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Re: Tuck 2013 (Dartmouth) - Calling All Applicants [#permalink] New post 08 Jul 2012, 19:51
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I've seen a few posts on this topic, so I thought I'd just provide LRW's view on visiting & applicant initiated interviews (just one gal's opinion).
So the rule of thumb is: if you want to go to Tuck, you have to visit.
I agree with this in principle, but I think there are some qualifiers here:
1. If you are international (certainly) or non-Northeast based (likely), I believe adcomm is more flexible in understanding if you're not able to visit Hanover in person, so long as you demonstrate your knowledge of Tuck's culture and your interest in the program and perform well on the skype interview.
2. Tuck wants you to visit not only to show you care, but also to make sure you really "get" the Tuck culture. It's not just another hoop to jump through. You might figure out that Hanover is just plain 'ole too small for you. Or you might figure out that you just gosh darn LOVE Tuckies (this was my experience).
3. It's a risky move, but you could decide to wait and see if Tuck invites you to interview. On the application, it asks when you have visited/will visit to interview. I left this blank and said (truthfully) that my crazy consultant travel schedule made getting to Hanover totally impossible before the deadline. A few weeks later I got an invitation to interview (and read this as a strong signal to get myself to Hanover). For me, this was sort of hedging. After the invite, I felt that Tuck was interested in me, and that it would be worth my time & miles to visit.
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Re: Tuck 2013 (Dartmouth) - Calling All Applicants [#permalink] New post 08 Jul 2012, 19:57
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Question about possible the optional essay... I have an employment gap of around 6 months. I was laid off, and used that time for a huge road trip, moved across country, and tried to launch a startup that failed. This is the experience I plan on writing about in essay 3. Since I will be addressing it there, I shouldn't use the optional essay correct? I mean, for other schools I plan on pushing this to the optional, but essay 3 here seems perfect to fully explain my setback and failure during my layoff/employment gap/failed venture and how I grew.

I think I answered my own question... Thanks! Excited to get started.


There you go! Good luck :)

Your application is reviewed as a whole, so no need to be repetitive.

I agree with dear Faro 100% regarding repetition.
However - just a thought:
Of course I am lacking some context here (might want to do some searching on EssaySnark or HBSGuru), but I have heard some folks caution against using layoff stories as "setback" stories unless you have a real compelling learning to share. Sounds like you may be focusing more on the failed startup (and glossing over the layoff) as your essay example. I might suggest writing that essay without feeling boxed into having to explain the employment gap - as you have space in the optional essay if required. If it all works together into a beautiful story that also explains any resume gaps, fabulous! But don't feel like you MUST put it all together. A simple 2-3 sentences on the employment gap in the optional essay would be sufficient too, in my opinion.
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Re: Tuck 2013 (Dartmouth) - Calling All Applicants [#permalink] New post 09 Jul 2012, 04:35
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highwyre237 wrote:
Question about possible the optional essay... I have an employment gap of around 6 months. I was laid off, and used that time for a huge road trip, moved across country, and tried to launch a startup that failed. This is the experience I plan on writing about in essay 3. Since I will be addressing it there, I shouldn't use the optional essay correct? I mean, for other schools I plan on pushing this to the optional, but essay 3 here seems perfect to fully explain my setback and failure during my layoff/employment gap/failed venture and how I grew.

I think I answered my own question... Thanks! Excited to get started.


There you go! Good luck :)

Your application is reviewed as a whole, so no need to be repetitive.

I agree with dear Faro 100% regarding repetition.
However - just a thought:
Of course I am lacking some context here (might want to do some searching on EssaySnark or HBSGuru), but I have heard some folks caution against using layoff stories as "setback" stories unless you have a real compelling learning to share. Sounds like you may be focusing more on the failed startup (and glossing over the layoff) as your essay example. I might suggest writing that essay without feeling boxed into having to explain the employment gap - as you have space in the optional essay if required. If it all works together into a beautiful story that also explains any resume gaps, fabulous! But don't feel like you MUST put it all together. A simple 2-3 sentences on the employment gap in the optional essay would be sufficient too, in my opinion.



Thank you so much for the input! I'll wait until after I write the setback essay before deciding if I should add in an additional essay. I guess I have some more brainstorming before jumping into the setback.
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Re: Tuck 2013 (Dartmouth) - Calling All Applicants [#permalink] New post 09 Jul 2012, 21:35
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I wish had your courage and fortitude (or a fellow friend re-taking the GMAT) so that I had re-taken the GMAT as well :| my GMAT score was just on the cusp of a good enough score that wouldn't warrant a re-take...

...and yet, it was only my 1st try. and my Quant percentile was low... 76%. I took it so early on too, back at the end of April! Now it's early July and I'm kicking myself for not having given it one more shot.
Maybe I should still take it? Sigh... tougher to say now, now that essay questions are being released across bschools...


Honestly, if I had your breakdown, I would not have retaken the GMAT. A 730 is above the average at *every* bschool. My original quant was just so low in comparison to what I was getting in practice exams that I *knew* if I were to immediately retake the exam, I would have done better.

I wouldn't stress over it at this point, but it's your choice to make.
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Re: Tuck 2013 (Dartmouth) - Calling All Applicants [#permalink] New post 16 Jul 2012, 23:56
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I'm in too for the EA. Just started writing essays and I'm suffering a serious case of writer's block :)
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I agree with Faro about the retake. I got a 710 with a Q44, and somehow it just didn't feel right. I felt like I was sitting on a fence, so I'm glad I re took it and ironed things out. Bottom line: If you have the time and you honestly feel that your score/breakdown was not an honest reflection of your ability, there's nothing stopping you from a retake.

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I agree with Faro about the retake. I got a 710 with a Q44, and somehow it just didn't feel right. I felt like I was sitting on a fence, so I'm glad I re took it and ironed things out. Bottom line: If you have the time and you honestly feel that your score/breakdown was not an honest reflection of your ability, there's nothing stopping you from a retake.

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Just to add to this point Tuck allows you to report up to two test scores. I only see this as advantageous to take it at least twice. You don't have to report both but a second score helps if one or both areas improve.
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I'm in too for the EA. Just started writing essays and I'm suffering a serious case of writer's block :)

I was in that exact spot last week. You'll power through! 8-)


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Count me in. I am targeting the schools in Northeast regions like Sloan, Tuck and Stern.
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Hey guys,

do you plan to combine the school visit and the interview in one single trip to Hanover? Any ideas on this?

Plus, any idea about the form of recommendation letter of the school?

Thanks!
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[/quote]

Yep, you can go both ways on it. In fact, when I asked if there is any harm in doing the interview prior to submitting, they mentioned that I could use experiences from my visit in my application.

The interviews are done by 2nd year students who don't see anything but your resume that you submit beforehand. So all you need to have ready is your resume. But even with that things can change - in the 2 months between my interview and when I submitted my app, I had additional accomplishments at work to include.

Hope this helps.[/quote]

Thanks man, it's very helpful!
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Tuckies, I would love your inputs on your experience with the FYP. Does it benefit career switchers who are not looking to work in consulting, post MBA?


I would definitely not tie it to consulting career. FYP or First Year Project is a practical application of your 1st year learnings. It's a great way to check what you have learned and how it applies to real world. Projects aren't limited to consulting - a lot of students pursue enterpreneurial projects. It is also great for career switchers - you can put a company from the industry you are interested in on your resume, e.g. you are coming from finance and are interested in a tech career - you can pick a project with Microsoft (using company name as an example) and have it on your resume. Keep in mind FYP is in spring and you are most likely done with recruiting for your internship by then so you can use it for full-time recruitment if needed.
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Re: Tuck 2013 (Dartmouth) - Calling All Applicants [#permalink] New post 30 Aug 2012, 10:39
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Hi,

I was waitlisted at Tuck last year and this time I am planning to apply to the EA round.
Tuck has been very supportive in giving feedback on my application. They also ask reapplicants to interview again.
Can anyone please share their re-applicant interview experience. Is it any different from the general interview.
Do they use the prior interview feedback to ask questions that may be more tailored on how I improved Or will it be a blind interview with just my resume in hand.

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Can anyone speak to his/her experiences about their class visit/interview? Faro - I saw that noted you went to Murphy's the night before your "official" class visit/interview - why the quotation marks?

I am getting ready to visit Hanover this coming Wednesday and I'm very excited. I've heard great things about the area, but little about the classroom feel and the interview. Thanks in advance.


I was at Tuck couple weeks ago. Overall I had a really good experience. Not only are the student hosts extremely helpful, other students in general were really open to talk. I unfortunately only could spend a night there but if I had more time, I would have reached out to perhaps grab a drink with a current student.

The classroom visit is the same with any other bschool; you sit in the back, be respectful and not participate in discussions. It was interesting to see how engaged the professors were. I came a from a big university and professors could care less about whether you understood the materials.

The interview was very casual and conversational. I connected with my interviewer since she and I both had experience in consumer products. And she also spoke French and we dabbled in that as well.

I was initially hesitant on Tuck before visiting, but I'm glad I did. It's a stark contrast from Columbia, Wharton, and HBS where I felt the student community was a lot more competitive and not open to guests.
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...and wow... I'm even more in love with this school...

Thanks for sharing highwyre237. Do you mind elaborating on the specific impressions you had during your visit?


Hanover is a beautiful small New England town filled with brilliant minds.[wrapimg=][/wrapimg]

Every student, alumn, and adcom I have interacted with has gone out of their way to be helpful. Also, the class I sat in, the professor was a nerd about his topic of study. His enthusiasm was so apparent, he was able to make a somewhat dry topic exciting and engaging.... All in all, I am in love with Tuck, and Hanover.
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Received an invitation to interview with Tuck - either on campus or through Skype. I was pleasantly surprised with the quick turnaround (submitted application on Oct 10). Anyone else here who received the invite?
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@ Prorsum: can you elaborate on these benefits?


At my job now, almost everyone went to HBS/Stanford/Wharton/CBS/Haas, so I have a good idea of what the 2-years would be like at those schools. Most urban schools with large classes have a "commuter campus" feel. Commuter as in classmates who live within city limits or region and pretty much have their network set up. CBS is known for this and I hear non-NYC locals have to play catch-up with building their network/friends, etc. I could see this happening if I go to Haas/Stanford, since i'm in SF and I probably won't move out of my rent controlled apt within the city. And I probably won't go full speed into network building events and activities. Just my 2cents on that.

From talking with Tuck alumni in SF and current students, I just felt that student community was not as competitive as in other schools i visited (HBS, CBS, Wharton). Everyone seemed to know each other and they would crack jokes with each other during classroom discussions. I feel regardless of which elite school you go to, you'll get the same caliber of academics. So with that, I felt that 2-years at Tuck would most def. help me build my network and become inspired to try new things/career prospects. Frankly, there is not much to do in Hanover so you have to be creative on keep yourself entertained. And most likely everyone will be on campus during the weekends. So when Tuck alumni say they are very close with their classmates, I believe that.

I went to undergrad in a very large school. It took me a quarter or two to navigate through the school and find clubs/orgs to join. Since bschool is only 2 years, I feel anytime spending digging a niche would be valuable time wasted. Thus I'm a bit hesitant on large bschools.

I got my job now through a chance encounter. That said, I'm hesitant on the career prospects at Tuck. I'm weary on the bulls*t some schools praise about and Tuck is not innocent on that. I think about it like this. Say I'm at CBS and I happen to meet a guy at a PE shop at a networking event. Next day, I could be in the office interviewing for a summer internship. I don't see that happening at Tuck given how far the school is from where most students will be ending up. I feel at Tuck, most recruiting events would have to be fully organized and scheduled. Not a bad thing though, but its a check mark against Tuck.

There are pros/cons at Tuck, but I think you'll have to make an extra effort to land those lucrative jobs. Something I would def consider doing if I get admitted.
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