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Violence in the stands at soccer matches has gotten so pronounced in several European countries that some stadiums have adopted new rules that aim to identify fans of visiting teams and that seat them in a separate area.
(A) to identify fans of visiting teams and that seat them
(B) to identify fans of visiting teams and seat them
(C) to identify fans of visiting teams for seating
(D) at identifying fans of visiting teams so as to seat them
(E) at identifying fans of visiting teams and that seat them

I know that this SC was discussed earlier. Is "Aim to" a correct idiom?
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22 Mar 2005, 19:02
you don't use aim at normally you say target at or aim to
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22 Mar 2005, 19:46
aim to should be used here. It's stating a goal that the countries at trying to achieve.
For instance, I aim to get enrolled with Insead this summer.

aim at should only be used when you're attempting hit a target.
For instance, to aim at the target, use the cross-hair.

So A,B,C to consider.

(A) is out - 'and that seat them' is awkward sounding

(B) - 'and' seat them suggests having the fan sit in another section is part of the jobs the rules were set out to do

(C) - for seating is incorrect

B it is
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22 Mar 2005, 21:16
thanks praveen_rao7 and ywilfred for those precisions on AIM TO and AIM AT, I coudn't answer properly to this question too

Good question vprabhala
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ywilfred wrote:
aim to should be used here. It's stating a goal that the countries at trying to achieve.
For instance, I aim to get enrolled with Insead this summer.

aim at should only be used when you're attempting hit a target.
For instance, to aim at the target, use the cross-hair.

So A,B,C to consider.

(A) is out - 'and that seat them' is awkward sounding

(B) - 'and' seat them suggests having the fan sit in another section is part of the jobs the rules were set out to do

(C) - for seating is incorrect

B it is

Hi, I'm not sure what you said. Here is an OG SC question.

212. The Baldrick Manufacturing Company has for
several years followed a policy aimed at decreasing operating costs and improving the efficiency of its distribution system.

(A) aimed at decreasing operating costs and improving
(B) aimed at the decreasing of operating costs and to improve
(C) aiming at the decreasing of operating costs and improving
(D) the aim of which is the decreasing of operating costs and improving
(E) with the aim to decrease operating costs and to improve

The OA is A.
I think aim at and aim to are both right.

Besides, could you tell me what's wrong with choice D in the original question?
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23 Mar 2005, 01:14
D was also my first pick, but it was totally by instinct and there was no knowledge at all about the differences between AIM AT and AIM TO...
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23 Mar 2005, 01:14
D was also my first pick, but it was totally by instinct and there was no knowledge at all about the differences between AIM AT and AIM TO...

Good post chunjuwu, even if now it's even less clear than before
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23 Mar 2005, 07:26
in option B what is "seat them" parallal to "aim to" or "identify fans" -----not clear.
how do one justify B then.

well i remember from spideys post that "so as to" is always wrong in GMAT, tough i have seen its usage at various resources, but not as a correct GMAT sentence correction option.

all other choices are not parallal.

only B fits the bill --- but with confusion.
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23 Mar 2005, 19:56
chunjuwu wrote:
ywilfred wrote:
aim to should be used here. It's stating a goal that the countries at trying to achieve.
For instance, I aim to get enrolled with Insead this summer.

aim at should only be used when you're attempting hit a target.
For instance, to aim at the target, use the cross-hair.

So A,B,C to consider.

(A) is out - 'and that seat them' is awkward sounding

(B) - 'and' seat them suggests having the fan sit in another section is part of the jobs the rules were set out to do

(C) - for seating is incorrect

B it is

Hi, I'm not sure what you said. Here is an OG SC question.

212. The Baldrick Manufacturing Company has for
several years followed a policy aimed at decreasing operating costs and improving the efficiency of its distribution system.

(A) aimed at decreasing operating costs and improving
(B) aimed at the decreasing of operating costs and to improve
(C) aiming at the decreasing of operating costs and improving
(D) the aim of which is the decreasing of operating costs and improving
(E) with the aim to decrease operating costs and to improve

The OA is A.
I think aim at and aim to are both right.

Besides, could you tell me what's wrong with choice D in the original question?

I think aim at is more often used with a present participle, while aim to is more often used with the base verb.

For instance,

I aim to get into the top 50 of the world tennis ranking this year.
I am aiming at a spot in the top 50 of the world tennis ranking this year.

The Baldrick Manufacturing Company has for
several years followed a policy aimed at decreasing operating costs and improving the efficiency of its distribution system.

(A) aimed at decreasing operating costs and improving
(B) aimed at the decreasing of operating costs and to improve
(C) aiming at the decreasing of operating costs and improving
(D) the aim of which is the decreasing of operating costs and improving
(E) with the aim to decrease operating costs and to improve

aimed at is correct, as compared to 'aim of' and 'aim to'
'aim of' would be correct if it's used this way: "The aim of the policy is to ...."
and 'aim to' would be correct if its "The policy aims to decrease..."

(B) and (C) has a redundant use of 'the', so (A) is the correct answer choice.

Now, about why D is wrong in the original question.
at identifying fans of visiting teams so as to seat them
identifying and seat is not parallel, apart from 'aim at and aim to' comparison.
Also, the new rules does two things: identify fans and seat them apart, so you'll need the additive 'and'
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27 Mar 2005, 21:22
chunjuwu is right that both aim to and aim at are correct idoms. When you see two answers that you don't know which is right and which is wrong, you need to look at other elements of the sentences. In this question for example, "so as to" is a phrase that is almost always wrong per ETS.
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27 Mar 2005, 22:07
HongHu wrote:
chunjuwu is right that both aim to and aim at are correct idoms. When you see two answers that you don't know which is right and which is wrong, you need to look at other elements of the sentences. In this question for example, "so as to" is a phrase that is almost always wrong per ETS.

'aim to' and 'aim at' are idiomatically correct, however the correctness depends on its usage. Some sentences will need 'aim at', some will need 'aim to'.

For instance,
You would say "Aim at the target with the crosshair", but you don't say "Aim to the target with the crosshair".
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28 Mar 2005, 10:23
Ok how about this: Both "aim at something (noun or gerund)" and "aim to do something (verb)" are correct?
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29 Mar 2005, 00:20
agreeable to both examples you gave
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29 Mar 2005, 14:19
chunjuwu wrote:
ywilfred wrote:
aim to should be used here. It's stating a goal that the countries at trying to achieve.
For instance, I aim to get enrolled with Insead this summer.

aim at should only be used when you're attempting hit a target.
For instance, to aim at the target, use the cross-hair.

So A,B,C to consider.

(A) is out - 'and that seat them' is awkward sounding

(B) - 'and' seat them suggests having the fan sit in another section is part of the jobs the rules were set out to do

(C) - for seating is incorrect

B it is

Hi, I'm not sure what you said. Here is an OG SC question.

212. The Baldrick Manufacturing Company has for
several years followed a policy aimed at decreasing operating costs and improving the efficiency of its distribution system.

(A) aimed at decreasing operating costs and improving
(B) aimed at the decreasing of operating costs and to improve
(C) aiming at the decreasing of operating costs and improving
(D) the aim of which is the decreasing of operating costs and improving
(E) with the aim to decrease operating costs and to improve

The OA is A.
I think aim at and aim to are both right.

Besides, could you tell me what's wrong with choice D in the original question?

Chungwu,

Good question and good citing from OG. I agree that B and D are close. Personally, I would like to avoid so as to whenever possible. I know that OG does allow the usage "so as to" but only rarely.
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03 Aug 2013, 01:38

What if we delete 'so as'? "some stadiums have adopted new rules that aim at identifying fans of visiting teams to seat them"

The sentence still work well, right?

So I think another problem with choice D is redundancy.
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03 Aug 2013, 02:55
nson wrote:

What if we delete 'so as'? "some stadiums have adopted new rules that aim at identifying fans of visiting teams to seat them"

The sentence still work well, right?

So I think another problem with choice D is redundancy.

Yes, infact redundancy is the only problem with D, otherwise both B and D are grammatically correct IMO
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29 Nov 2013, 17:24
B is correct. But I think the selection here is governed by meaning and parallelism. Both actions "identify and seat”are referring to “aim to”. They are the actions which stadiums are aiming to achieve so both have to be parallel. None of other options are parallel with these 2 verbs. I think E might have been correct, if “that seat” would have been replaced with “seating” to make it parallel with “identifying”. “so as” has not been found correct in GMAT, though “so X as” is an acceptable idiom.
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