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Re: Tuck (Dartmouth) 2013 - Calling All Waitlisted Applicants [#permalink] New post 05 Apr 2013, 10:30
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Just received my feedback as well - room for improvement regarding GMAT Score (710). While its close to their average, I can understand their recommendation here given the rest of my profile may just be average on their standards.

My question is, lets say I am having a bad morning on the day I reschedule my exam and happen to get a 690 or 700 (though I'm confident I can improve with a few weeks of practice exams) will that automatically lead to a DING? Will Tuck AdCom only see my scores if I specifically make them aware of my retake and if I actually send the scores over?


Take the exam. If you score above 710, send it to them, if not, don't send it. The only way they would find out about a lower score is if you re-apply next year.
Just one thought though: I know the application process in holistic, and you must present your strenghts in all aspects possible, but it just sounds weird to me that someone with a 710 receives such a feedback, and people with lower scores don't. As I said, they look at all aspects of your profile, but if the comment is related to your GMAT, than people with similar or lower scores should receive the same feedback. And a 710 is now not a good enough score? Are you serious? A 10 point difference to a 720 would make you a better student just because you are above their average? I'm sorry, I can't agree with something like that....
To me, this feedback is being based on the personal opinion of the one who reads your file in 20 minutes just to write your feedback. I cannot believe it is derived from the group decision the committee made about your file. To tell you the truth, I wouldn't need an official feedback to know that a 710 could be better. But it is 7 points below their average, so it's totally acceptable. They should tell you what really kept you out for the moment, the 710 just can't be it.
Sorry for the long post, but it's so unfair to be waitlisted, expect a decent feedback, and receive a couple of sentences that don't help at all!
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Re: Tuck (Dartmouth) 2013 - Calling All Waitlisted Applicants [#permalink] New post 05 Apr 2013, 10:37
CobraKai - i actually had a pretty balanced score. I believe it was 80th %ile for Quant and 90th %ile for Verbal, 92%ile overall (or something close to that, I don't recall). I do feel that I maybe left 20-30 points on the table on the exam. I did only take it once so I know I can score higher but now its actually having to do it.


Cinder4277 - good points. Tuck is definitely my top choice so I want to make every effort to get in off the waitlist and if that means studying to take the exam again, then so be it. I'm definitely not looking fwd to the new section though!
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Re: Tuck (Dartmouth) 2013 - Calling All Waitlisted Applicants [#permalink] New post 05 Apr 2013, 10:38
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Just received my feedback as well - room for improvement regarding GMAT Score (710). While its close to their average, I can understand their recommendation here given the rest of my profile may just be average on their standards.

My question is, lets say I am having a bad morning on the day I reschedule my exam and happen to get a 690 or 700 (though I'm confident I can improve with a few weeks of practice exams) will that automatically lead to a DING? Will Tuck AdCom only see my scores if I specifically make them aware of my retake and if I actually send the scores over?


I believe if you take the test and don't send them your scores, they won't know. The only negative to not sending the scores outright is you'll have to spend the money (is it 35 or 50?) if you get a better score and want to send to adcom. However, even if you don't send the score now, it will be on your record for whenever you send official scores to wherever you matriculate (whether this year or next, so they will see it eventually). I actually did worse the second time (though my split improved) and it didn't seem to matter too much. I was consistently scoring 750 going into the second test and ended up getting a 690 so bad days definitely do happen. If I were you, I might just go the careful route and not automatically send the scores just because I wouldn't feel as much pressure that way!
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Re: Tuck (Dartmouth) 2013 - Calling All Waitlisted Applicants [#permalink] New post 05 Apr 2013, 10:44
Thanks Dakells, that's the route I'm leaning towards.
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Re: Tuck (Dartmouth) 2013 - Calling All Waitlisted Applicants [#permalink] New post 05 Apr 2013, 11:03
I got my feedback and was also advised to retake the GMAT. I got a 700.
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Re: Tuck (Dartmouth) 2013 - Calling All Waitlisted Applicants [#permalink] New post 05 Apr 2013, 11:53
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Just received my feedback as well - room for improvement regarding GMAT Score (710). While its close to their average, I can understand their recommendation here given the rest of my profile may just be average on their standards.

My question is, lets say I am having a bad morning on the day I reschedule my exam and happen to get a 690 or 700 (though I'm confident I can improve with a few weeks of practice exams) will that automatically lead to a DING? Will Tuck AdCom only see my scores if I specifically make them aware of my retake and if I actually send the scores over?


Take the exam. If you score above 710, send it to them, if not, don't send it. The only way they would find out about a lower score is if you re-apply next year.
Just one thought though: I know the application process in holistic, and you must present your strenghts in all aspects possible, but it just sounds weird to me that someone with a 710 receives such a feedback, and people with lower scores don't. As I said, they look at all aspects of your profile, but if the comment is related to your GMAT, than people with similar or lower scores should receive the same feedback. And a 710 is now not a good enough score? Are you serious? A 10 point difference to a 720 would make you a better student just because you are above their average? I'm sorry, I can't agree with something like that....
To me, this feedback is being based on the personal opinion of the one who reads your file in 20 minutes just to write your feedback. I cannot believe it is derived from the group decision the committee made about your file. To tell you the truth, I wouldn't need an official feedback to know that a 710 could be better. But it is 7 points below their average, so it's totally acceptable. They should tell you what really kept you out for the moment, the 710 just can't be it.
Sorry for the long post, but it's so unfair to be waitlisted, expect a decent feedback, and receive a couple of sentences that don't help at all!


I understand what you're saying bizwiz but the way i look at this is that maybe this really is specific to me. Maybe bc I was average on so many other fronts, this higher score would put me over the top in terms of getting in off of the WL. Maybe I'm being optimistic here but for others who have a lower score, improving on it won't put them over the top. Again, I am by no means trying to say others have a lesser chance than I do to get in off WL but I'm just trying to be optimistic here that this specific feedback is what will make a difference for ME in their eyes. I know it doesn't guarantee admission but I do feel that I hold my WL fate in my own hands now if only i can improve my score.


IMO, if you think you were average on so many other fronts, a higher GMAT will hardly do the trick. That's exactly what I was saying. I don't think they let people in with an average profile and a high gmat score, you must bring a lot of things to the table, that's why this process is so competitive. Your 710 should not hold you back, it should push you forward. Bottom line is that if they said you'd benefit from a higher score, than go ahead and take the test again. And good luck with it! It just does not make sense to me, that's all.
Sorry guys, as you might have noticed, I get a little frustrated when things don't make sense. :-D
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Re: Tuck (Dartmouth) 2013 - Calling All Waitlisted Applicants [#permalink] New post 07 Apr 2013, 17:54
I received feedback to retake the GMAT so it looks like it will be back to the books. I am not sure how much I can really improve in just a month but I am going to try because I love Tuck. This is not going to be fun. Does anyone have any tips for a retake?
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Re: Tuck (Dartmouth) 2013 - Calling All Waitlisted Applicants [#permalink] New post 07 Apr 2013, 18:17
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I received feedback to retake the GMAT so it looks like it will be back to the books. I am not sure how much I can really improve in just a month but I am going to try because I love Tuck. This is not going to be fun. Does anyone have any tips for a retake?


When did you get the email? Could you share your score, or at least if it's below or above 700?
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Re: Tuck (Dartmouth) 2013 - Calling All Waitlisted Applicants [#permalink] New post 07 Apr 2013, 19:27
For those of you retaking the GMAT, what date are you targeting? Sometime in May or June?
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Re: Tuck (Dartmouth) 2013 - Calling All Waitlisted Applicants [#permalink] New post 08 Apr 2013, 04:01
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For those of you retaking the GMAT, what date are you targeting? Sometime in May or June?


Same here, not sure how much I'll improve in a month, especially after not looking at that stuff in over a year but I will give it my best shot. I'm going to target an end of May retake date.
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Re: Tuck (Dartmouth) 2013 - Calling All Waitlisted Applicants [#permalink] New post 09 Apr 2013, 11:10
any word
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Re: Tuck (Dartmouth) 2013 - Calling All Waitlisted Applicants [#permalink] New post 09 Apr 2013, 12:01
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any word


I'm not anticipating any movement until after May 24 (April Round decisions released).
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Re: Tuck (Dartmouth) 2013 - Calling All Waitlisted Applicants [#permalink] New post 09 Apr 2013, 16:02
Some folks from January round already got their feedback. I'm still on the wait...
Also, I saw on the Darden thread that our friend Kjar, who was also waitlisted at Tuck in the January round, is matriculating at Virginia. I guess that means there is one less friend suffering for Tuck. Good luck to Kjar at Charlottesville and to all of us during the next few months!
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Re: Tuck (Dartmouth) 2013 - Calling All Waitlisted Applicants [#permalink] New post 09 Apr 2013, 16:09
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Some folks from January round already got their feedback. I'm still on the wait...


Hey, if it makes you feel better (which it probably won't), I was waitlisted in the EA round and got my feedback on April 1st.
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Re: Tuck (Dartmouth) 2013 - Calling All Waitlisted Applicants [#permalink] New post 09 Apr 2013, 16:16
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Some folks from January round already got their feedback. I'm still on the wait...


Hey, if it makes you feel better (which it probably won't), I was waitlisted in the EA round and got my feedback on April 1st.


Lol, I know all about your long wait CobraKai, I've been reading your posts for quite some time now... At least no one else from your round got their feedbacks long before you, am I right? I'm just feeling a little bit forgotten... :-D
Anyway, the post was mainly to update fellow waitlisters about more people leaving Tuck's WL to join other institutions. Great for them, and a little more hope for us.
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Re: Tuck (Dartmouth) 2013 - Calling All Waitlisted Applicants [#permalink] New post 09 Apr 2013, 18:33
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Add me to the nothing specific list.


WhyIAm/kschmidt -- were you guys January Rd WL candidates?


November for me.


I was waitlisted Jan round.
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Re: Tuck (Dartmouth) 2013 - Calling All Waitlisted Applicants [#permalink] New post 10 Apr 2013, 11:15
Just got my feedback email. The standart "there is nothing specific for you to work on at this time". Also said it's unlikely to see any movement on the waitlist before June or July. Hence, there is nothing we could do but wait.
I guess nothing new for you guys, but just thought it would be helpful to bring you an update.
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Re: Tuck (Dartmouth) 2013 - Calling All Waitlisted Applicants [#permalink] New post 10 Apr 2013, 12:32
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Just got my feedback email. The standart "there is nothing specific for you to work on at this time". Also said it's unlikely to see any movement on the waitlist before June or July. Hence, there is nothing we could do but wait.
I guess nothing new for you guys, but just thought it would be helpful to bring you an update.


I was actually okay with the "there's nothing you can work on" feedback. In the end, it's a numbers game and the adcom is human, and humans are subjective. There's ~3000 applying for ~280 seats. At some point, the Adcom has to pick a direction and go with it...unfortunately for us, we were in the opposite direction :P
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Re: Tuck (Dartmouth) 2013 - Calling All Waitlisted Applicants [#permalink] New post 10 Apr 2013, 12:58
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Just got my feedback email. The standart "there is nothing specific for you to work on at this time". Also said it's unlikely to see any movement on the waitlist before June or July. Hence, there is nothing we could do but wait.
I guess nothing new for you guys, but just thought it would be helpful to bring you an update.


I was actually okay with the "there's nothing you can work on" feedback. In the end, it's a numbers game and the adcom is human, and humans are subjective. There's ~3000 applying for ~280 seats. At some point, the Adcom has to pick a direction and go with it...unfortunately for us, we were in the opposite direction :P


:-D
I agree with you, they are certainly subjective. Remember how I couldn't believe they told someone with a 710 to retake the GMAT? Well, I also have a 710, with less than stellar GPA (although justified), and they did not ask me to retake it. I don't know if I should be glad, or if I should take another shot at it just because they feel a 710 is not good enough for other applicants.
And I also agree it's a numbers game. I just can't help to wonder what could have tipped the scale in our favor, since apparently we were so close!!
Well, now I'm just dumping my frustration here... :-D

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Re: Tuck (Dartmouth) 2013 - Calling All Waitlisted Applicants [#permalink] New post 10 Apr 2013, 15:02
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I just can't help to wonder what could have tipped the scale in our favor, since apparently we so close!!


I really think this is where the essays come in. Different things will resonate with different adcoms. I spent a lot of time drafting and re-drafting my 3 Tuck essays and basically chopped 100 words off each and molded them towards Johnson.

Tuck WL'd me, Johnson accepted me AND invited me to their scholarship weekend. Different strokes for different folks seeing how there weren't many variables between the two apps.
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