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University of Washington Foster school [#permalink] New post 23 Jan 2008, 11:08
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Is this school on anyone else's lists? I'm curious what people think of it, and if anyone has heard back on their status yet (I tried searching the other threads and didn't find much).
I have interviewed and am waiting on the decision on the 25th of January.

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Re: University of Washington Foster school [#permalink] New post 07 Feb 2008, 19:45
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everyone including me seems curious bout scholarship decisions. had written to UW n just got a reply which i think is very clear. thought it wud b helpful to paste the reply here

Scholarship offers to the most meritorious candidates from both R1 and R2 will be sent by the end of the day tomorrow. There is a chance that down the road, candidates who do not receive a scholarship in this initial offering may receive merit or need-based funds, but that would be on an occasional case-by-case basis so if you do not receive a scholarship offer tomorrow, you should move forward with plans to fund your education through other sources.

we shud expect schoparship decision by 2mrw so pls post bout the decisions as soon neone gets it!!!!! fingers crossed for one ore day n best of luck 2 everyone
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Re: University of Washington Foster school [#permalink] New post 22 Feb 2008, 11:59
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plus, seattle is the bomb! at the very least you can have a good time hanging out in the rainy city... 8-)

if you manage to get a sunny day in march, you'll realize just how beautiful of a city it is!
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Re: University of Washington Foster school [#permalink] New post 25 Feb 2008, 16:02
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Why is UW ranked so low in the school review page? That should be changed immediately.
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Re: University of Washington Foster school [#permalink] New post 26 Mar 2008, 15:03
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I just got the call from UW a few minutes ago, I'm in :) I'll see if I can make it to the April admit day, but more likely it will be the may one that I will have to attend.
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Re: University of Washington Foster school [#permalink] New post 27 Mar 2008, 09:15
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Congrats Christian and fingers!!!

I got the call last week and have not recieved my packet yet. I live in Seattle. I am hoping to see it today. Adcom stated that it would be sent out early this week.
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Re: University of Washington Foster school [#permalink] New post 27 Mar 2008, 11:45
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Someone PMed me about Why I picked UW Foster over UNC. I thought it might be of general interest, so for what it is worth:


Here was my basic thought process.
1) Where would I rather live (post graduation)
2) How different will my outcome be (career-wise)
3) How different will my MBA experience be
4) What is the cost difference

Roughly in that order of importance. Maybe 1 &2 are equally important.

My wife REALLY likes seattle,and her job at Microsoft and wants to return here eventually, though she is willing to move upon completion of my degree. She will live in seattle regardless of where I attend school. This last one isn't as big of a killer as it sounds - I lived in tokyo for 3 years while she was in california.

So here are my conclusions on the different points
1) I am open to pretty much any american metro area outside of california with a population > 1million (I would also accept SF bay area). Not TOO hot on NYC however.I would also move to any major "world city" globally. My wife REALLY likes seattle. So, on point #1 - advantage UW

2) I am probably not going to get into i-banking or consulting, so the advantage that UNC would have in these areas doesn't really matter to me. In most other areas I think the positions one gets fro mthe schools are ROUGHLY comparable (though UNC might have a SLIGHT advantage). Most of the differences (to my mind) are more based on geography. Being on the west coast UW has some good links to Tech-friendly companies. I have a masters in engineering, whcih could help. UNC has more east-coasty links.
UNC average salaries are(I think) slightly higher. However, consider the cost of living (and therefore inflated wages) in NYC/DC/Boston/etc and suddenly this is not a "real" wage advantage. So, on point #2 I'll call it a toss up.

3)I visited the UNC campus. It was beautiful, as was the town and the B-school. People were incredibly friendly, I would have a GREAT time.
I visited the UW campus.It was beautiful, as was the town. The b-school facilities are in disrepair. Probably won't get any diseases from them, but just be sure to keep your vaccinations up to date. (The new buildings will come AFTER i would finish my MBA) People were incredibly friendly, I would have a GREAT time.
Both are small, tight knot b-schools on the campus of large, beautiful public universities.
If I attended UNC I would be commuting cross-country to see my wife. Blah - Victory to UW.

4) Since I have chosen to disregard pay differences for the reasons listed in #2 above.... I'll look at cost of living/tuition
-Cost of living: Seattle looks ~25% higher, but since my wife is living in seattle anyhow, I save big $$$ per month by not ALSO needing to pay for an apartment at UNC. Plus no bi-weekly cross country flights. in cost of living I would personally save over $25k over 2 years.
-Tuition: Not even close. I save ~$30k over 2 years at UW
Conclusion: UW by $55k


So, there you have it. 3 UW victories and 1 tie!

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Re: University of Washington Foster school [#permalink] New post 28 Mar 2008, 12:03
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Yep, thats the major down side to UW right now. Since I did my undergrad in Balmer I am familiar with its "charms." I really think they should have moved the school temporarily, torn down Balmer, and put the new building back in that place.

Its snowing like crazy in Seattle today. Weird.
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Re: University of Washington Foster school [#permalink] New post 31 Mar 2008, 10:33
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I agree with westsider, and I addressed the economy in my interview. I was told that in 2000 there was little to no drop off in internships and job placement.

In terms of IT - UW has just created a whole separate program for IT professionals. I am sure you can make that your focus within the full-time program. Tech is strong in Seattle because of all the technology based companies in the area.

Tech options in Seattle that I know of:
Microsoft, Hitachi, Amazon, ...
Consulting with management firms - this is a big industry, I know several of them
Healthcare industry - this is big and getting bigger
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Re: University of Washington Foster school [#permalink] New post 04 Apr 2008, 14:15
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They seemed to have a list of questions that - while probably somewhat predetermined - seemed to be tailored a bit to my application. I would say they at least know the "broad outlines". Still I would always be sure to ask how familiar they were with my application/essays/resume. First, it helped me tailor my answer to the appropriate level of detail/background info.
Second, and perhaps more importantly, it made me look very "thoughtful" ;-)
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Re: University of Washington Foster school [#permalink] New post 20 Jun 2008, 19:27
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raghav10 wrote:
Amazing inputs given by GMATT73. U covered every aspect of the life at the UW from studies to social life to networking. I guess everybody who got admitted to the UW will have a fair enough idea of what all is instored for us once we enter the premisis of the UW.

GMATT73, few questions which comes to my mind are :
1. What all preparations one has to do before entering a b-school. I mean wt all courses, if any, do u suggest, apart from reading Forbes, BizWeek, WSJ etc, which we should be equpped with ??
2. Are international students facing problems getting interships or jobs because of this recession or everythin depends on the networking skills ??
3. Wt are the chances of getting a TA in the first or second year ??

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hey raghav,

although you have posted the questions to GMATT73 I think I can be of some help with your second question about the recruitment scene for the internationals. I will post an email that Dan Poston at UW wrote back to me about my queries regarding the same. I think it is very forthright and gives a glimpse about what we as internationals can expect at UW. As for the other questions, I hope GMATT73 finds time to reply because he seems to be keeping a really busy schedule.

Dear Shashwat,
Please forgive my delay in responding, but I did not want to answer until I had time to give you a very considered response. As in my newsletter message, I will be very forthright. The post-MBA career goals you discussed in your application are a bit broader than what you describe below. Let me start by talking about consulting specifically, then address the somewhat broader goals of your application essays. From my experience, only 2-3 MBA programs can gain you serious consideration at an international consulting firm based on the school name alone. I would say those schools are Harvard and Stanford, maybe Chicago or Northwestern. That is my own opinion. Even then, and in all other cases, the school name must be supplemented by many other things in your background and your professional qualities that you personally possess. You should know that about one-third of all the applications we receive (and most top schools receive) from applicants in India, Nepal, China, Korea, and many other parts of the world, the candidates say they hope the MBA degree will lead them to a position in a top international consulting firm. In short, the competition is not just high, it is enormous. Candidates think, "If I could just earn an MBA from XXX school I'll be a viable candidate with the very best firms," but so much more is involved. The firms can be exceptionally selective on many, many dimensions. That a candidate comes from a solid MBA program will be only one of those important dimensions. The consulting firm will also look for truly exceptional language ability (speaking English exactly like a U.S. or U.K. native), exceptional analytical skills, and professionalism. The firms will look at candidate's resume for hints that past educational experience and employment experience have developed the person to this very high level. In addition to a great MBA program, firms also like to see world class undergraduate schools on the resume and work experience at internationally recognized companies like IBM, Credit Suisse, or Nestle. So when a school says, "Go to our program because we have sent people to McKinsey or Bain," that does not mean that by going to that school, you will get into those firms. It means there were people from that school, who had the right total combination of things that gave them a chance with McKinsey or Bain. Probably there were many others with the same school on a resume who did not have all the other important factors and qualities required. This is a prestige-driven industry and prestige and style in all ways, not just school name, will help and will matter in the employment game. In your application however, you expressed interest in a broader set of consulting and global corporate positions. The positions with the biggest name consulting firms are few and finite relative to the global interest. However in other areas, the demand is exploding and the opportunities are frankly astounding. In reality, of that one-third of MBA applicants who say they want a job with one of the top consulting firms most will certainly decide to pursue other careers in other types of consulting or with other types of global companies where they have a better fit. Most consultants in the world do not work for the top 3-5 firms. Most consultants work for more specialized firms focused on particular industries, functions or regions. An enormous number of new firms have emerged serving corporations in the economies your mention below - India a China. These firms are less concerned with the academic pedigree of all your schools, and more concerned about your ability to speak different regional languages and dialects and your ability to handle work in very specific functional areas or industries. Jobs with this type of firm are soaring. In most cases, having an excellent education in your home country and having an MBA from a reputable school (doesn't need to be even as well known as Univ of Washington) will carry someone a long way if that person can bring a type of knowledge and skill set that is in high demand. Given your work exp to date, you probably already know what kind of knowledge and capabililties are now in very high demand in India and China. Still more of our MBA graduates from India and China are being employed by international companies that are expanding operations in those countries or who are doing a great deal of business with growing local companies. These international firms are searching the world to find the right new employees to manage the growth opportunities. A person from these regions educated with an MBA in the U.S. is very desirable because he or she has a good grasp of the regional culture and business practices, but also an MBA graduate's understanding of the U.S. and global business practices that guide many of the company's decisions. This is why MBA employment for students from outside the U.S. continues to be so strong at all U.S. MBA programs. My career services director just told yesterday at this point among June 2008 graduates we have only domestic students still looking for a job! The international students are set. Ultimately, you must ask yourself, "Why would someone hire me as a consultant or an employee?" If you believe it will be because you have an MBA from this school or that school, you are dreaming. There are hundreds and hundreds more of such eager, brilliant, young MBAs from great schools than could possibly be employed in two years by a handful of firms. It also cannot be because you think you will study harder, learn more, work harder, be more impressive in an interview, or show more passion to the recruiter. Hundreds of other MBA graduates will offer the same qualities. I believe you create the most opportunity for yourself if you find a way to distinguish yourself beyond external qualities (school, past employer) and generic attributes (eager, hard working.) You must develop unique qualities and characteristics and then find the right employer who really wants exactly the qualities and characteristics that you possess. This sounds difficult, but many of my UW MBA students do it every year. I hope this is helpful. I know it is not what one typically hears from MBA admissions staff. Much easier to say "Whatever you want, you can find it here." Schools routinely point to particular student examples of success knowing that applicants will generalize those examples to themselves. Also, MBA candidates focus intensely on about 10-15 career paths when MBA graduates actually land jobs in hundreds of different types of work. There is much more to all of this than it seems at the beginning. I hope you have many options to consider. I wish you well as you weigh your choices, not only in selecting an MBA program, but later in your post-MBA employment. If I can help more, please ask any time. Good luck.


Raghav, this mail was sent on March 21st 2008. I don't know whether I am being ethical in sharing this mail publicly but if I can be of any help then so be it. It was very helpful for me so I am hoping it helps you. All the best with everything.
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Re: University of Washington Foster school [#permalink] New post 08 Dec 2008, 01:40
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YihWei wrote:
University of Washington Admissions Q&A


Washington (Foster) R2 Roll Call:

Mishari | Submitted | Interviewed
natuago91 | Submitted
YihWei | Submitted | Interviewed
Prashanthgraj| Submitted | Interview scheduled for 10th Dec 2008.

I am Prashanth from India. I had applied to Foster in R1. My interview was scheduled to happen on 5th December in person in Bangalore.But UW cancelled its India Trip due to the disturbances and unrest due to terror strikes. So I am getting my telephonic interview done on 10th dec.

I am extremely surprised by the earlier posts in the thread(last acad cycle) which says the school is slow/sluggish. Either I am an exception or they have improved things this year. UW was the last school I applied to and the first to invite me for an interview. I got the result within just 2 weeks of applying.
Anyways.. I got a lot of sample questions from this thread and other internet forums. I am attaching the doc for anyone visiting this forum scouring for sample UW questions.Once I am done with my interview I ll post the experience. All the very best folks!!
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Re: University of Washington Foster school [#permalink] New post 23 Jan 2008, 12:54
I also applied to UW and had my interview back in December. My online status still says "This Application has been submitted" (it hasn't changed since I first submitted), so no word yet. I have no idea if they call or if they only release decisions via the online form on Friday.

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Re: University of Washington Foster school [#permalink] New post 23 Jan 2008, 12:55
I did my undergrad at UWBS (before it became Foster). The undergrad professors were hit or miss. Some were fantastic, some were pretty crappy. The building itself is in drastic need of replacement. It is a good thing they got the money to build the new business school.

UW should really do better than it does, and I think one thing that has limited it is a lack of funding. Hopefully with Balmer getting replaced things will improve. It is hard to attract top quality talent with the poor facility they have now. The pacific northwest is probably the only area of the country without a top 25 business school, and with the strength of the economy up here, that is pretty surprising.
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Re: University of Washington Foster school [#permalink] New post 23 Jan 2008, 13:20
I completely agree. At this point, I'd be hard pressed to select UW over the other admits I've received. It's a really small school that has some great connections with local businesses (Microsoft and Amazon being the two obvious ones), but it isn't keeping up with the curve as far as pushing itself toward the top 15-20 schools. It's definitely the best available in the NW, but I'd like to see it gain a bit more momentum so it can start to compete with schools in other parts of the country.
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Re: University of Washington Foster school [#permalink] New post 24 Jan 2008, 14:57
Definitely some very interesting comments. I suppose in a way with the closest "top tier" MBA program in America being Berkeley 2000 miles south they really dont have much motivation to strive for the top.
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Re: University of Washington Foster school [#permalink] New post 24 Jan 2008, 15:01
I applied, had my interview in Boston on Saturday, it went pretty well.

We'll see the decision tomorrow. Even if I get in I'm not sure I will go because unfortunately I'm not sure I can afford it.
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Re: University of Washington Foster school [#permalink] New post 24 Jan 2008, 15:04
GMATT73 is attending UW and should be able to help you.
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Re: University of Washington Foster school [#permalink] New post 24 Jan 2008, 17:11
I just got a call from the AdCom a few minutes ago, and was accepted!

The program has a great reputation in the area, even if it doesn't hold up to the prestige of the top ten nationally or internationally. All in all, I applied because it's local to me (and I love Seattle), it has some great connections in the area, and it definitely has a good reputation as a solid school. I wouldn't be unhappy to go there, but with offers from Duke and CMU, it's difficult to choose the smaller, local school over the name brands.

However, with the recent name change and the upcoming building, I suspect that Foster is making a push to improve their marketing and increase their rankings/perception. I'd expect to see them improve over the coming years, though they still have a ways to go.

jjanders, good luck with your app! If you need any pointers on Seattle, let me know--I may be able to point you toward some cheaper neighborhoods and such if cost of living is a concern.
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Re: University of Washington Foster school [#permalink] New post 24 Jan 2008, 17:11
Got a phone call - I am in =)
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