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Trying to learn some of the basics of programming is the same as to tinker with a car when one is a teenager: some people end up going to engineering school, and others, twenty years later, remember nothing of the experience.
(A) the same as to tinker with a car when one is a teenager
(B) similar to a teenager tinkering with a car
(C) like tinkering with a car as a teenager
(D) the same as a teenager tinkering with a car
(E) like the teenager’s tinkering with a car
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Re: SC -TEENAGER [#permalink] New post 29 Jan 2009, 17:22
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This is a good one. Not sure I can come up with solid grammatical reasons, but here's my attempt.

Trying to learn some of the basics of programming is the same as to tinker with a car when one is a teenager: some people end up going to engineering school, and others, twenty years later, remember nothing of the experience.
(A) the same as to tinker with a car when one is a teenager
>> 'same as' is incorrect because these are not identical actions
(B) similar to a teenager tinkering with a car
>>incorrect comparison. The act of trying to learn is not similar to a teenager
(C) like tinkering with a car as a teenager
(D) the same as a teenager tinkering with a car
>> like B, incorrect comparison with teenager
(E) like the teenager’s tinkering with a car
>> 'teenager's tinkering' is awkward, but not sure it's grammatically incorrect. C is def better than E
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Re: SC -TEENAGER [#permalink] New post 29 Jan 2009, 17:29
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Trying to learn some of the basics of programming is the same as to tinker with a car when one is a teenager: some people end up going to engineering school, and others, twenty years later, remember nothing of the experience.
(A) the same as to tinker with a car when one is a teenager
(B) similar to a teenager tinkering with a car
(C) like tinkering with a car as a teenager
(D) the same as a teenager tinkering with a car
(E) like the teenager’s tinkering with a car

c for me as well.
you want parallelism. so a is not correct.
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Re: SC -TEENAGER [#permalink] New post 29 Jan 2009, 17:41
I had my answer choice narrowed down to B or C and chose B.
What;s the oa?
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Re: SC -TEENAGER [#permalink] New post 29 Jan 2009, 19:08
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I had my answer choice narrowed down to B or C and chose B.
What;s the oa?

IMO trying to learn can not be similar to a teenager hence, I chose C over B.
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Re: SC -TEENAGER [#permalink] New post 29 Jan 2009, 19:56
same reasoning as lesw

C is better than E

I was drawn to B as i saw the word similar. How ever, the comparison is incorrect in B
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Re: SC -TEENAGER [#permalink] New post 29 Jan 2009, 20:49
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Trying to learn some of the basics of programming is the same as to tinker with a car when one is a teenager: some people end up going to engineering school, and others, twenty years later, remember nothing of the experience.
(A) the same as to tinker with a car when one is a teenager
(B) similar to a teenager tinkering with a car
(C) like tinkering with a car as a teenager
(D) the same as a teenager tinkering with a car
(E) like the teenager’s tinkering with a car


I chose B.

A: Wordy and messed up idiom "same to X as to Y"
B. Good: trying to learn is similar to tinkering
C: Like is comparing action "tinkering" AND it should be "like a teenager" OR "as a teenager does"
D: "same as" - trouble construction
E: Like is comparing action "tinkering"
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Re: SC -TEENAGER [#permalink] New post 29 Jan 2009, 22:56
It shld be definitely C. we are comparing "trying to learn" with "tinkering with a car". Al other choices violate parallelism
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Trying to learn some of the basics of programming is the same as to tinker with a car when one is a teenager: some people end up going to engineering school, and others, twenty years later, remember nothing of the experience.
(A) the same as to tinker with a car when one is a teenager
(B) similar to a teenager tinkering with a car
(C) like tinkering with a car as a teenager
(D) the same as a teenager tinkering with a car
(E) like the teenager’s tinkering with a car
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Re: SC -TEENAGER [#permalink] New post 29 Jan 2009, 23:53
I will go with D for the following reasons:

A - wrong usage of "when". It should be used with time period.
B - wrong comparison using "similar to" in place of "same as".
C - "car as a teenager" changes the meaning
E - wrong use of "like" to compare action with the noun.
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Re: SC -TEENAGER [#permalink] New post 30 Jan 2009, 01:07
But doesnt D compare trying to learn (verb) with a teenager (noun)?
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I will go with D for the following reasons:

A - wrong usage of "when". It should be used with time period.
B - wrong comparison using "similar to" in place of "same as".
C - "car as a teenager" changes the meaning
E - wrong use of "like" to compare action with the noun.
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Re: SC -TEENAGER [#permalink] New post 30 Jan 2009, 04:58
huh!! Now only E is left.... :-D
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Re: SC -TEENAGER [#permalink] New post 30 Jan 2009, 07:14
botirvoy wrote:
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Trying to learn some of the basics of programming is the same as to tinker with a car when one is a teenager: some people end up going to engineering school, and others, twenty years later, remember nothing of the experience.
(A) the same as to tinker with a car when one is a teenager "trying to learn and (trying) to tinker" needs to be, and is, parallel
(B) similar to a teenager tinkering with a car
(C) like tinkering with a car as a teenager
(D) the same as a teenager tinkering with a car
(E) like the teenager’s tinkering with a car


A looks wordy isn't it?

Also here the sentence compares trying to learn with teenager tinkering with car not trying to learn with [b]tinkering with car.

So between B and C B looks OK.
Also like should be used when you wanna compare two nouns.

D - similar to is better compared to same as. Also 'the same as' is not correct for of coparison.
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Re: SC -TEENAGER [#permalink] New post 30 Jan 2009, 08:23
botirvoy is right.

OA is A.
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Re: SC -TEENAGER [#permalink] New post 30 Jan 2009, 08:47
I picked A for parallelism and comparison ... thanks ...
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Re: SC -TEENAGER [#permalink] New post 30 Jan 2009, 08:48
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Trying to learn some of the basics of programming is the same as to tinker with a car when one is a teenager: some people end up going to engineering school, and others, twenty years later, remember nothing of the experience.
(A) the same as to tinker with a car when one is a teenager "trying to learn and (trying) to tinker" needs to be, and is, parallel
(B) similar to a teenager tinkering with a car
(C) like tinkering with a car as a teenager
(D) the same as a teenager tinkering with a car
(E) like the teenager’s tinkering with a car



this explanation shows ur profound knowledge in SC.
But how to figure this out that (trying ) is missing there... At first it looked as idiom is not used properly in A, then too much wordy compared to other options... Coz B and C were relatively attractive.
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Re: SC -TEENAGER [#permalink] New post 30 Jan 2009, 08:51
Did not we just read about this same/similar/like and why we should not use same to compare unlike things.

In this case trying to learn some of basics of P is not the SAME as tinkering with car as a teenager.
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Re: SC -TEENAGER [#permalink] New post 30 Jan 2009, 10:01
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botirvoy wrote:
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Trying to learn some of the basics of programming is the same as to tinker with a car when one is a teenager: some people end up going to engineering school, and others, twenty years later, remember nothing of the experience.
(A) the same as to tinker with a car when one is a teenager "trying to learn and (trying) to tinker" needs to be, and is, parallel
(B) similar to a teenager tinkering with a car
(C) like tinkering with a car as a teenager
(D) the same as a teenager tinkering with a car
(E) like the teenager’s tinkering with a car



this explanation shows ur profound knowledge in SC.
But how to figure this out that (trying ) is missing there... At first it looked as idiom is not used properly in A, then too much wordy compared to other options... Coz B and C were relatively attractive.

was a real good one!
to learn is compared to to tinker. This one probably falls in the realm of above 700 for GMAT.
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Re: SC -TEENAGER [#permalink] New post 30 Jan 2009, 21:53
Is C wrong bcos of the usage of like?
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Re: SC -TEENAGER [#permalink] New post 30 Jan 2009, 22:11
C is wrong also because it changes the meaning.

'as a teenager' may mean that despite being an adult he/she acts as a teenager(remember the adolescent SC..?)

'as a teenager' and 'as a teenager does' are completely different

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Re: SC -TEENAGER [#permalink] New post 31 Jan 2009, 10:31
Can someone clarify why the use of "when" is not wrong in A?
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