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Two squares, each of side lengths 1 unit and having their centres at O, are rotated with respect to each other to generate octagon ABCDEFGH, as shown in the figure above. If AB = 43/99, find the area of the octagon.

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a. 73/99
b. 86/99
c. 1287/9801
d. 76/99
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Re: geomertry Q [#permalink] New post 14 Sep 2010, 07:35
can someone chime in? This is something I really dont know how to even start at!....

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Re: geomertry Q [#permalink] New post 14 Sep 2010, 07:52
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Two squares, each of side lengths 1 unit and having their centres at O, are rotated with respect to each other to generate octagon ABCDEFGH, as shown in the figure above. If AB = 43/99, find the area of the octagon.

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a. 73/99
b. 86/99
c. 1287/9801
d. 76/99


First note that all the triangles will have the same dimensions. Let the legs of these triangles be x and y, also we know that the hypotenuse equals to \frac{43}{99}, so x^2+y^2=(\frac{43}{99})^2.

If we take one side of a square we'll see that x+y+\frac{43}{99}=1 --> x+y=\frac{56}{99} --> square it --> x^2+2xy+y^2=(\frac{56}{99})^2, as from above x^2+y^2=(\frac{43}{99})^2, then: (\frac{43}{99})^2+2xy=(\frac{56}{99})^2 --> 2xy=(\frac{56}{99})^2-(\frac{43}{99})^2=(\frac{56}{99}-\frac{43}{99})(\frac{56}{99}+\frac{43}{99})=\frac{13}{99}*1=\frac{13}{99};

Now, the are of the octagon will be area of a square minus area of 4 triangles --> area=1-4*(\frac{1}{2}*xy)=1-2xy=1-\frac{13}{99}=\frac{86}{99}.

Answer: B.
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Re: geomertry Q [#permalink] New post 14 Sep 2010, 07:56
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EASY WAY is as shown below

Connect AO and BO to get a AOB. We get totally 8 triangles like this.

Now. Lets calculate the AREA of AOB

AREA = .5*base*hiegt = 0.5*43/99 * 1/2 note: i/2 is the hieght as the length of a side of the given square is 1 and half of that is what is the hieght

hence AREA = 1/4 * 43/99

As told we have 8 similar triangles in this octagon.

Hence ANSWER = 8*1/4 * 43/99 = 86/99

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Re: geomertry Q [#permalink] New post 14 Sep 2010, 09:34
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EASY WAY is as shown below
AREA = .5*base*hiegt = 0.5*43/99 * 1/2 note: i/2 is the hieght as the length of a side of the given square is 1 and half of that is what is the hieght

This doesnt looks like a straight line i dont think i can be 0.5

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Re: geomertry Q [#permalink] New post 14 Sep 2010, 09:40
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muralimba wrote:
EASY WAY is as shown below
AREA = .5*base*hiegt = 0.5*43/99 * 1/2 note: i/2 is the hieght as the length of a side of the given square is 1 and half of that is what is the hieght

This doesnt looks like a straight line i dont think i can be 0.5

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It is the length of the perpendicular from the center of the square to its side AB. It has to be half the length of the side, hence 1/2.
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Re: geomertry Q [#permalink] New post 14 Sep 2010, 12:48
Nice solution shrouded....It has to be perpendicular with half the length of square.
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Re: geomertry Q [#permalink] New post 14 Sep 2010, 13:34
great solutions, all.. this helps a lot.

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Re: geomertry Q [#permalink] New post 17 Jun 2011, 18:48
I dont understand why the solutions remove the area of the four triangles outside the stationary square? Should not the area of octagon add the area of those four triangles rather than subtract? Bunuel ,Shrouded?
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