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# What makes Test Day So Dammn Hard - Sound off on Errors-

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15 Jul 2003, 07:39
Legislation in the Canadian province of Ontario requires of both public and private employers ( that pay be the same for jobs historically held by women as for jobs requiring comparable skill that are ) usually held by men.

A) the same brackets

B) that pay for jobs historically held by women should be the same as for a job requiring comparable skills

C) to pay the same in jobs historically held by women as in jobs of comparable skill that are

D) to pay the same regardless of whether a job was historically held by women or is one demanding comparable skills

E) to pay as much for jobs historically held by women as for a job demanding comparable skills
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15 Jul 2003, 17:00
(A) sounds like it
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15 Jul 2003, 19:13
C seems best for me
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15 Jul 2003, 21:00
I would choose A... although "require TO" is an idiom...
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15 Jul 2003, 21:21
but the key here is "requires of" is not in the underlined portion, so you have to eliminate c,d,e. b is just babble.
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17 Jul 2003, 00:40
JP wrote:
but the key here is "requires of" is not in the underlined portion, so you have to eliminate c,d,e. b is just babble.

I agree that (c), (d), and (e) are wrong because they have "requires of ... to" and should use one or the other.

one specific reason why (b) is wrong is that you cannot "require" that someone "should be/do" something -- it is redundant. You "require" that someone "be/do" something. (If it is required, then they have to do it, whether the moral question of whether they should do it not is resolved <grin>).
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17 Jul 2003, 01:05
the above is a classic example of so-called subjunctive mood...

A requires that B do (not does) C
It is imperative that X be Y
P suggests that Q do R and that N do M
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17 Jul 2003, 01:41
stolyar wrote:
the above is a classic example of so-called subjunctive mood...

A requires that B do (not does) C
It is imperative that X be Y
P suggests that Q do R and that N do M

You're right. However, In English, the subjunctive mood is almost exclusively reserved for expressions contrary to fact, or for wishes, suppositions and doubts. I would consider this usage the "classic" use of the subjuctive. Examples:

Quote:
If I were him, I'd be a millionaire by not.
I wish my father were still alive.
If Bubba were playing today, we would kick their asses.
If Gore were elected President, we would be worse off.

"That" clauses, the type that you have identified, are much rarer, and unlikely to be tested as such on the GMAT.

Quote:
We demand that they be silenced.
I demand that he be executed.
The king requires that his subjects be loyal.
I only ask that she be tarred and feathered before a large public crowd.

At the end of the day, I don't like to teach fancy words like "subjuctive" and "perfect tenses" (hell, what is so perfect about them). It makes grammar too "foreign".

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17 Jul 2003, 01:56
Are my sentences correct?

(1) The new boss of our company suggests that the trading department sell as more as it can and that the accounting department not be cut.

(2) We would never won the game were it not for him.

(3) John would never have been laid off had it not been for Jack.
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17 Jul 2003, 02:15
sell as much as...

never have won...
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17 Jul 2003, 02:30
The rest is OK, no?
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17 Jul 2003, 18:24
What did you score on Verbal, didn't it feel like a Marathon.
I wish the RC's wouldn't come at the end; actually it gives balance for the test. It feels like your alternating between logic and grammar;

Back and forth... back and forth. ..

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