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Thanks Bipolarbear. But the progress is really not so convincing because I read that MGMAT has a deviation of +/- 50 points. That still takes me to just the border of 700. This being my second attempt, I am definitely targettting for more than avg for most of the Elite schools - that means to say I am targetting around 720 - 750 +.

Currently my SC is on par. (Atleast 80%) but this is not helping me to pull my verbal score because my CR and RC are the major drawbacks. For this week I am planning to concentrate on CR OG and little bit of RC. Depending on my GMATPrep that I am planning to take this week end, I will decide on my D-Day . So sort of bit nervous to see the GMATPrep result at the same time, anxiuos to find where I stand in the match. :-)

I am able to do good on SC from MGMAT CAT exams because the concepts tested in SC questions are more similar to what they said in MGMAT SC book.(Probably this might be one of the reasons why my SC is almost 93% in my last CAT exam) I am not sure how far this will help me w.r.t real GMAT. I feel MGMAT CAT CR questions are bit different from OG questions. Atleast OG questions,you can bring down the choices to 2 but I feel MGMAT CR questions are bit tough. So crossing my fingers for GMATPrep. RC- I still have no comments since there is no real preparation yet.
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OK.....This weekend is going to be a first step towards the D - Day - Deciding day. I am planning to take my First GMATPrep. If the score is above 700, then my D-Day will be Oct 13th. If the score is not 700+, then date will most likely be in Nov.

Sort of feeling nervous already....... :( Nevermind......It is now or never sort of the position. So I will have to go with it.

Still no good practice on Quant. But I am confident on my Quant skills. Hope they will not let me down. SC is ok. But CR and RC are still far from reachable. One thing I learnt from my last couple of days - Have the basics right and practice more. But I still question, why people refer to practising LSAT / GRE RC & CR passages. They are way too much for GMAT prep level and without knowing basics what is the point in practicing the tougher ones. So I gave up doing any of the RC and CR passages from LSAT execrcises.(Ofcourse I didn't even think of doing any)

For the next two days - plan is to revise my MGMAT CAT Verbal portion, atleast 50 - 75 questions each from CR and RC from OG 12. Until I pull my hit rate to a little higher rate, I cannot be in the upper 30's in my verbal. Hope this plan will work out positive. :)
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Re: Warmup before second Attempt From a 590 to ??? [#permalink] New post 17 Sep 2009, 15:33
For the verbal section, I find that reading non-GMAT books helps a lot. As you read more and more, you'll have a better idea of which types of sentence structures are sound (i.e. not awkward), and you'll also be more comfortable reading long passages without losing sight of the main point. The verbal section will become quite intuitive! When you have trouble understanding a certain chapter, read a summary online (this is for novels btw), then reread the chapter. It's time consuming but the verbal section IS weighted quite heavily and literature's always fun (you can read before bed, while commuting, etc). You'll learn a lot without feeling as though you're studying for the GMAT :)

I've personally had a lot of trouble with math (I majored in literature and hadn't touched math since high school!) but the OG Quant book has been invaluable; the review sections in this book alone have been extremely helpful (and I haven't felt comfortable with math since 8th grade)!
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Today I was planning to take my GMAT Prep 1 and based on the result, decide on my D-Day. But somehow I wanted to postpone it by one more day. I have never practiced any of the Quant questions in almost 5 months other than the 3 MGMAT Cat tests. And I didn't even review my mistakes nor referreshed my basics. I definitely don't want to take a GMAT Prep with my unfinished preparation work and then shatter my confidence level, which is one of the crucial factors in GMAT success. So decided I will refresh my basics(notes that I already prepared during my first attempt) and do some OG questions - to have a feel of quant. Most likely I will be taking the GMAT Prep tomorrow.

I completed my OG 12 PS questions - 230 questions - and I can say there are only handful of them that are either tricky or hard. Rest all are less than 700 level. So if anyone is targetting for 49+ in quant, then we need to look for other sources. (Still my hit rate is only 86 % on PS. I am sure I might have made some silly mistakes - which are correctable. I will go thru all the wroung ans once I complete DS questions (170 in total) as well.)
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OK....I was bit reluctant to take GMAT Prep exam this weekend. But I don't want to make the same mistake that I made during my first attempt preparation. so I finally made up my mind and took GMATPrep 1. The score is not so convincing. Here is my result -

Total - 690, 49 (Q - 88%) and 34(V - 72%)

PS - 13 correct & 6 wrong (68%)
DS - 13 correct & 4 wrong (76%)

SC - 12 correct & 5 wrong (70%)
CR - 7 correct & 4 wrong (63%)
RC - 9 correct & 4 wrong (69%)


Positives of the exam -

1.I am good with my timing. I have noted couple of checkpoints that states at the end of set of questions,what is the time that I should be left with. It is working perfect.
2. Happy with the Quant result. Even with very little practice, my score is competitive and I am still in the race. But I hope to have a 50.
3. From my last GMATPrep attempt and this GMATPrep attempt, my verbal score has increased from 23 to 34(This is quite a significant improvement). But I still wanted to have my verbal score to be atleast in upper 30's.
4. I am bit surprised with my CR and RC result in this exam. (Especially RC) Even though not much of the preparation has happened in these two areas,the result is quite encouraging. One thing that I learned is that - If we understand RC passage clearly, it is very easy to answer RC questions. If the passage is not clear, then we cannot ans RC questions with confidence. CR is much better than MGMATPrep.But there is still lot of scope for improvement.

Negative of the exam -

1.Very disappointed with my SC - infact there were couple of them which were repeats from OG 12. Inspite of that,my SC hit rate is ONLY 70%. If my hit rate is atleast 80% +, then there are good chances that I am above 700 limit. :cry:
2. Didn't get time to practice any of the CR /RC questions from OG nor did I spend any time in reviewing any of the mistakes that I have done from the past tests.

Now should I go for Oct 13 as my D-Day......I don't know? Reason - I didn't meet my min target ie 700 and also there were couple of repeats from both Quant and Verbal. So is my score of 690 really what I deserve or is it more than what I can score? So for now I am going to defer my decision by one more week.

In the forums I read that when you uninstall and reinstall GMATPrep, most likely the questions will be new. But I doubt it. Or is it that OG 12 contains lots of GMATPrep because of which I encountered couple of known questions?

Anyhow tough going.........For now the result is much closure to the expected one. Let me see how will my second GMATPrep1 going to be.
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Re: Warmup before second Attempt From a 590 to ??? [#permalink] New post 21 Sep 2009, 22:50
Good Showing!

Well, 700 is just a mark you have set for yourself in the gmat prep. Lets say, you had a target of 680, i m sure you would be pleased!

2 Questions here and there would have swung it either side of 700.

I would say, go for it. GMAT is a test where one can never feel a 100% prepared. After putting in your best efforts, one just has to take the leap of faith and give it their best shot.

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OK....I was bit reluctant to take GMAT Prep exam this weekend. But I don't want to make the same mistake that I made during my first attempt preparation. so I finally made up my mind and took GMATPrep 1. The score is not so convincing. Here is my result -

Total - 690, 49 (Q - 88%) and 34(V - 72%)

PS - 13 correct & 6 wrong (68%)
DS - 13 correct & 4 wrong (76%)

SC - 12 correct & 5 wrong (70%)
CR - 7 correct & 4 wrong (63%)
RC - 9 correct & 4 wrong (69%)


Positives of the exam -

1.I am good with my timing. I have noted couple of checkpoints that states at the end of set of questions,what is the time that I should be left with. It is working perfect.
2. Happy with the Quant result. Even with very little practice, my score is competitive and I am still in the race. But I hope to have a 50.
3. From my last GMATPrep attempt and this GMATPrep attempt, my verbal score has increased from 23 to 34(This is quite a significant improvement). But I still wanted to have my verbal score to be atleast in upper 30's.
4. I am bit surprised with my CR and RC result in this exam. (Especially RC) Even though not much of the preparation has happened in these two areas,the result is quite encouraging. One thing that I learned is that - If we understand RC passage clearly, it is very easy to answer RC questions. If the passage is not clear, then we cannot ans RC questions with confidence. CR is much better than MGMATPrep.But there is still lot of scope for improvement.

Negative of the exam -

1.Very disappointed with my SC - infact there were couple of them which were repeats from OG 12. Inspite of that,my SC hit rate is ONLY 70%. If my hit rate is atleast 80% +, then there are good chances that I am above 700 limit. :cry:
2. Didn't get time to practice any of the CR /RC questions from OG nor did I spend any time in reviewing any of the mistakes that I have done from the past tests.

Now should I go for Oct 13 as my D-Day......I don't know? Reason - I didn't meet my min target ie 700 and also there were couple of repeats from both Quant and Verbal. So is my score of 690 really what I deserve or is it more than what I can score? So for now I am going to defer my decision by one more week.

In the forums I read that when you uninstall and reinstall GMATPrep, most likely the questions will be new. But I doubt it. Or is it that OG 12 contains lots of GMATPrep because of which I encountered couple of known questions?

Anyhow tough going.........For now the result is much closure to the expected one. Let me see how will my second GMATPrep1 going to be.

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Today I have taken GMATPrep 1 again on a different machine......Isn't it an intelligent thought expecting to see a new set of questions :) (On my earlier machine, even though I uninstalled and installed the GMATPrep, I think there were quite a significant number of repeats from OG 12 or from my previous GMAT Prep Attempt). Luckily, this time around, I have seen many new SC and CR questions different from what I have attempted. Similarly quant also posed many different questions except for couple of them which fall under hard bin. So in a way I am happy with this attempt(GMAT Prep).

Guess what......I have scored 730 - Q(49) and V(40)......Hurry my verbal is finally in 40's. :banana I definitely cannot expect more than this. Now I am pretty much decided on my D-Day - Deciding day. Oct13th,2009. :boxer

Here is the break down -

Total - 730, Q - 49 and V - 40

PS - 15 correct & 4 wrong (79%)
DS - 14 correct & 4 wrong (78%)

SC - 14 correct & 3 wrong (82%)
CR - 8 correct & 3 wrong (72%)
RC - 12 correct & 1 wrong (92%)

I really hope to see this score in my real GMAT. I would say my RC result is definitely exaggerated because all the 4 RC are repeats and this time around, I was able to under the passage very clearly. Now I have confidence I can win the real rematch. Let me refine my skills further. Next couple of day, I am going to take CAT exams probably every alternate day since I am left with 3 more MGMAT CATs, GMATClub tests and GMATPrep2. (Lot of CAT's pending)

:btw This score is really inspiring me a lot to face the GMAT. Yeppie.......
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Re: Warmup before second Attempt From a 590 to ??? [#permalink] New post 22 Sep 2009, 22:07
Great score....so all set for the re-match! :good .

Ur SC skills have come a long way!
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Awesome and inspiring ! Time to capitalize now ! :)
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Wow....what a relief......Finally today I booked my date for the rematch. It is 10-12-09 @ 11.00. Yesterday's score really boosted my confidence that made me book the date. :) Now the real count down begins.

Thank you Snipertrader & Economist for the encouraging words. Yes my SC skills improved a lot. Thanks to MGMAT SC,OG 12, and last but not the least, GMATClub Forums.
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Re: Warmup before second Attempt From a 590 to ??? [#permalink] New post 23 Sep 2009, 13:11
nice work. I am happy for you.
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Re: Warmup before second Attempt From a 590 to ??? [#permalink] New post 24 Sep 2009, 05:50
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Finally today I booked my date for the rematch. It is 10-12-09 @ 11.00.

Is it mm-dd-yy OR dd-mm-yy ? :)
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Ha ha ha.....Good Questions Economist. For now the date format is MM-DD-YY.
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Re: Warmup before second Attempt From a 590 to ??? [#permalink] New post 24 Sep 2009, 15:53
Awesome score! At this point you should go over sterny's gmatprep document if you haven't already. i thought that helped tremendously since they are all gmatprep questions (make sure you've completed the tests first).

The last stretch is the most stressful and boring but it's definitely looking like it'll be worth it for you!
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Re: Warmup before second Attempt From a 590 to ??? [#permalink] New post 24 Sep 2009, 18:58
Thanks Bipolarbear.......Yep now the real count down began. But I still wanted to do atleast all the questions for CR and RC from OG 12 to get good amount of practice. I haven't done any for the CR & RC in my previous attempt preparation and obviously that costed me a lot. And I don't want to repeat the same mistake this time(This is going to be my final attempt).

Here is the plan that I set for myself for the next couple of days -
1. Take at least one CAT exam - (MGMAT CATS or repeat GMATPrep1 till Oct 3rd) every 3 days.
2. Go thru the mistakes that I made in these CATs- This I will keep myself on track for the sections that I feel comfortable (ie PS, DS and SC).
3. Practice couple of OG questions from CR and RC(In fact I have OG 10,11,12,Review books with me. So this is more than enough for good Verbal exercises.)
4. Take GMATPrep 2 on Oct 3 to verify where I stand towards the end. And the rest of the days from Oct 3rd will be to go over the mistakes
5. Glance thru GMATPrep SC questions(I believe one of the GC forum members compiled the questions).
6. As time permits, take GMATClub tests(Currently I am pretty much freezed at Quant score 49 and these tests hope will improve it by atleast one more point. Isn't it too much to expect. :-D )

From this preparation, I feel, we don't really need to go beyond OG 10,11,12, and OG Quant and Verbal review books for the practice questions. They are lot more than enough. In addition the ONLY two books that I recommend will be MGMAT SC and PowerScore CR Bible for those who are weak in Verbal.

18 days to go.............
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Looks like a good plan .How is it going now?

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Hum......Only 13 days to go.......Time is short. Last couple of days didn't go as per the plan. A very unexpected distraction from my plan but that is fine. I still have 13 more days to go. :-)

Started off with CR and RC passages in OG12. Planning to take GMATPrep2 on 3rd. And probably one more round of GMATPrep 2 again on 7th at the max. After that no more CAT exams. I don't want to shatter / fake my confidence level just before the real GMAT. Last week, I think I will be dedicating to doing around 20 questions each from each of the 5 sections and review my mistakes. This way, I can maintain my pace in all the 5 sections.

BTW, do any of you feel that doing OG12 before GMATPrep may boost your GMATPrep scores more than what should have been? I somehow feel so. :(
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Hum......Only 13 days to go.......Time is short. Last couple of days didn't go as per the plan. A very unexpected distraction from my plan but that is fine. I still have 13 more days to go. :-)

Started off with CR and RC passages in OG12. Planning to take GMATPrep2 on 3rd. And probably one more round of GMATPrep 2 again on 7th at the max. After that no more CAT exams. I don't want to shatter / fake my confidence level just before the real GMAT. Last week, I think I will be dedicating to doing around 20 questions each from each of the 5 sections and review my mistakes. This way, I can maintain my pace in all the 5 sections.

BTW, do any of you feel that doing OG12 before GMATPrep may boost your GMATPrep scores more than what should have been? I somehow feel so. :(



Going through OG before GMAT and GMAT Prep is likely to set you in harmony with the GMAT logic, question types, and terminology (something many third party practice tests do not have), so yes, but GMAT Prep is linked to GMAT, so increase in GMAT prep = increase in GMAT = GOOD.

There are no overlapping questions between GMATPrep and OG 12.
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increase in GMAT prep = increase in GMAT = GOOD


Thanks BB for responding. And I really hope what you said is true.

Unfortunately, I have seen couple of OG verbal questions that are in both GMATPrep and OG12. Cannot comment on Quant since I didn't do any Quant questions from OG12. So just wanted to make sure I am not acting (OVER)confident and that too just before couple of days from my final day. :)
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Re: Warmup before second Attempt From a 590 to ??? [#permalink] New post 29 Sep 2009, 06:11
I would suggest do not skip OG12 for quant .Go ahead review your error log from OG and OG quant.If you do this a week before D-day It will make you more comfortable with real Gmat .Good luck.
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