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What is the perimeter of the isoceles right triangle ABC S1 [#permalink]  12 Jul 2011, 09:46
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What is the perimeter of the isoceles right triangle ABC

S1 AB = 9

S2 BC = 4
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Re: Isoceles triangle [#permalink]  12 Jul 2011, 10:56
The answer is C considering AB = AC.

However, when we say its an isosceles triange ABC, does the naming convetion tell us that A is the largest angle? So that AB = AC?

So if my largest angle is B, should I call it isosceles triange BAC?

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Re: Isoceles triangle [#permalink]  12 Jul 2011, 16:51
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Here we do not know which is the base angle so 2 possibilites are

9 9 4

or

4 4 9

but

4 4 9 is not a possible triangle as based on triangle side concept so 9 9 4 is valid or 23 is the perimeter
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Re: Isoceles triangle [#permalink]  12 Jul 2011, 22:05
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piyatiwari wrote:
The answer is C considering AB = AC.

However, when we say its an isosceles triange ABC, does the naming convetion tell us that A is the largest angle? So that AB = AC?

So if my largest angle is B, should I call it isosceles triange BAC?

no there is no assumption here.
trap in the question is (remember) that you cannot have a triangle with side 9, 4 ,4.
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Re: Isoceles triangle [#permalink]  15 Jul 2011, 01:32
i dont understand why the answer is C since we dont know which sides are equal
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Re: Isoceles triangle [#permalink]  15 Jul 2011, 09:54
diebeatsthegmat wrote:
i dont understand why the answer is C since we dont know which sides are equal

you dont need that actually. you have 2 sides measures - 9, 4 and you know that its an isosceles triangle.
so possibility 1 - 3rd side is 9
or
possibility 2 - 3rd side is 4.

now check... that if 3rd side is 4.. then triangle is 9,4, 4
as per the properties of any triangle sum of 2 sides is greater than 3rd side, here 4 + 4 is not gr than 9.. so this construction is not possible.

so only possibility, is possibility 1.
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Re: Isoceles triangle [#permalink]  15 Jul 2011, 11:00
Well, I chose E, but I see your explanation and agree with C. However, the question mentions "isosceles RIGHT triangle", which means that one angle is 90 degrees. If the equal sides are both 9, then the hypotenuse must be longer. But with sides 9 9 4, it's obviously not a right triangle. So the word "right" must be removed from the question to have C as the correct answer.
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Re: Isoceles triangle [#permalink]  16 Jul 2011, 08:09
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Well, I chose E, but I see your explanation and agree with C. However, the question mentions "isosceles RIGHT triangle", which means that one angle is 90 degrees. If the equal sides are both 9, then the hypotenuse must be longer. But with sides 9 9 4, it's obviously not a right triangle. So the word "right" must be removed from the question to have C as the correct answer.

Either of the options is insufficient alone, however taking both together is disapproving question stem itself. However assuming that a typo, Option 'C' is the correct one.
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Re: Isoceles triangle [#permalink]  16 Jul 2011, 10:15
rxs0005 wrote:
What is the perimeter of the isoceles right triangle ABC

S1 AB = 9

S2 BC = 4

In case the triangle is right angled isosceles triangle the OA should be E.
Because clearly S1 and S2 are not sufficient individually

So combining S1 and S2 we get 2 values i.e. Sides with 4,4,9 which is NOT possible
and the second is 4,9,9 which is not right angled. If we would have had the knowledge which angle is right angled. Then it could be solved.
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Re: Isoceles triangle [#permalink]  16 Jul 2011, 10:26
Sudhanshuacharya wrote:
rxs0005 wrote:
What is the perimeter of the isoceles right triangle ABC

S1 AB = 9

S2 BC = 4

In case the triangle is right angled isosceles triangle the OA should be E.
Because clearly S1 and S2 are not sufficient individually

So combining S1 and S2 we get 2 values i.e. Sides with 4,4,9 which is NOT possible
and the second is 4,9,9 which is not right angled. If we would have had the knowledge which angle is right angled. Then it could be solved.

In case the isosceles triangle is right-angled, the question would be WRONG. However, the question is correct and the answer is "C". Also, we can infer from the given statements that the triangle is not an isosceles right triangle.
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Re: Isoceles triangle [#permalink]  16 Jul 2011, 11:42
fluke wrote:
Sudhanshuacharya wrote:
rxs0005 wrote:
What is the perimeter of the isoceles right triangle ABC

S1 AB = 9

S2 BC = 4

In case the triangle is right angled isosceles triangle the OA should be E.
Because clearly S1 and S2 are not sufficient individually

So combining S1 and S2 we get 2 values i.e. Sides with 4,4,9 which is NOT possible
and the second is 4,9,9 which is not right angled. If we would have had the knowledge which angle is right angled. Then it could be solved.

In case the isosceles triangle is right-angled, the question would be WRONG. However, the question is correct and the answer is "C". Also, we can infer from the given statements that the triangle is not an isosceles right triangle.

I don't think the question will be wrong if the triangle is right angled isosceles triangle. We can have a real number as the 3rd side. If one of the statement had mentioned that the triangle is right angled at B. then AC could be calculated
and hence the perimeter
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