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Re: Warmup before second Attempt From a 590 to ??? [#permalink] New post 26 Aug 2009, 23:06
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For RC, there are not a whole lot of resources available. Here is a quick overview from an old-timer:

1. Manhattan GMAT RC (the only dedicated book) - in contrast to other MGMAT Guides, it does not rely solely on OG 12, but has its own questions/passages. It does include a recommended practice list from OG.
2. PowerScore Verbal Bible - contains a section on RC
3. Kaplan Premiere - contains a section on RC (I used this approach)
4. LSAT RC - this is really HARD and is used very rarely, but I thought I'd give you a full picture
5. GMAT Fiction

There were a couple of other less known sources, which I have omitted.
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Re: Warmup before second Attempt From a 590 to ??? [#permalink] New post 28 Aug 2009, 06:47
Snipertrader and BB,

Thankyou for providing some inputs of the RC preparation. One thing that I noticed is that when you read the passage understanding it clearly, it is easy to do the questions with confident(ofcourse there are possibilites that I am picking the wrong choice but still picking up the ans coice with confidence) . I tried skimming thru the passage, and when I start working on the questions, I still have to spend time reading the passage and this is consuming hell lot of a time. So I decided I will go for concept of "Active reading of the passage" rather than "skimming thru the passage".

Yesterday, I didn't do any preparation......Not good. At this stage, I cannot afford to wast my days not preparing for the exam. Last couple of days were bit if tiring days both at work and at home, that showed the impact yesterday. I will have make sure I don't get into this situation until I fight my GMAT.

This weekend is going to way too busy....Need to complete atlesat 4 chapters in MGMAT - SC and then take up one MGMAT Cat 1/6 exams. Let me see how things go.......
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Re: Warmup before second Attempt From a 590 to ??? [#permalink] New post 28 Aug 2009, 06:52
For RC, you definitely need to pysche yourself up before reading a passage. During the actual GMAT I got two incredibly boring passages in a row about womens' rights. So, before the first passage I thought to myself, "Sweet! Women's rights... would be a good topic to learn about in case I ever date a feminist :lol: ." Before the second passage I said to myself, "Sweet! Another women's rights passage... I'm already familiar with women's rights and let's see what this one has to say."

No matter what the passage is you should always be excited to read it. I think reading the Economist and briefly summarizing articles is helpful. Another RC tip is to just really concentrate during the questions section. I found that I often understood the passage but still got the questions wrong. By focusing in on the questions and really reading word-for-word when I was directed to a particular point of a passage in a question I really increased my hit rate on questions. RC just comes with practice and it can definitely be improved.
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Re: Warmup before second Attempt From a 590 to ??? [#permalink] New post 28 Aug 2009, 07:31
Bipolarbear,

Thank you for the suggestions. What you said is exactly what is happening in my case. I am able to understand what the passage is saying, but still I am attempting the questions incorrectly. Hope I will improve better in RC. Especially I need to improve my skill in reading and grasping. (Which I am sure can be improved with practice).
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Re: Warmup before second Attempt From a 590 to ??? [#permalink] New post 28 Aug 2009, 20:42
So today, I have gone thru Chapters 4 and 5 of Kaplan Verbal Workbook(To get some basic tips on how to tackle RC). Did the execercises at the end of the chapters and the result is close to 60%.

I am realised that the ONLY way one can improve in RC is by improving active reading skills.......and praticing a lot of RC passesges. Hum.......Can I achieve that in the next 3 months or so. Sounds tought to me.

Looks to me that the biggest weakness amoung the RC questions is to identify the Author's tone of the passage. What if I don't the meaning of the words that they mentioned in the ans choice? In such cases how I can make my call? Hu......Do I need to learn some vocablary also? :roll:

I even started participating in the RC forum. Hey Nitya34, if you are still posting one RC per day, you can see my responses as well....... :)

Tonight I will brush up my maths formula and go thru MGMAT SC - Pronoun and modifiers chapters before I take up my first MGMAT CAT 1 exam. Hope to see my quant above 45 and verbal with unit's digit having 3. ie Verbal >= 30. :wink:
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Re: Warmup before second Attempt From a 590 to ??? [#permalink] New post 28 Aug 2009, 20:56
Hi mrsmarthi..
I am yet another fan of the Economist..:)
If you have some budget spare INR 1200 for 3 months..they have a subscription offer going on at their website...I was also lazy when it came to reading..and reading for me is not about novels and stories..that sounds boring to me because there is no value addition to my skills...hence I decided to subscribe and I can see the differnence right away...read as many articles as possible even if they dont interest you..dont be very specific about vocab, just get the context and summarize..thats enough for RCs :) Also, being in touch with world news will help you for your interviews too!
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Re: Warmup before second Attempt From a 590 to ??? [#permalink] New post 28 Aug 2009, 21:59
Hi Economist,

Yeah I keep hearing that one of the best ways to improve "Actice reading skill for RC" is to read "The economist". I am planning to have a glance of these journals in my library.....If I borrow them from the library the fine else I may subscribe for the 3 month period. I have gone thru the Economist subscription page but I wanted to wait until I see whether I can get it from local library.

Thank you for the suggestion. :)
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Re: Warmup before second Attempt From a 590 to ??? [#permalink] New post 28 Aug 2009, 22:56
One can read the articles online as well. Its not the quantity but quality that matters

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Re: Warmup before second Attempt From a 590 to ??? [#permalink] New post 29 Aug 2009, 20:16
OK today I have taken my first MGMAT Cat Exam 1. The score is still not that good. But with the last one week's preparation, the score is probably what I deserve.

Total = 44 Quant & 32 Verbal.

Problem Solving - 14 correct & 8 wrong. (64%) :no
Data Sufficiency 5 Correct & 10 wrong (33%) :no

Sentence Correction 12 correct & 3 wrong (80%) :banana
Critical Reasoning 07 correct & 7 wrong (50%) :|
Reading Comprehension 4 Correct & 8 wrong(33%) :wall

Clearly I am happy that my SC is improving(infact I am brushing up ONLY SC topics from the last one week. So I expected an increase in my SC which I can see - I am off by atleast 10% from my final score.)

CR - remained the same at 50 % neither increasing or decreasing. But that is ok. I am yet to start on understanding the rules for various CR questions. Until then I might be ok to accept this score.

RC - whole of yesterday, I was practicing ONLY RC thinking that atleast I will go thru the concepts of RC before attempting this Mock exam. But I see there is a drop in my score - nearly 17% while I was expecting the other way round. Need to do a self review on this and understand why I made the mistakes. (I was assuming that I under stood the passage and was picking the ans choice very confidently. But obviously it was not the case)

PS and DS are real horrible. I was very confident and happy with my attempt in Quant until I saw that score. I was not expecting that low score in quant(mainly with those many number of mistakes). I always think that quant is the strongest area be it PS or DS. So I definitely will have to brush my skills on Quant to keep my pace going. I hope I will pick my skills in quant as time goes by. For now I am not too worries about my quant score.

I will update this message further, once I do my self review of all the questions. Let me see how many of them are careless and how many are concept errors.

By the way if any body is reading this message, can you say how close is MGMAT Verbal to actual GMAT Verbal. I feel MGMAT verbal is much easier that Actual GMAT Verbal. (Because I was able to attpempt the SC with not much difficulty and also RC were pretty easy(even though my RC score way too less). I just don't want to feel overconfident with my preparation considering the MGMAT scores.

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Self review - Observations -

PS - 6/8 mistakes are careless calculations.
DS - 6/10 mistakes are careless calculations.

Rest of them are the ones that I could not get the solution. Need to understand how the problem can be solved in 2 min tme frame.

SC - 2/3 mistakes are careless.

I definitely can't afford to have ANY careless mistakes. :hammer. Infact for me there were around 10 min time by the time I completed quant. So I think I rather double check my ans if I am well with in my timelimit.

I am yet to do my CR and RC self review......
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Re: Warmup before second Attempt From a 590 to ??? [#permalink] New post 30 Aug 2009, 08:37
So far I completed Pronouns and Modifiers from MGMAT SC. Feeling better now. But I am still lagging behind my original plan of completing Verbs and Comparisions chapters. But that is ok. I really do not want to rush thru these chapters because they are my biggest weaknesses. I definitely need to get the hold of the concepts.

Yesterday I received my OG 10 officical guide that I ordered thru Amazon. Probably I will first go thru OG 12 for SC questions once I am done with MGMAT chapters. Then will hop on to OG 10 and OG 11.

Probably for today I will attempt some 40 questions from OG 12 and go thru each of the solutions. I am planning to religiously practice as many SC questions as possible for the next 10 days since this is one area where we can easily improve to atlesat 90% accuracy and also gain some time that can be utilized for CR / RC. In fact I can notice this change happening from the last couple of days.

I am waiting for my turn to update the JallenMorris thread :)

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Re: Warmup before second Attempt From a 590 to ??? [#permalink] New post 30 Aug 2009, 09:03
@I also have started Economist-the print edition( of Asia pacific)- audio file comes free online.and its simply awesome.
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Re: Warmup before second Attempt From a 590 to ??? [#permalink] New post 30 Aug 2009, 10:25
Looking pretty good. Tackling SCs first is probably the best way to go and it's definitely the hardest part of Verbal for most people. Looks like you're getting them under control
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Re: Warmup before second Attempt From a 590 to ??? [#permalink] New post 30 Aug 2009, 20:45
Ok.....so far, for the week end, I made a considerable progress.......Completed OG 12 SC Q from 1 to 80 questions (40 each per attempt) and got around 17 of them wrong. Most of the questions that are wrong are from Verbs and Comparisions. There might be some careless mistakes also. But I would not want to go thru the official explanation until I make one more attempt of the incorrect questions. I am planning to do this once I am done with the Verbs and Comparisions chapters of SC.

Even after this, if I make the mistake, then I will go thru the explanation to find out where the hint is provided to pick up the correct ans. So far my SC is going good. Timing is not an issue. Most of the questions have an avg of 1 min or so(which is good). But the accuracy % is around little over 80%. I am targetting for accuracy % to be more than 90%. MGMAT SC is really helping me a lot in SC questions. No other book can replace this book to know the concepts - not even OGs.

Self review is sometimes real boring. But that is where you learn your mistakes. Hum....need to spend some more time on going thru the wrong ans and find out why I made them wrong.
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Re: Warmup before second Attempt From a 590 to ??? [#permalink] New post 31 Aug 2009, 19:34
Wow....today I started reading Powerscore CR bible. As I am reading thru the chapters, I am reallying enjoying them. I hope I will have the same level of joy in attempting the CR questions.

One thing that I did notice for this round of preparation - the way I read the material.

During my first attempt preparation, I was reading all the needed books just as matter of self satisfaction - "Yeah I am done with OG, OG review, SC, Prower scrore CR.....Now I know I can get 700"

But I am not realizing that I am NOT grasping the points that I read to my heart. If this is not happening there is no point in reading Sc Bible of GMAT OG bible - your GMAT level will still remain where it is currently. (This is exactly what I have done)

Now for the second attempt, I am not concentrating on too many materials. I realised that quanlity is more imporatant and quantity(Quality and Qantity - sounds very rhymic, but from the preparation point of view they really make a huge difference) . Realizing this, I started off reading MGMAT SC. Wow....I learnt so many points and now my SC accuracy % is in 80. I don't think I was ever in 80% accuracy, what ever be the questions that I attempted.

Planning to take my second MGMAT exam this coming weekend. But before that I am planning to complete MGMAT pending chapters - Comparisons and Verbs, and try to complete CR Imp chapters - Must be true, Assumptions, Strengthen, Weaken and Resolve the Paradox.

My target for the second CAT is to have atleast 85% accuracy in SC and 60 - 70% or more in CR. Still not fully concetrating on RC.Overall, I am targetting for atleast 35 in Verbal. Hope to see atleast 47 in Quant. Even otherwise, I am bothered for Quant. Let me see how this is going to work.
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Can any one suggest me what is the difficulty level for the examples in Powerscore CR Bible to actual GMAT questions. The explanations given in CR Bible are so simple but the examples they give are bit hard to my standard. I am able to bring down the choices to 2 options but that is not sifficient.

I hope CR Bible examples are much tougher than original GMAT CR questions. :)
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Re: Warmup before second Attempt From a 590 to ??? [#permalink] New post 01 Sep 2009, 12:27
mrsmarthi ,
you write really good ... I can see you acing your essays :-D

goodluck and keep sharing your experiences/thoughts/insights ..

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Re: Warmup before second Attempt From a 590 to ??? [#permalink] New post 01 Sep 2009, 12:43
ugimba,

Thank you for the pleasant words. infact logging my preparation is really helping me a lot. When ever I go thru this thread, I find where I am lagging and how I am progressing. Also I do get valuable suggestions or inpirations from fellow members. So I would like to continue updating this thread until I fight my GMAT exam(Hopefully with in 3 months from now) Atleast this way, I will keep up with my spirit of taking revenge on GMAT. :)
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Re: Warmup before second Attempt From a 590 to ??? [#permalink] New post 01 Sep 2009, 13:12
All the very best for your preparation.
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I am planning to take the test in Nov. We'll see how it goes.
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Re: Warmup before second Attempt From a 590 to ??? [#permalink] New post 01 Sep 2009, 18:13
This is my view.
CR questions in the powerscore bible are lengthier and at times more complex than GMAT. Other views welcome.

mrsmarthi wrote:
Can any one suggest me what is the difficulty level for the examples in Powerscore CR Bible to actual GMAT questions. The explanations given in CR Bible are so simple but the examples they give are bit hard to my standard. I am able to bring down the choices to 2 options but that is not sifficient.

I hope CR Bible examples are much tougher than original GMAT CR questions. :)

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Re: Warmup before second Attempt From a 590 to ??? [#permalink] New post 01 Sep 2009, 19:40
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This is my view.
CR questions in the powerscore bible are lengthier and at times more complex than GMAT. Other views welcome.


I really hope this is true.

Anyhow coming back to my preparation, I made a good progress on PowerScore CR Bible. Completed 2 fundamental topics, Must Be True(MBT), Main Point(MP) and Weaken(W) chapters. Still need to do Strength and Assumptions and Resolve the Paradox chapters from CR and Verbs & Comparisions chapters from MGMAT Sc before I take my MGMAT Cat this coming week end.

If I see a considerable improvement in my verbal(i.e if I hit a raw score of 40 in verbal) then I might prepone my exam to some time next month(Oct) itself. The more I prolong, the more I am going to build pressure. Definitely not beyond November. (See how my greediness is increasing. 10 days back I was hoping to see a raw score of atleast 30 in my verbal. And now I wanted to have my raw score as atleast 40....... :wink: Desire to achieve higher can never stop I guess)

When I read couple of debriefs, stating that verbal is not easy to gain the points, I used to believe it. Simple reason - No interest in Verbal at all. No interest ==> No improvement. But now when I am showing interest, I really am enjoying my preparation with verbal. Isn't it funny. Some(such as Bipolarbear) suggested that when ever we need to go thru the boring topic, just feel for ourself and add a "WOW factor"......"Wow what an interesting topic" and automatically, the topic doesn't sound that boring. It may sound funny but it is exactly what I feel. Pardon me if this makes you think that I crazy / stupid. :)

My opinion is that GMAT Exam is all about mind game - GMAT Preparation is also sort of mind game(If you think you are weak in a a topic, then you can never be strong in that topic......) Got to go back to my CR reading.........Wow going to start my preparation on Strengthen and Assumptions chapters. :wink:
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