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Re: Ultra Elite List [#permalink] New post 07 Oct 2010, 18:03
Nothing too interesting about Haas when you line it up against Tuck!

Haas: USN #7, BW #10, EC #3
Tuck: USN #7, BW #12, EC #2

Stern is pretty much sitting on top of 10th, and then you end up with another clear pack which is the Ross, Fuqua, Yale, Darden group.
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Re: Ultra Elite List [#permalink] New post 17 Oct 2010, 01:11
I still find it interesting that people are shocked to see Haas grouped up there with the top schools like Tuck and others. Haas has made quite a bit of progress in recent years and is definitely a school where all the top firms in almost all industries spend time recruiting at.
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Re: Ultra Elite List [#permalink] New post 17 Oct 2010, 07:10
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I still find it interesting that people are shocked to see Haas grouped up there with the top schools like Tuck and others. Haas has made quite a bit of progress in recent years and is definitely a school where all the top firms in almost all industries spend time recruiting at.


I put it above many of the other schools based just on it's like 2% acceptance rate. Based on the Chatters in the chat room this year, we had H/S/W/M admits with alot of K/B admits and no Haas admit.
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Re: Ultra Elite List [#permalink] New post 18 Oct 2010, 10:18
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I still find it interesting that people are shocked to see Haas grouped up there with the top schools like Tuck and others. Haas has made quite a bit of progress in recent years and is definitely a school where all the top firms in almost all industries spend time recruiting at.


I put it above many of the other schools based just on it's like 2% acceptance rate. Based on the Chatters in the chat room this year, we had H/S/W/M admits with alot of K/B admits and no Haas admit.


Personally, I think at the top level, most of the schools are pretty close in terms of quality. Some may be better at one area than another, and one should pick schools based on the location, industry, student body size, culture, curriculum, and other important factors rather than this amorphous "rank" that people are very obsessed about.

I know the day when people don't pay much attention to rankings will never come, but at least I can try to change the behavior on my beloved GMATClub forums. :)
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Re: Ultra Elite List [#permalink] New post 13 Apr 2011, 08:39
this list was posted a long time ago. do you ever re-evaluate? many rankings would disagree with this list.
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Re: Ultra Elite List [#permalink] New post 19 Jan 2012, 21:23
My top 5:
Harvard
Stanford
Wharton
Columbia
LBS
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Re: Ultra Elite List [#permalink] New post 02 Apr 2012, 20:03
I think Tuck and Haas deserve to be incl. in the ultra elite list. These schools will be undisputable top #9 schools...
Here is my ranking based on P&Q methodology updated for all published rankings as of April 2nd, 2012.

1) Harvard
2) Stanford
3) U of Chicago (Booth)
4) U Penn (Wharton)
5) Northwestern (Kellogg)
6) Columbia
7) MIT (Sloan)
8) UC Berkeley (Haas)
9) Dartmouth (Tuck)

*Booth entered into top 3 but not sure how much longer it can hold that spot
*From #4 to #9 (including Booth), all great schools and rankings change all the time. One should choose on fit and location unless they got into Harvard or Stanford or maybe Wharton.
*I personally think Tuck is better than Haas, Sloan, and CBS.

Disclaimer: I do not goto Tuck.
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Re: Ultra Elite List [#permalink] New post 09 Jun 2012, 14:17
Hi,

What it makes Northwestern ultra elit?
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Re: Ultra Elite List [#permalink] New post 23 Jul 2013, 08:54
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Hi everyone, I know these discussions about ranking schools can get pretty heated but I wanted to share how one of the MBB firms categorizes the top US MBA programs into "elite" versus "highly selective" for the purpose of resume scoring. It's interesting to see the perspective from a major recruiter.

As for my source, I just left one of the MBB firms and I was very involved in recruiting (resume scoring and on-campus interviewing)

"Elite"
Booth/U. of Chicago
Columbia U.
HBS/Harvard U.
Fuqua/Duke U.
Kellogg/Northwestern U.
Sloan/Massachusetts Institute of Technology (MIT)
Stanford U.
Wharton/U. of Pennsylvania


"Highly selective"
Anderson/U. of California, LA
Darden/U. of Virginia
Goizueta U.
Haas/U. of California, Berkeley
Johnson/Cornell U.
Kenan-Flagler/U. of North Carolina, Chapel Hill
Marshall/U. of Southern California
McCombs/U. of Texas, Austin
Olin/Washington U. in St. Louis
Ross/U. of Michigan, Ann Arbor
Stern/New York U.
Tepper/Carnegie Mellon U.
Tuck/Dartmouth College
Yale U.


**Btw, these are all in alphabetical order

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Re: Ultra Elite List [#permalink] New post 01 Apr 2014, 19:44
BeyondCasePrep wrote:
Hi everyone, I know these discussions about ranking schools can get pretty heated but I wanted to share how one of the MBB firms categorizes the top US MBA programs into "elite" versus "highly selective" for the purpose of resume scoring. It's interesting to see the perspective from a major recruiter.

As for my source, I just left one of the MBB firms and I was very involved in recruiting (resume scoring and on-campus interviewing)

"Elite"
Booth/U. of Chicago
Columbia U.
HBS/Harvard U.
Fuqua/Duke U.
Kellogg/Northwestern U.
Sloan/Massachusetts Institute of Technology (MIT)
Stanford U.
Wharton/U. of Pennsylvania


"Highly selective"
Anderson/U. of California, LA
Darden/U. of Virginia
Goizueta U.
Haas/U. of California, Berkeley
Johnson/Cornell U.
Kenan-Flagler/U. of North Carolina, Chapel Hill
Marshall/U. of Southern California
McCombs/U. of Texas, Austin
Olin/Washington U. in St. Louis
Ross/U. of Michigan, Ann Arbor
Stern/New York U.
Tepper/Carnegie Mellon U.
Tuck/Dartmouth College
Yale U.


**Btw, these are all in alphabetical order

-Jeff


May I ask which firm this is that lists Olin, Marshall, UNC, Emory and McCombs in the same cluster as Tuck and Haas?

And may I ask why Duke is in the Elite cluster whereas Tuck and Haas are not?
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Re: Ultra Elite List [#permalink] New post 01 Apr 2014, 19:45
Shouldn't Tuck and Haas also be in the ultra-elite?

Aren't these schools a cut above Cornell, UCLA, Ross etc?
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Re: Ultra Elite List [#permalink] New post 02 Apr 2014, 05:35
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bschoolaspirant9 wrote:
BeyondCasePrep wrote:
Hi everyone, I know these discussions about ranking schools can get pretty heated but I wanted to share how one of the MBB firms categorizes the top US MBA programs into "elite" versus "highly selective" for the purpose of resume scoring. It's interesting to see the perspective from a major recruiter.

As for my source, I just left one of the MBB firms and I was very involved in recruiting (resume scoring and on-campus interviewing)

"Elite"
Booth/U. of Chicago
Columbia U.
HBS/Harvard U.
Fuqua/Duke U.
Kellogg/Northwestern U.
Sloan/Massachusetts Institute of Technology (MIT)
Stanford U.
Wharton/U. of Pennsylvania


"Highly selective"
Anderson/U. of California, LA
Darden/U. of Virginia
Goizueta U.
Haas/U. of California, Berkeley
Johnson/Cornell U.
Kenan-Flagler/U. of North Carolina, Chapel Hill
Marshall/U. of Southern California
McCombs/U. of Texas, Austin
Olin/Washington U. in St. Louis
Ross/U. of Michigan, Ann Arbor
Stern/New York U.
Tepper/Carnegie Mellon U.
Tuck/Dartmouth College
Yale U.


**Btw, these are all in alphabetical order

-Jeff


May I ask which firm this is that lists Olin, Marshall, UNC, Emory and McCombs in the same cluster as Tuck and Haas?

And may I ask why Duke is in the Elite cluster whereas Tuck and Haas are not?


Don't stress about this, look at the employment reports. 20% of Tuck went to MBB, 2-3% (if that) went to MBB from Olin/Marshall/McCombs.
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Re: Ultra Elite List [#permalink] New post 03 May 2014, 01:37
Wow.
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Re: Ultra Elite List [#permalink] New post 03 Jun 2014, 09:52
Hi everyone

Though I have registered on this forum quite a while ago, this is my first post.

I sincerely thank everyone for making this forum the best available one-stop information source of GMAT.

I believe, FT "recommends" rank provides the best guide to top 20 international (including US based) schools. If we analyse the top 15 schools, there are only 3 non US based schools: London Business School, INSEAD and Indian Institute of Management, Ahmedabad.

Though nobody can question INSEAD's and LBS' place in top 15, quite a few may raise eyebrows on IIM Ahmedabad's place in top 15. However, all the Indian members on this forum will agree with IIM Ahemedabad's well deserved place in top 15 considering the difficulty in getting into and the post mba employment opportunities.

Any thoughts ???
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Re: Ultra Elite List [#permalink] New post 03 Jun 2014, 11:08
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IIM serves a VERY different market than other Top business schools, so it's futile to directly compare: It's GREAT if you're from India, recently graduated, and want to stay India. It's not very great for anyone else. It's salary is below even top 100 schools in the United States. Top banks recruit from it, but for analyst not associate positions, so it's more equal to a top UNDERGRAD school in the states. GMAT, acceptance rate, and ROI put it very highly ranked, but that doesn't tell the whole story (e.g. it's ROI is so high because people enter it from VERY low previous salaries compared to US top-10 schools).
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