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Triangle PQR is right angled at Q. QT is perpendicular to PR, where T is the point on PR. If PQ = 3cm and QR = 6cm. Find QT

A. 3/5
B. 6\sqrt{5}
C. \frac{6}{\sqrt{5}}
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Triangle PQR is right angled at Q. QT is perpendicular to PR, where T is the point on PR. If PQ = 3cm and QR = 6cm. Find QT

1. 3/5
2. 6\sqrt{5}
3. 6/\sqrt{5}
4. 4
5. None


Look at the diagram:
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You can solve this question using the fact that: perpendicular to the hypotenuse will always divide the triangle into two triangles with the same properties as the original triangle, which means that all 3 triangles PQT, QRT and PRQ are similar. Now, as in similar triangles, corresponding sides are all in the same proportion then QT/QR=PQ/PR, as PR=\sqrt{3^2+6^2}=\sqrt{45}=3\sqrt{5} then \frac{QT}{6}=\frac{3}{3\sqrt{5}} --> QT=\frac{6}{\sqrt{5}}.

Or you can equate the area: area_{PQR}=\frac{1}{2}*PQ*QR=\frac{1}{2}*QT*PR --> the same here: PR=3\sqrt{5} --> QT=\frac{6}{\sqrt{5}}.

Answer: C.
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Re: Triangles [#permalink] New post 13 Dec 2010, 04:51
Find the hypotenuse by using the Pythagorean theorem.

3^2 + 6 ^2 = 3\sqrt{5}

Area of the right angled triangle = \frac{1}{2}*base*height

\frac{1}{2}*QR*PQ

Above can be equated with \frac{1}{2}*PR*QT

and QT can be found easily
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Re: Triangles [#permalink] New post 13 Dec 2010, 05:47
All great explanations.

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Re: Triangles [#permalink] New post 24 Jan 2011, 12:14
Hi Bunuel, I have a small doubt regarding similarity of triangles. Could you please explain the concept in little more detail or point me to a place where i can learn the concept.

eg lets say same diagram except now QT = 4 , PT = 3 .....we have to find TR = ?

Could you please explain this ?
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Re: Triangles [#permalink] New post 24 Jan 2011, 12:39
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Hi Bunuel, I have a small doubt regarding similarity of triangles. Could you please explain the concept in little more detail or point me to a place where i can learn the concept.

eg lets say same diagram except now QT = 4 , PT = 3 .....we have to find TR = ?

Could you please explain this ?


If QT=4 and PT=3 --> corresponding legs in QTR and in PTQ are in the same ratio: TR/QT=QT/PT --> TR=16/3.

You can use area equation approach if you are not comfortable with similarity.
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Re: Triangles [#permalink] New post 22 Feb 2011, 15:27
Bunuel ,on your comment , corresponding legs in QTR and in PTQ are in the same ratio: TR/QT=QT/PT --> TR=16/3. When I list out propertions, its coming TR=TP, Can you explain wat did I do wrong? Thanks!
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Re: Triangles [#permalink] New post 04 May 2011, 01:51
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Hi Bunuel, I have a small doubt regarding similarity of triangles. Could you please explain the concept in little more detail or point me to a place where i can learn the concept.

eg lets say same diagram except now QT = 4 , PT = 3 .....we have to find TR = ?

Could you please explain this ?


You might want to refer to this, i found it very comprehensive, like a high school chapter :)http://www.nos.org/Secmathcour/eng/ch-17.pdf
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Re: Triangles [#permalink] New post 04 May 2011, 06:59
1/2 * QT * PR = 1/2 * PQ * QR

QT = 18/root(45) = 6/root(5)

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Re: Triangles [#permalink] New post 24 May 2014, 08:58
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Triangle PQR is right angled at Q. QT is perpendicular to PR, where T is the point on PR. If PQ = 3cm and QR = 6cm. Find QT

1. 3/5
2. 6\sqrt{5}
3. 6/\sqrt{5}
4. 4
5. None


Look at the diagram:
Attachment:
untitled.PNG

You can solve this question using the fact that: perpendicular to the hypotenuse will always divide the triangle into two triangles with the same properties as the original triangle, which means that all 3 triangles PQT, QRT and PRQ are similar. Now, as in similar triangles, corresponding sides are all in the same proportion then QT/QR=PQ/PR, as PR=\sqrt{3^2+6^2}=\sqrt{45}=3\sqrt{5} then \frac{QT}{6}=\frac{3}{3\sqrt{5}} --> QT=\frac{6}{\sqrt{5}}.

Or you can equate the area: area_{PQR}=\frac{1}{2}*PQ*QR=\frac{1}{2}*QT*PR --> the same here: PR=3\sqrt{5} --> QT=\frac{6}{\sqrt{5}}.

Answer: C.


Hi Bunuel,

I'm a little confused here. let me try to explain:

If I equate the ratios:

I get: QT/6 = 5/3Root5
I'm equating the ratios as such: the height of the QTR over the height of the the main triangle which equals, the hypotenuse of QTR to the hypotenuse of the main, which i 3 Root 5.

Can you please clarify what the ratios actually are(height of one vs. base of another etc). It's a little confusing since the variables are repeated between the 3 triangles. My worry comes in because if I did this same ratio and I equated it to QTP, i would've gotten a completely different answer. I'm surely doing something wrong -- perhaps in how i'm setting up the ratios?
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Re: Triangles [#permalink] New post 24 May 2014, 09:23
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mailnavin1 wrote:
Triangle PQR is right angled at Q. QT is perpendicular to PR, where T is the point on PR. If PQ = 3cm and QR = 6cm. Find QT

1. 3/5
2. 6\sqrt{5}
3. 6/\sqrt{5}
4. 4
5. None


Look at the diagram:
Attachment:
untitled.PNG

You can solve this question using the fact that: perpendicular to the hypotenuse will always divide the triangle into two triangles with the same properties as the original triangle, which means that all 3 triangles PQT, QRT and PRQ are similar. Now, as in similar triangles, corresponding sides are all in the same proportion then QT/QR=PQ/PR, as PR=\sqrt{3^2+6^2}=\sqrt{45}=3\sqrt{5} then \frac{QT}{6}=\frac{3}{3\sqrt{5}} --> QT=\frac{6}{\sqrt{5}}.

Or you can equate the area: area_{PQR}=\frac{1}{2}*PQ*QR=\frac{1}{2}*QT*PR --> the same here: PR=3\sqrt{5} --> QT=\frac{6}{\sqrt{5}}.

Answer: C.


Hi Bunuel,

I'm a little confused here. let me try to explain:

If I equate the ratios:

I get: QT/6 = 5/3Root5
I'm equating the ratios as such: the height of the QTR over the height of the the main triangle which equals, the hypotenuse of QTR to the hypotenuse of the main, which i 3 Root 5.

Can you please clarify what the ratios actually are(height of one vs. base of another etc). It's a little confusing since the variables are repeated between the 3 triangles. My worry comes in because if I did this same ratio and I equated it to QTP, i would've gotten a completely different answer. I'm surely doing something wrong -- perhaps in how i'm setting up the ratios?


Corresponding sides are opposite the corresponding (equal) angles. Corresponding (equal) angles are marked in the diagram below:
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Re: Triangles [#permalink] New post 24 May 2014, 11:10
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russ9 wrote:

Hi Bunuel,

I'm a little confused here. let me try to explain:

If I equate the ratios:

I get: QT/6 = 5/3Root5
I'm equating the ratios as such: the height of the QTR over the height of the the main triangle which equals, the hypotenuse of QTR to the hypotenuse of the main, which i 3 Root 5.

Can you please clarify what the ratios actually are(height of one vs. base of another etc). It's a little confusing since the variables are repeated between the 3 triangles. My worry comes in because if I did this same ratio and I equated it to QTP, i would've gotten a completely different answer. I'm surely doing something wrong -- perhaps in how i'm setting up the ratios?


Corresponding sides are opposite the corresponding (equal) angles. Corresponding (equal) angles are marked in the diagram below:
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I see where I was going wrong. I was only accounting to align the hypotenuse but I would switch the other two angles. Thanks for clarifying.

One question to that extent: While aligning the ratios of the 3 triangles (2 inner and 1 outer), Side A/B of Inner #1 = Side A/B of Outer = Side A/B of Inner #2 right? What I mean by that is, I can equate any of the triangles to each other - not just inner/outer but also the two inner triangles because they ALL are similar triangles. Correct?

About to start work on the links above. Thanks again.
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Re: Triangles [#permalink] New post 24 May 2014, 13:35
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russ9 wrote:

Hi Bunuel,

I'm a little confused here. let me try to explain:

If I equate the ratios:

I get: QT/6 = 5/3Root5
I'm equating the ratios as such: the height of the QTR over the height of the the main triangle which equals, the hypotenuse of QTR to the hypotenuse of the main, which i 3 Root 5.

Can you please clarify what the ratios actually are(height of one vs. base of another etc). It's a little confusing since the variables are repeated between the 3 triangles. My worry comes in because if I did this same ratio and I equated it to QTP, i would've gotten a completely different answer. I'm surely doing something wrong -- perhaps in how i'm setting up the ratios?


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I see where I was going wrong. I was only accounting to align the hypotenuse but I would switch the other two angles. Thanks for clarifying.

One question to that extent: While aligning the ratios of the 3 triangles (2 inner and 1 outer), Side A/B of Inner #1 = Side A/B of Outer = Side A/B of Inner #2 right? What I mean by that is, I can equate any of the triangles to each other - not just inner/outer but also the two inner triangles because they ALL are similar triangles. Correct?

About to start work on the links above. Thanks again.


Yes, you can equate the ratios of corresponding sides in all three triangles.
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