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Using LSAT CR Questions for GMAT [#permalink]  09 Apr 2012, 12:08
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I am planning to use LSAT Logical Reasoning a.k.a Critical Reasoning problems to supplement my GMAT practice.
Have a query though ?

The LSAT CR features many question type that are not found on the GMAT : parallel reasoning, two speakers, flaw in the reasoning, formal logic. Would it be counter productive and confusing to practice these LSAT questions ? Should I cherry pick the Strengthen, Weaken, Assumption question from LSAT and focus on them instead.
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Re: Using LSAT CR Questions for GMAT [#permalink]  10 Apr 2012, 15:43
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LSAT prep is an excellent way to prepare you for both the Critical Reasoning and the Reading Comprehension section. That said you are wise to skip over those questions that are not found on the GMAT, e.g., formal logic, parallel reasoning.

Interestingly, two speaker questions, while very rare, could show up on the GMAT. So your strategy is best: go ahead and cherry pick the GMAT question types. And don't forget to use LSAT RC as well--those passages should make the ones you encounter test day that much easier.
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Re: Using LSAT CR Questions for GMAT [#permalink]  11 Apr 2012, 02:40
In my opinion, if you need to take LSAT test, of course.... If not, I think that other materials are enough for a great score (OG,MGMAT...) because LSAT is more difficult than GMAT. However, if you have enough time to prepare, LSAT will be a good aid.
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Re: Using LSAT CR Questions for GMAT [#permalink]  11 Apr 2012, 06:08
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I am planning to use LSAT Logical Reasoning a.k.a Critical Reasoning problems to supplement my GMAT practice.
Have a query though ?

The LSAT CR features many question type that are not found on the GMAT : parallel reasoning, two speakers, flaw in the reasoning, formal logic. Would it be counter productive and confusing to practice these LSAT questions ? Should I cherry pick the Strengthen, Weaken, Assumption question from LSAT and focus on them instead.

If you're already amazing at verbal, there's no harm in sharpening your skills with LSAT questions. If you're still building your reasoning skills, however, maybe you should exhaust all the MGMAT + OG questions first?

I used the Powerscore LSAT LR Bible to prep for CR because I couldn't find the CR Bible. It's pretty thorough and amazing. Then I finally got my hands on the CR Bible. The Powerscore editors just replaced the word "LSAT" with "GMAT", took out the sections you mentioned, and spewed out the CR Bible. If you got both books, you'd be a silly billy.

Again, don't waste time on LSAT material unless or until you've exhausted all your other sources.
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Re: Using LSAT CR Questions for GMAT [#permalink]  11 Apr 2012, 12:32
I have completed OG 12 CR problems twice, with around 90% accuracy. One of my friend who recently gave GMAT said that only the last 30 CR problems are reflective of the actual GMAT. I am good at quant and believe that can nail down CR. Hence looking for another resource. I was considering buying Veritas Prep CR books. However some private tutors suggest only official sources :GMAC/LSAC. This is reason for my confusion.
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Re: Using LSAT CR Questions for GMAT [#permalink]  11 Apr 2012, 15:56
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I have completed OG 12 CR problems twice, with around 90% accuracy. One of my friend who recently gave GMAT said that only the last 30 CR problems are reflective of the actual GMAT. I am good at quant and believe that can nail down CR. Hence looking for another resource. I was considering buying Veritas Prep CR books. However some private tutors suggest only official sources :GMAC/LSAC. This is reason for my confusion.

All of the problems in the OGs are reflective of the actual GMAT because they're legit, retired GMAT questions. I understand that they're ordered by difficulty but they're also the best practice you'll get if you want "official" questions. Did you do all of them? Have you gotten the OG Verbal Review and done those questions as well? If so, have you looked at MGMAT at all? Their questions/CATs are very faithful to the GMAT format.

At the end of the day, there's really no harm in prepping for the GMAT using sources meant for another exam. Just remind yourself you would be essentially studying for 1/3 of the LSAT and 1/7 of the GMAT.
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Re: Using LSAT CR Questions for GMAT [#permalink]  11 Apr 2012, 22:21
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Also see this thread by Bmillan: lsat-books-for-gmat-verbal-prep-97191.html
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Re: Using LSAT CR Questions for GMAT [#permalink]  12 Apr 2012, 08:50
I finished all the unique question in OG 10 thru 13 and Verbal 2nd edition. I revised OG 12 once and will revise OG 13 soon. I was looking for some materials that I can depend on, i.e. that are close to the official material. The reason for choosing LSAT material is best summarized by Jeff Sackmann:

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Kaplan materials do a great job of training you to answer Kaplan questions, but for many students, that doesn't translate to the exam itself!

I started working on the LSAT questions, both RC and CR, without discriminating any question type. However, recently I came across a book by Triciela that contains the question grouped by type. I am planning to work on the questions from this book.

My overall impression is that these are very good questions. I find the RC questions not so complicated though. IMO, since LSAT has less time than GMAT to finish an RC, most of the questions are not very complicated.
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Re: Using LSAT CR Questions for GMAT [#permalink]  21 Apr 2012, 21:15
i am also planning to buy this LSAT CR book "grouped by type" from traciela .

What is the difference between Necessary assumption and Sufficient assumption?
GMAT will test on which one of the above ?
i am guessing on Necessary Assumption.
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Re: Using LSAT CR Questions for GMAT [#permalink]  08 May 2012, 20:17
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The LSAT CR features many question type that are not found on the GMAT : parallel reasoning, two speakers, flaw in the reasoning, formal logic. Would it be counter productive and confusing to practice these LSAT questions ? Should I cherry pick the Strengthen, Weaken, Assumption question from LSAT and focus on them instead.

AbhiJ, you may look at this thread where David Newland from Veritas discusses about the LSAT CR and how you should plan on working on those , very useful

http://www.beatthegmat.com/using-the-ls ... 66548.html
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Re: Using LSAT CR Questions for GMAT [#permalink]  10 Apr 2014, 20:41
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Hi Guys,

Since I got this doc from GC, I am practicing from it.

However, I have a doubt that does this doc has GMAT prep questions or not?

I want to clarify this because I don't want to see the questions in this doc in my mocks(GMATPreps).

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