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Re: Unlike the short flights of the shuttle and earlier [#permalink] New post 05 May 2013, 01:45
Excuse my obvious question. I want to make sure I understand which statements.

In the correct answer choice sentence, "Unlike the flights of the shuttle and earlier aircraft, which were capable of carrying..."

"Which" refers to "flights of the shuttle and earlier aircraft," or "shuttle and earlier aircraft," or "earlier aircraft?"

Basically, if a question asks, "Unlike x and y, which blah blah blah," can I understand that which refers to "x and y" rather than just "y?"
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Re: Unlike the short flights of the shuttle and earlier [#permalink] New post 05 May 2013, 03:28
In response to your question:

D says ‘which were capable of’, using the past tense. This is a factual error. The shuttle and spacecrafts were not only capable in the past, but also today and may be ever. We must use a present tense to focus on this generalization of this aspect, rather than a past tense. Please note that the main clause itself is in the future perfect tense; so, use of past tense is not justified.

I'd argue that using the past tense is correct here. The emphasis is on "earlier spacecraft," so not "spacecraft," so it's proper to refer to earlier spacecraft's capabilities in the past.
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Re: Unlike the short flights of the shuttle and earlier [#permalink] New post 05 May 2013, 03:44
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Acceptable of course, if only the shuttles are not there any more; this doubt arises because, a permanently placed space body is being compared with an on and off counterpart. This is questionable. Somehow, I feel the comparison is vulnerable. But if it is acceptable to GMAT, then why bother? We will happily take D as the choice; learning in the process, a few basic grammar lessons.
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Re: Unlike the short flights of the shuttle and earlier [#permalink] New post 23 Jun 2014, 11:24
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Isn’t this odd? Apart from that A, C and E are out because of a devilish comparison, and B is out due to a blatant redundancy error, we have still not reached the right choice. The only remaining choice D has errors that I would reckon are more serious that the redundancy of B. How?

D says ‘which were capable of’, using the past tense. This is a factual error. The shuttle and earlier spacecraft were not only capable in the past, but also today and may be ever. We must use a present tense to focus on this generalization of this aspect, rather than a past tense. Please note that the main clause itself is in the future perfect tense; so, use of past tense is not justified.

Secondly, it would be better to say actively that the shuttles and spacecrafts could carry sufficient power rather passively as ‘capable of carrying’.
Which error should we pardon: redundancy or wrong tense?



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Re: Unlike the short flights of the shuttle and earlier [#permalink] New post 24 Jun 2014, 13:47
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Isn’t this odd? Apart from that A, C and E are out because of a devilish comparison, and B is out due to a blatant redundancy error, we have still not reached the right choice. The only remaining choice D has errors that I would reckon are more serious that the redundancy of B. How?

D says ‘which were capable of’, using the past tense. This is a factual error. The shuttle and earlier spacecraft were not only capable in the past, but also today and may be ever. We must use a present tense to focus on this generalization of this aspect, rather than a past tense. Please note that the main clause itself is in the future perfect tense; so, use of past tense is not justified.

Secondly, it would be better to say actively that the shuttles and spacecrafts could carry sufficient power rather passively as ‘capable of carrying’.
Which error should we pardon: redundancy or wrong tense?



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Can anyone clarify the quoted doubt?


Sure...first of all be careful with how you evaluate tense. There are many times when you have to maintain a certain tense by force (due to parallelism and perfect tenses), but tense shifts in themselves are not incorrect. They are only incorrect if they lead to improper/illogical meaning. There is nothing illogical in this sentence that creates a comparison between the historical capabilities of shuttles/space craft and the future needs of the space station.

As for the active vs. passive construction, the GMAT shows no preference for active construction. Passive construction is grammatically correct and should not be used for eliminations.

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Re: Unlike the short flights of the shuttle and earlier [#permalink] New post 07 Jul 2014, 12:49
can someone explain with & ,with as a modifier?
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Re: Unlike the short flights of the shuttle and earlier [#permalink] New post 18 Jul 2014, 09:38
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amenon55 wrote:
can someone explain with & ,with as a modifier?


Hmmm...not sure I understand your request. Can you post again with a little more detail around what you need clarification about?

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