Bible book. This book is GEM. I is most underrated for CR. I read this book for 10 times. I feel interesting each time. I felt on-demand courses derived for it. But it is still most comprehensive and tells why an option is correct and other is wrong. I really loved its causal analysis and Assumption supportive and defensive types. Guys, if you did not go through this book, you were cheating you. After this book, I was scoring V42 for CR sub-section.

My strategy was to read the argument and fact set and find out conclusion. Thats it, you are almost done. see the question now. pre-phrase the answer and find in the choices. DO NOT go to answer before finding conclusion and linking premises. In each CR arguments there will be premises/fact and a conclusion with new information. you would be finding link. causal sets will have different strategy. go find the book.

RC:

Since my Indian CAT preparation days i did not find a medicine for this disease until i found Manhattan prep RC strategy. I went through couple of on-demand courses but they did not explain why we read and how we should read. Manhattan RC Strategy explains how should we read with Key words as road signs and finding main point.

My strategy was to find main point as you find in CR and linking information to it for every passage and linking all. Books tells you everything.


I used GMAT Club mocks and Expert's global mocks.
Following were my 6 attempts:

GMAT1:650 (Q51, V26)- See my Q51 - i scored this precious only at my first exam.
GMAT2:640 (Q50, V26)
GMAT3:640 (Q50,V26)
GMAT4:650 (Q50,V28)
GMAT5:690 (Q50, V31) - I scored only 2 questions wrong for Q50
GMAT6:730(Q50,V40,IR8)- I want to show off my IR8. I felt i wrote verbal just before IR good, so i solved all IR problems( normal i dont aim for 8, i would settle for 6).But if you want 8, solve during your mocks. In this I sacrificed Q51 for V40. when I start exam I will have some friction for first 10 questions. I solved them slowly and missed 2 at the end for QA. But felt happy to see V40.

Finally If I did it, everyone could do it. But needs some patience and inspiration.
My inspirational words:
Do it with passion or do not do it all.
Stronger desires produce stronger results, weaker desires produce weaker results.
Right time is when your desire is stronger than your distractions.



Hi there,
COngrats on the score. I have 15 more days to get from V35 to V 41 . What are your thoughts on it ?
Out of the 13 incorrect answers in Verbal - I got 9 wrong in SC.

Maths - I am comfortable and scored Q49 and Q47 . Verbal needs a lot of improvement. kindly advise!
regards
Aniriddha Wakchaure



If you have time and have not gone through , go through Manhattan prep SC guide- 200 pages. But, You must watch GMAT Ninja and RON SC videos. Practice topic wise. for example watch GMAT NINJA parallelism video, RON SC parallelism video and practice OG Parallelism in GMAT CLUB question bank. So on for other topics. This will help you recognize patterns easily which necessary for SC.
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