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# Veritas Prep CAT Exam Opinions Needed

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Veritas Prep CAT Exam Opinions Needed [#permalink]  04 Jan 2013, 19:57
Hey everyone,

I took a Veritas Prep free exam this evening. I scored a 47 on the quantitative section, and a 37 on the verbal section. They scored it as a 660 overall. I looked at several websites with score calculators and charts, and nearly all of them would've scored a 47-Q/37-V as a 690. Does anyone know why my score is 30 points lower than what other sources indicate?

Also, does anyone have any knowledge or personal experience with the accuracy of Veritas' CAT exams? How similar to the real GMAT are they? How do they compare to the CAT exams provided by ManhattanGMAT and Kaplan? Any feedback regarding this would be much appreciated!
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Re: Veritas Prep CAT Exam Opinions Needed [#permalink]  27 Jan 2013, 10:37
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Hey guys,
Just a thought.
Why do you care so much about actual GMAT score correlation with practice CATs? The CATs are not meant yo give you an extremely realistic score. Those are meant to simulate the GMAT experience, fix you timing issues, adopt a strategy for you to implement and internalize.
To get an accurate indicator, there is GMATPrep or well, the GMAT.
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Re: Veritas Prep CAT Exam Opinions Needed [#permalink]  27 Jan 2013, 10:44
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Hey guys,
Just a thought.
Why do you care so much about actual GMAT score correlation with practice CATs? The CATs are not meant yo give you an extremely realistic score. Those are meant to simulate the GMAT experience, fix you timing issues, adopt a strategy for you to implement and internalize.
To get an accurate indicator, there is GMATPrep or well, the GMAT.

Well said! We're constantly working to improve the accuracy of our CATs (our GMAT Question Bank is part of how we do this), but we think that one of the best things that practice tests do is help students get in "game shape" and build up the stamina they need on test day.

Trends do matter... If you take five practice tests from the same provider and find that your score is not improving, that's not a good sign. But focusing on whether you got a 730 or a 700 on a practice test can lead you astray!
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Save $100 on Veritas Prep GMAT Courses And Admissions Consulting For a limited time, receive access to five Veritas Prep Computer Adaptive practice tests when you purchase a Veritas Prep GMAT book! Buy Now! Enroll now. Pay later. Take advantage of Veritas Prep's flexible payment plan options. Veritas Prep Reviews SVP Joined: 16 Nov 2010 Posts: 1680 Location: United States (IN) Concentration: Strategy, Technology Followers: 31 Kudos [?]: 350 [1] , given: 36 Re: Veritas Prep CAT Exam Opinions Needed [#permalink] 04 Jan 2013, 21:56 1 This post received KUDOS These things vary based on the difficulty level of the questions. Also, there are two key things you ought to remember: 1) Getting a practice score of 660 vs 690 in another is immaterial, you should analyze how many mistakes you made and why. 2) Veritas tests are good, I can say that because I've also taken them and they're reasonably close to the GMAT's level. _________________ Formula of Life -> Achievement/Potential = k * Happiness (where k is a constant) GMAT Club Premium Membership - big benefits and savings Veritas Prep Representative Joined: 22 Apr 2004 Posts: 1110 Location: Southern California Schools: Kellogg MBA 2004 Followers: 42 Kudos [?]: 209 [0], given: 51 Re: Veritas Prep CAT Exam Opinions Needed [#permalink] 06 Jan 2013, 09:14 Expert's post JPPAA, thanks for asking about our tests! I agree with the other poster here: You will just go crazy sweating over a 30-point difference here. Your score (on a practice test and on the real thing) can depend on any number of factors, including the exact questions you saw, which ones you got right or wrong, whether or not you ran out of time, etc. The conversion tables that you will find around the Internet are handy guides, but they're just that… guides. Don't consider them to be 100% accurate every time. Even the score tables on MBA.com change from time to time. Good luck! _________________ Scott Veritas Prep | GMAT Prep | MBA Admissions Consulting | Co-author, Your MBA Game Plan Save$100 on Veritas Prep GMAT Courses And Admissions Consulting
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Re: Veritas Prep CAT Exam Opinions Needed [#permalink]  26 Jan 2013, 01:54
Hi scott,

What variation do you usually see with your students when it comes to test scores. I know MGMAT claims a 50 point Deviation (+- 50) between their test scores and the real test (on average). Does Veritas Prep keep track of whether the CAT under scores or over scores when compared to GMAT or GMAT PREP ?
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Re: Veritas Prep CAT Exam Opinions Needed [#permalink]  27 Jan 2013, 10:35
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Hi scott,

What variation do you usually see with your students when it comes to test scores. I know MGMAT claims a 50 point Deviation (+- 50) between their test scores and the real test (on average). Does Veritas Prep keep track of whether the CAT under scores or over scores when compared to GMAT or GMAT PREP ?

Hi Vomhorizon,

Our practice tests produce scores that are also normally within 50 points of what students earn on the real GMAT. As we always tell students, the best way to use any practice test is to track trends... If you're steadily improving from one test to the next, then you're heading in the right direction. If you find you're able to complete the tests without running out of time, then that's a good sign. But we do indeed find our tests to be accurate within 50 points of the real exam.

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Re: Veritas Prep CAT Exam Opinions Needed [#permalink]  27 Jan 2013, 10:46
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souvik101990 wrote:
Hey guys,
Just a thought.
Why do you care so much about actual GMAT score correlation with practice CATs? The CATs are not meant yo give you an extremely realistic score. Those are meant to simulate the GMAT experience, fix you timing issues, adopt a strategy for you to implement and internalize.
To get an accurate indicator, there is GMATPrep or well, the GMAT.

Well said! We're constantly working to improve the accuracy of our CATs (our GMAT Question Bank is part of how we do this), but we think that one of the best things that practice tests do is help students get in "game shape" and build up the stamina they need on test day.

Trends do matter... If you take five practice tests from the same provider and find that your score is not improving, that's not a good sign. But focusing on whether you got a 730 or a 700 on a practice test can lead you astray!

Completely agreed.
Trends matter
But then I expect people to prepare and study between consecutive tests. So you should improve.
A CAT is a diagnosis. You cannot hope to improve just by taking tons of tests. And I think too much tests will pretty much make you too fatigued for the GMAT.
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Re: Veritas Prep CAT Exam Opinions Needed [#permalink]  27 Jan 2013, 20:00
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Hey guys,
Just a thought.
Why do you care so much about actual GMAT score correlation with practice CATs? The CATs are not meant yo give you an extremely realistic score. Those are meant to simulate the GMAT experience, fix you timing issues, adopt a strategy for you to implement and internalize.
To get an accurate indicator, there is GMATPrep or well, the GMAT.

Hi
I know, but i wanted to also know what the VP folks know as a deviation is on their test. I know MGMAT claims a +-50 variation..It helps to put things in proper practice. I agree with the fact that CAT's are meant to chart progress and should be valued for the analysis they provide.
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