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Re: UK work visa abolished for internationals [#permalink] New post 02 Nov 2011, 02:51
I suspect you will see an updated version of this document when the tier 1 post study is finally phased out with guidelines on international student recruitment on Tier 2. Also, there seem to be several loopholes to make it easy for recruiters to avoid Resident labour test. For instance :
- MILKROUND (paragraphs 277 and beyond)
- ROLLING RECRUITMENT CAMPAIGNS (next section)
- INTRA COMPANY TRANSFERS
- GRADUATE TRAINEE (albeit for short term posts like internships)

But there is no clear cut instruction on this document to recruit international UK graduates probably becuase there is no need for it at the moment as tier 1 is still available.

manohar wrote:
bsd-lover,

I appreciate your response.
I am not sure whether you are correct or I am correct.

Please find attache the latest guidelines issued to the sponsors who sponsor certificates for Tie-2 employment, issued by the UKBA, and is applicable from October 1, 2011:

http://www.ukba.homeoffice.gov.uk/sitec ... iew=Binary

Please read paragraphs 212 and 266 in this document.
From reading these two paragraphs, I get the impression that, while people switching from the student category to Tier-2 work permit category, will not be counted towards the restricted certificates (that are limited to 20,700 for the current year), They still will be subjected to resident labour market test ( Para 266). Of course this will only be applicable for students graduating after April 2012. Till then the Tier-1 category is still available.
I will be grateful if you can go through the relevant paragraphs and give your informed opinion whether there is any mistake in my reasoning/ conclusions.
Thanks in advance.

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Re: UK work visa abolished for internationals [#permalink] New post 02 Nov 2011, 02:59
Thanks bsd-lover.

I hope they will have some provision to replace the Tier-1/ HSMP route.
But I am not very hopeful. UK govt doesn't seem to be in any mood to be lenient with potential immigrants.

With regard to intra-company transfer, the candidate should have worked with the company for at least 12 months prior to the date of application.
Thanks once again.
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Re: UK work visa abolished for internationals [#permalink] New post 20 Dec 2011, 03:57
My colleagues attended an immigration seminar two weeks ago and the advice from the solicitors is the same as what I have posted before :-

Non EU students with an MBA from a UK university can be sponsored by a UK-based employer for a Tier 2 visa so long as the student accepts the job offer during the term of their student visa. The student is not counted against the employer's quota nor does the employer have to conduct a resident labour market test.

As always, you should seek professional advice and not rely solely on what I say.

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Re: UK work visa abolished for internationals [#permalink] New post 20 Dec 2011, 04:45
Mr. Chua,

Please refer to my previous post on this subject.
According to the UK Immigration website,while the MBA students who are graduating from UK universities and business schools won't be counted against the quota for Tier-2 work visas, the employers need to conduct the resident labour market test. There is no provision for employment without resident labour market test for anybody unless the job is listed under shortage occupations or the salary is above Sterling Pounds 150K per year.
The reference link is given in my above post.

Of course all this applies only for people graduating after April 2012.

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Re: UK work visa abolished for internationals [#permalink] New post 20 Dec 2011, 04:49
@manohar

That's not what the immigration solicitors or the UKBA representative who was present at the seminar said, and there were specific questions about these issues. THere is quite a lot of confusion going around so I would suggest you check with a professional before making any decision.

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Re: UK work visa abolished for internationals [#permalink] New post 30 Dec 2011, 06:49
btw, "international people" in the UK does not include European people, thus they don't compete for the visas
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Re: UK work visa abolished for internationals [#permalink] New post 23 Feb 2012, 23:59
Given below is the link to Guidelines for Tier-2 Sponsors. This is the basis on which any graduate of UK B-schools and Universities can be employed under Tier-2 from April 2012 on wards:

http://www.ukba.homeoffice.gov.uk/sitec ... iew=Binary

Just check on what Sponsors need to satisfy before they can recruit immigrants for employment.
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Re: UK work visa abolished for internationals [#permalink] New post 10 Mar 2012, 05:41
Nice sharing dude,Keep it up.
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Re: UK work visa abolished for internationals [#permalink] New post 14 Mar 2012, 23:27
Hi,

Thanks very much for this comment. It help me to think about my ideals.

Tks again and pls keep posting.
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Re: UK work visa abolished for internationals [#permalink] New post 07 Apr 2012, 12:26
based on above docs, even in milkround employer need to retain docs that show locals were not available for that role...so seems like this path is closed to non-EU grads
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Re: UK work visa abolished for internationals [#permalink] New post 17 Apr 2012, 00:27
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Hope you guys have read the latest international student work visa regualtions in UK, according to which post MBA job seeking window is completely removed.

What this means is, if you get a job offer before graduation, you will be one of the chosen 20,000 (the limit of internationals is capped at around 20,000 annually now). If not, you have to pack your bags and head home.

Whereas in the US, you have an OPT of a year for the MBA students and in Canada, you get a working visa for 2 years post graduation.

In the light of these new regulations, how many of you would rather not study in UK??


Do you get 2 years working visa post university in Canada? Do you have the source, I was pretty sure it was 1, just like in the US...Are we speaking specifically for post-grad, or undergrad?
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Re: UK work visa abolished for internationals [#permalink] New post 11 Jul 2012, 11:23
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Anasthaesium wrote:
Hope you guys have read the latest international student work visa regualtions in UK, according to which post MBA job seeking window is completely removed.

What this means is, if you get a job offer before graduation, you will be one of the chosen 20,000 (the limit of internationals is capped at around 20,000 annually now). If not, you have to pack your bags and head home.

Whereas in the US, you have an OPT of a year for the MBA students and in Canada, you get a working visa for 2 years post graduation.

In the light of these new regulations, how many of you would rather not study in UK??


Do you get 2 years working visa post university in Canada? Do you have the source, I was pretty sure it was 1, just like in the US...Are we speaking specifically for post-grad, or undergrad?


In Canada you can get a work visa for up to 3 years, but the work permit cannot exceed the length of the study program. So I would assume that a 2-year MBA program will get you a 2-year post-MBA work visa.

Google this phrase for more details:

"Studying in Canada: Work permits for students - Working after graduation"
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Re: UK work visa abolished for internationals [#permalink] New post 06 Nov 2012, 15:38
There is an article in the recent The Economist issue, the author takes a critical view on the current UK immigration policy for students.
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Re: UK work visa abolished for internationals [#permalink] New post 07 Nov 2012, 09:48
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There is an article in the recent The Economist issue, the author takes a critical view on the current UK immigration policy for students.


Do you have a link?
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Re: UK work visa abolished for internationals [#permalink] New post 09 Nov 2012, 02:10
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Jock4MBA wrote:
There is an article in the recent The Economist issue, the author takes a critical view on the current UK immigration policy for students.


Do you have a link?


FYI:

economist-s-show-europe-s-including-uk-mba-charms-waning-142132.html
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Re: UK work visa abolished for internationals [#permalink] New post 25 Jan 2013, 01:47
The new work visa regulations didn't seem to be much of a bottleneck for Cambridge MBA students from the class that graduated recently.

Around 97% of the class had job offers in hand. A big chunk (50%) managed a career change (industry or role or geography) as well. 29% managed to change all three.

Admissions director Conrad Chua shares more insights here --> Cambridge MBA admissions & placements.
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Re: UK work visa abolished for internationals [#permalink] New post 26 Apr 2015, 09:06
What is the cap on the time an overseas student can stay in the UK post graduation while in search of employment?
Even in best schools like LBS, Oxford, LSE etc, not everybody has offers in hand at the time of completion of course. In such a scenario, will that student be forced to return back to his/her own country immediately after course completion? Or, is there a certain time period, he/she can spend in the UK while on Tier 4 visa in search of a job? I am talking about a period between end of course and when an employer sponsors your work visa. Please help.
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Re: UK work visa abolished for internationals [#permalink] New post 27 Apr 2015, 15:33
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For post-grad programmes that are 12 months or longer, the visa is for 16 months, so students have 4 months after the end of studies to find a job if they wish to work in the UK post-graduation without having to leave the country. But as with all immigration issues, you should try to keep abreast of any changes to the regulation through the Home Office website.

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Re: UK work visa abolished for internationals [#permalink] New post 27 Apr 2015, 15:38
What if the program's length is between 9-12 months? Whats the timeline?
And isnt it highly risky? Do most if the people find jobs within those 2-4 months?
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Re: UK work visa abolished for internationals [#permalink] New post 29 Apr 2015, 17:13
shrey191

I'm not an immigration lawyer so I can't answer visa-related questions for other programmes. But i would say that quitting one's job and taking an MBA is a risk, regardless of the length of the programme.

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