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We are talking about the protein drugs but the AC (A) deals with only one example of the protein drug i.e insulin. I don't know how far is it possible to consider the same as the correct AC.Usually we don't see examples quoted in CR arguments to be the prime answer.
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The passage mentions protein drugs such as insulin. Hnece, insulin is just one example of the useful protein drugs and not the only drug, reckoned by the passage
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(C) Removing permanently from the digestive system any substances that digest proteins

As far as argument is concerned , we have a issue with 'they are digested' and 'cannot reach their target cells'.

I know this option doesn't cater for 'cannot reach their target cells'. However, OG explanation states that:

C.The digestive system needs the substances that digest protein in order to function normally, so this procedure would do more harm than good.

I am unaware where in the argument it has been mentioned that 'needs the substances that digest protein in order to function normally'.

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Hi TGC.

I think the issue is actually with terminology.

I'm not sure the 'conclusion' is that proteins have to be injected. Yes that is true, but it's not the conclusion so much.

The passage is not really an argument, more a statement about current practices.

Then the question asks you what would you need to do to Protein drugs to make them effective if taken orally.

Answer A does that.

Hope that helps

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Can someone please provide an elaborate explanation with the break up of all answer choices?
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Can someone please provide an elaborate explanation with the break up of all answer choices?



Useful protein drugs, such as insulin, must still be administered by the cumbersome procedure of injection under the skin. If proteins are taken orally, they are digested and cannot reach their target cells. Certain nonprotein drugs, however, contain chemical bonds that are not broken down by the digestive system. They can, thus, be taken orally.

The statements above most strongly support a claim that a research procedure that successfully accomplishes which of the following would be beneficial to users of protein drugs?

(A) Coating insulin with compounds that are broken down by target cells, but whose chemical bonds are resistant to digestion

if the medicine is not digested by the system and reaches to target , it will benefit patients takinf protein drugs orally , hence correct

(B) Converting into protein compounds, by procedures that work in the laboratory, the nonprotein drugs that resist digestion

If nonprotein drugs will be converted to protein compounds , it will not reach to target cells as per the argument .

(C) Removing permanently from the digestive system any substances that digest proteins

This is an logical assumption , which argument doesn't support. We have to stick to the facts provided in the argument .
How those facts can be used to benefit the process of taking protein orally.

(D) Determining, in a systematic way, what enzymes and bacteria are present in the normal digestive system and whether they tend to be broken down within the body
Again same as C , irrelevant

(E) Determining the amount of time each nonprotein drug takes to reach its target cells.

Again same as C , irrelevant
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Useful protein drugs, such as insulin, must still be administered by the cumbersome procedure of injection under the skin. If proteins are taken orally, they are digested and cannot reach their target cells. Certain nonprotein drugs, however, contain chemical bonds that are not broken down by the digestive system. They can, thus, be taken orally.

The statements above most strongly support a claim that a research procedure that successfully accomplishes which of the following would be beneficial to users of protein drugs?

(A) Coating insulin with compounds that are broken down by target cells, but whose chemical bonds are resistant to digestion -Correct. If the target cells can break down the proteins easily then it will work for the patients.
(B) Converting into protein compounds, by procedures that work in the laboratory, the nonprotein drugs that resist digestion -A is better than B
(C) Removing permanently from the digestive system any substances that digest proteins -We need not touch digestive system
(D) Determining, in a systematic way, what enzymes and bacteria are present in the normal digestive system and whether they tend to be broken down within the body -Even if we come to know what enzymes are broken down by digestive system, it won't be of any help.
(E) Determining the amount of time each nonprotein drug takes to reach its target cells. -Out of scope
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Useful protein drugs, such as insulin, must still be administered by the cumbersome procedure of injection under the skin. If proteins are taken orally, they are digested and cannot reach their target cells. Certain nonprotein drugs, however, contain chemical bonds that are not broken down by the digestive system. They can, thus, be taken orally.

The statements above most strongly support a claim that a research procedure that successfully accomplishes which of the following would be beneficial to users of protein drugs?


(A) Coating insulin with compounds that are broken down by target cells, but whose chemical bonds are resistant to digestion

(B) Converting into protein compounds, by procedures that work in the laboratory, the nonprotein drugs that resist digestion

(C) Removing permanently from the digestive system any substances that digest proteins

(D) Determining, in a systematic way, what enzymes and bacteria are present in the normal digestive system and whether they tend to be broken down within the body

(E) Determining the amount of time each nonprotein drug takes to reach its target
cells
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A. Correct inference
B. Talks only about non-protein drugs instead of INSULIN (Useful protein drug)
C, D, and E are Out of scope.
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The statements above most strongly support a claim that a research procedure that successfully accomplishes which of the following would be beneficial to users of protein drugs?

(A) Coating insulin with compounds that are broken down by target cells, but whose chemical bonds are resistant to digestion - From the passage, we know that at present, protein drugs are taken using the undesirable under the skin injection. So, if there is a way for protein drugs to be administered orally without the protein drug losing its chemical properties, then it could help circumvent the need to administer such drugs using the undesirable under the skin injections. Hence, if (A) is true, users of protein drugs would undoubtedly benefit from such a research. Therefore, (A) is the right answer.

(B) Converting into protein compounds, by procedures that work in the laboratory, the nonprotein drugs that resist digestion
- converting non-protein compounds to protein compounds does not present any advantage to the protein drug users.

(C) Removing permanently from the digestive system any substances that digest proteins
- No way. This is way too extreme. Even if you were to perform what (C) suggests, it does not provide any benefit to protein drug users.

(D) Determining, in a systematic way, what enzymes and bacteria are present in the normal digestive system and whether they tend to be broken down within the body
- does not help protein drug users in any way.

(E) Determining the amount of time each nonprotein drug takes to reach its target cells.
- irrelevant.
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Useful protein drugs, such as insulin, must still be administered by the cumbersome procedure of injection under the skin. If proteins are taken orally, they are digested and cannot reach their target cells. Certain nonprotein drugs, however, contain chemical bonds that are not broken down by the digestive system. They can, thus, be taken orally.

The statements above most strongly support a claim that a research procedure that successfully accomplishes which of the following would be beneficial to users of protein drugs?


(A) Coating insulin with compounds that are broken down by target cells, but whose chemical bonds are resistant to digestion

(B) Converting into protein compounds, by procedures that work in the laboratory, the nonprotein drugs that resist digestion

(C) Removing permanently from the digestive system any substances that digest proteins

(D) Determining, in a systematic way, what enzymes and bacteria are present in the normal digestive system and whether they tend to be broken down within the body

(E) Determining the amount of time each nonprotein drug takes to reach its target cells.


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OH yeaaah ! Let's make it easy: Should find something that's beneficial to protein drug usage

A)Yeah may be if we use this method we can takeoraly too. Lets keep it

B)In lab ? what about in stomach ??

C)Wooo... Permananently remove is going too much. Why remove permanantly when you have a temporary solution like in A. A is better than this

D)Determining bacteria n all won't be so useful..!

E) Time is totally irrelevant.


Therefore answer is A
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(C) Removing permanently from the digestive system any substances that digest proteins

Well, now the protein drugs CAN pass through the digestive system and still reach their target cells, and this is a benefit for protein drug users. But now their digestive systems cannot process proteins! The normal, healthy functioning of the digestive system would have to be compromised in order to achieve that benefit. Choice (A), on the other hand, represents a clear benefit with no apparent negative consequences. (A) is a much better answer, so eliminate (C).


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I understand it can have some other consequences but those consequences are not part of the argument. As far as we are removing the element which is causing digestion, we should be good?? On the other side
A
focuses on correct approach but targets only insulin - not all protein drugs. Can't we say with such understanding that
C is stronger candidate than A
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GMATNinja wrote:

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(C) Removing permanently from the digestive system any substances that digest proteins

Well, now the protein drugs CAN pass through the digestive system and still reach their target cells, and this is a benefit for protein drug users. But now their digestive systems cannot process proteins! The normal, healthy functioning of the digestive system would have to be compromised in order to achieve that benefit. Choice (A), on the other hand, represents a clear benefit with no apparent negative consequences. (A) is a much better answer, so eliminate (C).


GMATNinja VeritasKarishma
I understand it can have some other consequences but those consequences are not part of the argument. As far as we are removing the element which is causing digestion, we should be good?? On the other side
A
focuses on correct approach but targets only insulin - not all protein drugs. Can't we say with such understanding that
C is stronger candidate than A


The question says - if a research lab claims 'this', it would be beneficial to users of protein drugs. What is 'this'?

(A) Coating insulin with compounds that are broken down by target cells, but whose chemical bonds are resistant to digestion

Great! They coated insulin with compounds that make talking insulin orally viable. Perhaps other protein drugs can be coated with same compounds too.
Beneficial to protein drug users.

(C) Removing permanently from the digestive system any substances that digest proteins

The intent of this option is clear with the usage of 'permanently'. It takes away something that is present in a normal digestive system permanently. That itself is a red flag.
The lab claims that they will take away the ability to digest protein permanently. Is it beneficial to protein drug users? No. It brings convenience in one respect but users will take proteins in diet but will not be able to digest. That's a problem.

Answer (A)
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Useful protein drugs, such as insulin, must still be administered by the cumbersome procedure of injection under the skin. If proteins are taken orally, they are digested and cannot reach their target cells. Certain nonprotein drugs, however, contain chemical bonds that are not broken down by the digestive system. They can, thus, be taken orally.

The statements above most strongly support a claim that a research procedure that successfully accomplishes which of the following would be beneficial to users of protein drugs?


(A) Coating insulin with compounds that are broken down by target cells, but whose chemical bonds are resistant to digestion
Correct. The comparison in the passage suggests that insulin cannot be ingested orally b/c its a protein, whereas nonprotein drugs can be taken orally (b/c they contain chemical bonds that are not broken down by the digestive tract. So it follows that protecting insulin via those compounds would allow for it to be ingested orally

(B) Converting into protein compounds, by procedures that work in the laboratory, the nonprotein drugs that resist digestion
This seems like a fruitless exercise...the nonprotein drugs are fine as they are...why alter them?

(C) Removing permanently from the digestive system any substances that digest proteins
Dangerous. Don't do this in real life.

(D) Determining, in a systematic way, what enzymes and bacteria are present in the normal digestive system and whether they tend to be broken down within the body
Enzymes and bacteria are irrelevant.

(E) Determining the amount of time each nonprotein drug takes to reach its target cells.
How would this benefit users of protein drugs? It won't.
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Useful protein drugs, such as insulin, must still be administered by the cumbersome procedure of injection under the skin. If proteins are taken orally, they are digested and cannot reach their target cells. Certain nonprotein drugs, however, contain chemical bonds that are not broken down by the digestive system. They can, thus, be taken orally.


Main points -
1. Protein drugs cant be taken orally , as they are digested and cant reach target cells -- so need to find a way to solve this issue.
2. Nonprotein drugs do not broke down by digestive system ,thus can be taken orally.

Question is to method which can resolve the (1) issue.

Choices :
(A) Coating insulin with compounds that are broken down by target cells, but whose chemical bonds are resistant to digestion : -- this is correct as that is the only issue we have with protein cells as per (1)

(B) Converting into protein compounds, by procedures that work in the laboratory, the nonprotein drugs that resist digestion -- converting nonprotein drugs to protein is out of context of the paragraph, so not correct.

(C) Removing permanently from the digestive system any substances that digest proteins: Not possible , so not correct also people need to digest protein based foods.

(D) Determining, in a systematic way, what enzymes and bacteria are present in the normal digestive system and whether they tend to be broken down within the body: paragraph is not talking about enzymes and bacteria, so not correct.

(E) Determining the amount of time each nonprotein drug takes to reach its target cells.: This wont help as the main issue is protein getting digestive , so not correct.
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